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BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 04:38 AM
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BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 04:38 AM
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BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 04:39 AM
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BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 04:40 AM
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BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 04:42 AM
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alphakenny1
01-08-2006, 04:46 AM
wow, nice. did you take those pictures? if so, did you get to play with the cd7000. the eclipse units pretty much look the same as of the 05 line.

jer_stud56
01-08-2006, 04:49 AM
DAMNNNNNNN the P880PRS pioneer looks ****ing kick assssssss. (drunk = more swear words) But yeah I'm definatly picking up one of the new top end pioneers this year.

faulkton
01-08-2006, 04:51 AM
yeah the lower end eclipse dont look much dif. Are those the actual product names? The cd7000 being the highest? I dont know what i tihnk about the new look of the higher end lines..have to see one in person and see how they work.

BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 05:07 AM
Yep, I took those pics. I only attended one day (Friday) but had to tour ALL the exhibits, not just auto aftermarket. By the end of the 8hr bussle, my feet were dying.

Actually the Eclipse overhauled their upper line. The CD7000 (I believe Manny/MaxSpd alluded to this unit in his other thread) took over the 8455 spot with a different look using OEL display and a huge rotary mode switch. Interestingly Eclipse is abandoning the 8v pre-out in favor of 5v; the rep noted that Eclipse Japan decided that 8v was just clipping alot of the amps out in the market, but I'm just not buying that. The CD7000 now has their new "Twin Security System" which contains both ESN and a detachable front panel.

The CD5000 is the ONLY 8v unit left and is basically the 8445 unit with now protruding knobs vs. flushed knobs in 2005. All the other single DIN CD units are pretty much 2005 models renamed; all with 5v and ESN.

A lot of emphasis was placed on their multi-media DIN and Double DIN units, not just Eclipse but also with all other mfgs. I'm not so much into video so I didn't pay too much attention.

I love Eclipse's performance but their styling has been all over the place in recent years; the CD7000 is another styling departure. Tactile, functional, odd, and that rotary knob is huge.

I have the Eclipse 2006 Catalog but am just too pooped to scan anything right now.

orangeblast
01-08-2006, 05:08 AM
wow....hrm........... I really still do in my heart want a DRZ9225 HU....but I know the Eclipse will allow for better control in an active setup....

those Eclipses look fugly...I hate that crap all glowy and bright....bah!! but that DRZ mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm classy..


EDIT: Well...actually that CD7000 doesn't look to bad....I like that it has a big display and nice dark greyish black surround...and that funky looking adjuster thing look. O.K. I would be sold once I find out what it can do and also if it can change to Amber color to match my interior.

mmmmmmmmm.....

BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 05:11 AM
DAMNNNNNNN the P880PRS pioneer looks kick assssssss...

I agree. By far the best looking unit (not counting the Clarion DRZ, which has been on the market for 2yrs now). Too bad I wasn't able to have time to play with it but it looked sweet. If it can give Eclipse a run for their money, then I might bite...

faulkton
01-08-2006, 05:14 AM
Yep, I took those pics. I only attended one day (Friday) but had to tour ALL the exhibits, not just auto aftermarket. By the end of the 8hr bussle, my feet were dying.

Actually the Eclipse overhauled their upper line. The CD7000 (I believe Manny/MaxSpd alluded to this unit in his other thread) took over the 8455 spot with a different look using OEL display and a huge rotary mode switch. Interestingly Eclipse is abandoning the 8v pre-out in favor of 5v; the rep noted that Eclipse Japan decided that 8v was just clipping alot of the amps out in the market, but I'm just not buying that. The CD7000 now has their new "Twin Security System" which contains both ESN and a detachable front panel.

The CD5000 is the ONLY 8v unit left and is basically the 8445 unit with now protruding knobs vs. flushed knobs in 2005. All the other single DIN CD units are pretty much 2005 models renamed; all with 5v and ESN.

A lot of emphasis was placed on their multi-media DIN and Double DIN units, not just Eclipse but also with all other mfgs. I'm not so much into video so I didn't pay too much attention.

I love Eclipse's performance but their styling has been all over the place in recent years; the CD7000 is another styling departure. Tactile, functional, odd, and that rotary knob is huge.

I have the Eclipse 2006 Catalog but am just too pooped to scan anything right now.

