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thadman
12-20-2005, 03:06 PM
I am contemplating building a DIY Home Theater for my Xbox 360/Computer and have decided on these drivers
http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=8818261.24572&pid=2038

Can anyone help me design a passive filter for those? I can get each driver for approximately $11. The purpose of this is to create a cheaper/better sounding solution that Klipsch's Promedia 5.1 system. Will 1 driver per channel have enough output to best the klipsch system or should I add 2 drivers for the front and left stereo channels and the centers?

How much do passive filters cost to produce?

What subwoofer would do well with these drivers and not drown them out...just right. Its main purpose is to replicate large explosions, so Sound Quality isnt of huge concern as its main purpose is home theater although I would like it to sound nice.

Would a Peerless XLS 12" mate nice with these? How are Dayton DVCs? How much power should I send the sub? I can get a Behringer Europower amplifier (ep2500 is 2400 watts @ 4ohms=$300, ep1500 is 1400 watts @ 4ohms=$250, and the a500 is 540 watts @ 8ohms = $180) Power really is limitless, the subwoofer is just the link. Does the A500 reference have noticeably better sound quality than the Europower?

thadman
12-20-2005, 03:10 PM
Would it benefit me at all to go with 7 channels? The Soundcard I will be using is either an M Audio Revolution 7.1 or 5.1 (only a slight difference) and itd only be about $20 more to add 2 more channels.

2 each for front left and right and center channel
1 each for rear channels

thadman
12-20-2005, 03:50 PM
Does anybody have any input on this?

thadman
12-20-2005, 05:13 PM
2 Peerless XLS 12s for $175 together vs 1 Dayton 12" HiFi $120

Powered by a Behringer Reference A500

adio
12-20-2005, 05:44 PM
an operator will be with you shortly......

thadman
12-20-2005, 07:36 PM
Does anybody have anything to contribute? Any input on this? I have never worked with Home Theater.

chefboyrlee
12-20-2005, 08:12 PM
the difference between 5.1 and 7.1 is barely noticeble unless ur in a large room. i wouldn't waste the money. as for the filters, i have no idea! good luck.

thadman
12-20-2005, 08:53 PM
How about the subwoofer which