That ***** about the 8volt ;(

DiamondFanatic
01-08-2006, 05:14 AM
DAMNNNNNNN the P880PRS pioneer looks ****ing kick assssssss. (drunk = more swear words) But yeah I'm definatly picking up one of the new top end pioneers this year.
I agree... can't wait to play with one of those. That deck, the DRZ9255 or possibly one of the new alpines will be in my car in the very near future...

revrider1
01-08-2006, 05:15 AM
The Pioneer is f****n sweet. I am for sure going to get one of those when they come out.

BodegaBay
01-08-2006, 05:31 AM
It's very interesting to see Alpine marketing their head units for the market. Clearly the days of affordable high end headunits in the Alpine line is gone. The 9857 is just a shadow of what the 9853 once was. It's now only 2v with not that great of features. Alpine is drawing the roadmap to three distinct markets:

High End: F1 Status
Mid-Fi: 9857 and 9856
MultiMedia: all their touchscreens and DVD DIN units

Maybe it's my imagination but it seemed this year, Alpine, Eclipse, Clarion, etc. are all cutting features that were once std. for their affordable flagship models and favoring either ultra high end or multi-media DVD/LCD with outboard processing.

alphakenny1
01-08-2006, 05:34 AM
wow im wondering what is the retail on the cd7000....

faulkton
01-08-2006, 05:37 AM
$2

DiamondFanatic
01-08-2006, 05:39 AM
Alpine loves their 5.1 and I think that they are also very interested in trying to do things before other manufacturers, even if that means taking a gamble. Perhaps they got cocky because of the KCA-420i success a full year before it was answered by other companies, but I think that they will have some problems with this years line. The 9861 doesn't have optical out (at least from the specs on Alpines website) so it isn't the ideal unit to use a PXA-H701 with. Yet the 9860 does... go figure on that one...
Their new line will without a question be a hard sell on the younger demographic

takeabao
01-08-2006, 06:36 AM
Alpine loves their 5.1 and I think that they are also very interested in trying to do things before other manufacturers, even if that means taking a gamble. Perhaps they got cocky because of the KCA-420i success a full year before it was answered by other companies, but I think that they will have some problems with this years line. The 9861 doesn't have optical out (at least from the specs on Alpines website) so it isn't the ideal unit to use a PXA-H701 with. Yet the 9860 does... go figure on that one...
Their new line will without a question be a hard sell on the younger demographic
Actually, upon further inspection, the 9861 does have optical out and it also reads DVD-Audio discs as well (something that unfortunately, my 9860 does NOT).

Just terrible web-design by the folks down in Irvine, CA (Alpine HQ).


If you ask me, the CD7000 doesn't look that impressive -- I personally seem to think it's a very ugly HU -- but I'm certainly not discounting its features. 3.5Max6Spd really hyped it up in the other thread and I was hoping for something a little better in outward appearance to match with the seemingly impressive features-list. Lastly, I'd really hate to see the price-tag... :greedy:

New Pioneer Premier looks very good -- they finally put the "PRS" back into Premier (probably only a few folks know what I mean by this). I was going to get my girl the 860MP, but so long as the 880PRS has a dolphin screensaver (along with 24-bit DACs, 3-way xover, etc. etc.) it looks like I'll be putin' that in her car.

Overall,

Alpine > Eclipse > Pioneer > Clarion in my books as far as innovation and design go in the head unit department at CES this year.

6spdcoupe
01-08-2006, 07:31 AM
wow im wondering what is the retail on the cd7000....


Should be about $599

mikescanlon
01-08-2006, 07:54 AM
i dont see alpine having a place in the market with thier headunits if they keep up the same progression for the next 5-10 years.

IoNMan1
01-08-2006, 11:08 AM
i dont see alpine having a place in the market with thier headunits if they keep up the same progression for the next 5-10 years.

so mike, what are some brand you are in favor off?

chadillac3
01-08-2006, 11:17 AM
i dont see alpine having a place in the market with thier headunits if they keep up the same progression for the next 5-10 years.


Interesting...since MAP on the 9857 is only $350, which will probably be ****** w/ iPod and have the Biolite display. 95% of the consumers out there don't need Bass Engine Pro; hell, I bet most on the forums who have the 9835/55 don't even use it fully. I have a feeling they're going to be putting a LOT of pressure on the other manus.

alphakenny1
01-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Actually, upon further inspection, the 9861 does have optical out and it also reads DVD-Audio discs as well (something that unfortunately, my 9860 does NOT).

Just terrible web-design by the folks down in Irvine, CA (Alpine HQ).


If you ask me, the CD7000 doesn't look that impressive -- I personally seem to think it's a very ugly HU -- but I'm certainly not discounting its features. 3.5Max6Spd really hyped it up in the other thread and I was hoping for something a little better in outward appearance to match with the seemingly impressive features-list. Lastly, I'd really hate to see the price-tag... :greedy:

New Pioneer Premier looks very good -- they finally put the "PRS" back into Premier (probably only a few folks know what I mean by this). I was going to get my girl the 860MP, but so long as the 880PRS has a dolphin screensaver (along with 24-bit DACs, 3-way xover, etc. etc.) it looks like I'll be putin' that in her car.

Overall,

Alpine > Eclipse > Pioneer > Clarion in my books as far as innovation and design go in the head unit department at CES this year.


i must agree here. the cd7000 looks fugly. I've always loved the way alpine HUs looked. Best design imo.

but if 6spd says that the retail is $599, I might have myself a new HU. wow, for the features that it presents isn't that a little cheap...

bri487
01-08-2006, 02:51 PM
i like the looks of the new alpines, going to for sure have to get one, those new pioneers look nice as well, just not a pioneer guy.

Slammed01
01-08-2006, 04:14 PM
So I guess the Alpine IVA-D310 is goin' to continue for 2006 and Alpine isnt gunna replace it? Is the 310 Bluetooth Capable?

3.5Max6spd
01-08-2006, 05:29 PM
That cd7000 looks alot better than i expected, wopuld've loved to see better pics of the OEL display....not that appearance is a factor for me anyhow, its about the performance and audio needs...

Is it true Alpine ditched T/A and Bass engine Pro is most of their single DIN's?

chadillac3
01-08-2006, 05:41 PM
That cd7000 looks alot better than i expected, wopuld've loved to see better pics of the OEL display....not that appearance is a factor for me anyhow, its about the performance and audio needs...

Is it true Alpine ditched T/A and Bass engine Pro is most of their single DIN's?

Yep, and prices are $100 lower now for the equivalent decks. From talking to the local dealer, most people don't have any need for the processing features...those who do will need to pony up for the H701. Personally, there isn't a single DIN HU out there that will do everything I'd want...the closest are the Eclipse units, but I'd need a sub EQ and more media capability to consider 'em.

Maybe the CD7000 will be the one...I'm certainly not close minded enough to say that I'd never use an Eclipse again. But if they're similar to the 8454 I used, I'll pass.

3.5Max6spd
01-08-2006, 05:54 PM
Yep, and prices are $100 lower now for the equivalent decks. From talking to the local dealer, most people don't have any need for the processing features...those who do will need to pony up for the H701. Personally, there isn't a single DIN HU out there that will do everything I'd want...the closest are the Eclipse units, but I'd need a sub EQ and more media capability to consider 'em.

Maybe the CD7000 will be the one...I'm certainly not close minded enough to say that I'd never use an Eclipse again. But if they're similar to the 8454 I used, I'll pass.

its supposed to have 1 band peq for the sub, and 5 band for each pair of front chs

I'm not sold on it either, i'd have yet to play with it in person myself to see if the solution for me. Yes an Alpine deck and processor combo is the easy way out these days, but the less shyt i have in my car the better, i'm out of real estate as it is....my wife goes...' everywhere i look theres an amp or some contraption...'
Besides the concept of keeping the signal conversion simple appeals to me and the more I look at this unit I feel they did a good job keping the lines of the unit clean, buttons simple and not 'out there' like the other models and my current 8455..

bri487
01-08-2006, 06:04 PM
That cd7000 looks alot better than i expected, wopuld've loved to see better pics of the OEL display....not that appearance is a factor for me anyhow, its about the performance and audio needs...

Is it true Alpine ditched T/A and Bass engine Pro is most of their single DIN's?

i can do without the bass engine, but for average installs, the TA is a must. i have all the internal processing defeated in my H/u's anyway.

orangeblast
01-08-2006, 07:13 PM
so just what does the CD7000 features suppose to offer?

cuse now it going to be either the CD7000 for my active setup or the DRZ9255...it all depends on what the CD7000 can do for me.

alphakenny1
01-08-2006, 07:43 PM
3.5 says that it will support a 4 way setup with a 5 band parametric dedicated to the midbass, midrange and highs each. not sure on xover slopes though.

btw orange, what were/are decisions on components and amp?

orangeblast
01-08-2006, 07:59 PM
Components: Seas Lotus References
Amp: Arc Audio XXK 4150
HU = Either CD7000 or DRZ9255 (i'm just so **** stuck on this part)

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for subs...just my old 12s
Some old competition DEI DVC SQ 12s (2 of them) in a 1.15 sealed box
powered by my DEI 1100D Mono Amp...great match up.. each sub can take 550RMS = total of 1100 for both subs. Running amp in parrallel @ 1 ohm and such. Perfect match.

I'll post some pics becuase I don't remember what subs I have but I remember them being some what legendary...being capable of amazing things...so people said.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/716/img18119st.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3514/img18108tc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

alphakenny1
01-09-2006, 03:00 AM
^ I know you are huge on looks but if you get either of those HUs you wouldn't be fully utilizing their capabilities unless of course you go with a 3 way active frontstage then i'd get the cd7000 especially with a dedicated eq to the midbass, midrange and highs. if 6spdcoupe is correct in his assessment of the retail price on the cd7000 ($599 he said) then the cd7000 is a freaking steal. with all of those features that is a really good price. i think i said this earlier and i dunno if you agreed or not but if you want a simpler look, look at the 8454. i found a pic, http://www.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?p=931924. the pic is at the bottom of the page.

adam71
01-09-2006, 03:43 AM
^ I know you are huge on looks but if you get either of those HUs you wouldn't be fully utilizing their capabilities unless of course you go with a 3 way active frontstage then i'd get the cd7000 especially with a dedicated eq to the midbass, midrange and highs. if 6spdcoupe is correct in his assessment of the retail price on the cd7000 ($599 he said) then the cd7000 is a freaking steal. with all of those features that is a really good price. i think i said this earlier and i dunno if you agreed or not but if you want a simpler look, look at the 8454. i found a pic, http://www.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?p=931924. the pic is at the bottom of the page.



**** that 8454 is one **** motha fucka.

3.5Max6spd
01-09-2006, 08:51 AM
found a better pic..
http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/4361b81bz93f85071/bcca/__sr_/6951.jpg?phoNnwDBNv9LNRgS

UndercoverPunk
01-09-2006, 09:09 AM
So is this that uber HU? The 4 way with all the bells and whistles?

alphakenny1
01-09-2006, 03:06 PM
found a better pic..
http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/4361b81bz93f85071/bcca/__sr_/6951.jpg?phoNnwDBNv9LNRgS

link doesn't work for me.

edit: i guess i found a pic over at diyma.

orangeblast
01-09-2006, 04:00 PM
then CD7000 it is! the price would be right and I do not mind the looks of the CD7000 I kind of like it especially versus the CD8455. Too bad Seas doesn't make a 3 way set eh? but then again..there 2 way references are suppose to be AMAZING. we will see in time!

alphakenny1
01-09-2006, 04:04 PM
then CD7000 it is! the price would be right and I do not mind the looks of the CD7000 I kind of like it especially versus the CD8455. Too bad Seas doesn't make a 3 way set eh? but then again..there 2 way references are suppose to be AMAZING. we will see in time!

here's the seas midrange which you can add to make a 3 way frontstage, http://www.mobilesq.com/store/index.php?cPath=27_30_23_34. but of course there are other excellent options if price is a problem. but like you said earlier you need to find a way to get the midranges in your car. so i dunno, for tuning purposes a 2way setup is much easier.

3.5Max6spd
01-10-2006, 09:09 AM
aCTUAL MSRP of the ECLIPSE DECKS:
CD7000 $699
CD5000 $549
CD4000 $349
CD3000 $249
CD2000 $199
CD1000 $159

FYI it has been confirmed that Eclipse HAS been using Burr Brown DAC's- they simply dont advertise it.

6spdcoupe
01-10-2006, 09:11 AM
aCTUAL MSRP of the ECLIPSE DECKS:
CD7000 $699
CD5000 $549
CD4000 $349
CD3000 $249
CD2000 $199
CD1000 $159

FYI it has been confirmed that Eclipse HAS been using Burr Brown DAC's- they simply dont advertise it.

You copy everything I type? :D

3.5Max6spd
01-10-2006, 09:40 AM
You copy everything I type? :D

dont you have ****** diapers to change?:naughty:

6spdcoupe
01-10-2006, 09:59 AM
dont you have ****** diapers to change?:naughty:

Already done, fed and changed Focker.

Babyboy is on his way to the Dr now....

3.5Max6spd
01-10-2006, 10:23 AM
I have no confirmation yet whether it'll handle 4way active on the production version- although I was told so earlier in the week by a tech at Eclipse that it'll control a 3way active FRONSTAGE. Perhaps the sub chs are such in the xover that they can be used for L/Mid use?Weird..
So No confirmation whether it'll have 3 sets of preouts, 4 sets, or 3sets plus a mono for sub. Whether they will make a companion processor for it or capability to control the DCU105 processor. The new look of the CD7000 is what the '07 line is to appear like, as this unit will be carried over in '07. The change from 8v to 5v on the upper deck was a decision made strictly by Eclipse Japan.

I guess time will tell..

UndercoverPunk
01-10-2006, 10:35 AM
Sounds to me that it'll be a 3-way like my alpine and the other eclipses...eclipsi? whatever... we'll see.

6spdcoupe
01-10-2006, 10:39 AM
I have no confirmation yet whether it'll handle 4way active on the production version- although I was told so earlier in the week by a tech at Eclipse that it'll control a 3way active FRONSTAGE. Perhaps the sub chs are such in the xover that they can be used for L/Mid use?Weird..
So No confirmation whether it'll have 3 sets of preouts, 4 sets, or 3sets plus a mono for sub. Whether they will make a companion processor for it or capability to control the DCU105 processor. The new look of the CD7000 is what the '07 line is to appear like, as this unit will be carried over in '07. The change from 8v to 5v on the upper deck was a decision made strictly by Eclipse Japan.

I guess time will tell..

**** what did ya type this while we were on the phone? :crazy:

3.5Max6spd
01-10-2006, 12:00 PM
Too bad...i kinda dig the old school Sony ES looking front plate...
http://www.wtfaudio.com/photos/v/technobug2/misc_day3/Eclipse.jpg.html

So for a unit that does the same as far as DSP as my 8455 but with less voltage and only known difference is being Ipod Ready/detach face and the addition of a band sub EQ....i dunno if it'll tickle my pickle, i need 4way active control at this moment as i dont see myself downgrading to 2way up front again ...

BodegaBay
01-10-2006, 12:14 PM
Manny,

Thanks for the info on the Burr-Brown DAC; I would have never known. It dumbfounds me why Eclipse would not advertise a well known and respected feature. Fujitsu-Ten can be Japanese centric sometimes I guess.

I really don't think the CD7000 has any significant performance difference than the previous 8455, 8454, or 8503/8443 -- just added (and deleted) features. Their 2006 catalog indicates 3 pre-outs, not 4. Please see scanned pics below.

BodegaBay
01-10-2006, 12:18 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/avn1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/avn2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/avn3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/avn4.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/avx1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/avx2.jpg

Ali G
01-10-2006, 12:18 PM
Bummer about it not being able to control an active 4 way.

I think it looks **** as hell... I was gonna buy it... retail, too. But if it can't do 4 way, I'll hang on to my 8053.

BodegaBay
01-10-2006, 12:18 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/dcu1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/sys1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/sys2.jpg

BodegaBay
01-10-2006, 12:19 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/cd1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/cd2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/cd3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/cd4.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/cd5.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/cd6.jpg

6spdcoupe
01-10-2006, 12:31 PM
Manny,

Thanks for the info on the Burr-Brown DAC; I would have never known. It dumbfounds me why Eclipse would not advertise a well known and respected feature. Fujitsu-Ten can be Japanese centric sometimes I guess.

I really don't think the CD7000 has any significant performance difference than the previous 8455, 8454, or 8503/8443 -- just added (and deleted) features. All indications from their 2006 catalog indicates 3 pre-outs, not 4. Please see scanned pics below.I was originally misinformed or misunderstood the info the tech gave me. When I originally asked if it was three way Frontstage capable the answer was yes. I ASSumed a 4th whether mono or stereo sub out was also going to be there.

3 way active Frontstage is still doable, but through reconfiguring the preouts in the menu, thus losing the sub out alltogether. Kinda blows IMO.

Randy Savage
01-10-2006, 12:33 PM
Anyone know the MSRP of the AVN6600?

alphakenny1
01-10-2006, 02:53 PM
man that *****, i was really hoping for a 3way active frontstage HU from eclipse. oh well, stupid technies misinforming our people :crap: . so just looking at the specs they only changed the looks and added a 1 band parametric eq for the sub, which makes it different from the 8455.

theCybe
01-10-2006, 03:09 PM
the cars keep getting uglier every year :)

orangeblast
01-10-2006, 07:46 PM
So...................the CD7000 has a burr brown DAC in it?

I like the idea that you can make is all amber illuminated...should match my interior nicely....but man...it looks cheap...almost like a toy. It deffinitly doesn't have a solid look to it.

What happend to those classy looking decks that everyone use to make...now its all bling bling with friggen dragons and dolphins coming out of the screen.

DRZ9255 vs. CD7000

Lets here it....espeically given what we know now about the CD7000.

937DYTBOI
01-10-2006, 07:52 PM
i want that 7000 series anyone want a clarion 855

mikegett
01-10-2006, 07:52 PM
BodegaBay , could you scan in page 23. It states that page 23 has a control chart detailing the ipod capabilities and controls. Thanks.

BodegaBay
01-10-2006, 08:55 PM
Sure thing Mike.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/ipod.jpg

jimmyjames1700
01-10-2006, 09:45 PM
I am not trying to hijack the thread here but I am suprised nobody is talking about the SW8200 metal cone sub shown on p.8. Did Eclipse also revive the 8000series sub lineup?

BodegaBay
01-10-2006, 10:08 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/sw9000.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/BodegaBay/CES%202006/sw8000.jpg

mikegett
01-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Thanks BodegaBay. It just so happens that I purchased my first ipod two weeks ago. I will have to compare eclipse and alpine on the functionality. Eclipse rotary knob looks as though it will act exactly like the ipod. Cool enough for a upgrade in my book.

jimmyjames1700
01-10-2006, 10:15 PM
WOW!!!, Eclipse is using a LMT motor for the new 8000 series sub that is just huge news. I wonder what the variations of it are compared to the RL-S?

folgrz
01-10-2006, 10:26 PM
Components: Seas Lotus References
Amp: Arc Audio XXK 4150
HU = Either CD7000 or DRZ9255 (i'm just so **** stuck on this part)

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for subs...just my old 12s
Some old competition DEI DVC SQ 12s (2 of them) in a 1.15 sealed box
powered by my DEI 1100D Mono Amp...great match up.. each sub can take 550RMS = total of 1100 for both subs. Running amp in parrallel @ 1 ohm and such. Perfect match.

I'll post some pics becuase I don't remember what subs I have but I remember them being some what legendary...being capable of amazing things...so people said.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/716/img18119st.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3514/img18108tc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

omg i have that sub! LOL thats so funny

its actully in my friends trunk right now

orangeblast
01-10-2006, 11:26 PM
What sub is it again...totally don't remember the model.

Yea... I love them. great SQ...nice and smooth and super deep.

BodegaBay
01-11-2006, 06:43 AM
I forgot to mention something about Alpine decks after demoing them at CES. It seems that all their new 2006 single DIN units are only flip down, not the SwingFace. No wonder some of these units are priced lowered than years past; they've cut out a lot of features!

Motorized face has been industry std. for top tiered decks the last few years and I'm surprised Alpine has abandoned this -- at least for 2006.

3.5Max6spd
01-11-2006, 07:01 PM
It seems the Eclipse CD7000 and Premier PRS880 will be the only choices in 2006 for 3way active...

DRZ9255 and URAL CCD(if released ion the US) will be the only current HU's this year for the all-in-one chassis 4way active crowd..

alphakenny1
01-11-2006, 07:23 PM
It seems the Eclipse CD7000 and Premier PRS880 will be the only choices in 2006 for 3way active...

DRZ9255 and URAL CCD(if released ion the US) will be the only current HU's this year for the all-in-one chassis 4way active crowd..

got a link for the ural ccd? tried doing a search on google and couldn't come up with anything.

orangeblast
01-11-2006, 09:21 PM
URAL CCD? never heard of it.

Wonder if I could some how paint that cheap *** looking giant dial on the CD7000...would like to paint it black or gunmetal...that chromish look is garbage!

6spdcoupe
01-12-2006, 02:25 AM
Its the Russian HU that May be coming to the states. Just do a search on here and itll come up.

orangeblast
01-12-2006, 04:57 AM
wow...pretty crazy. Though the Concert CC looks like a waterproof toy.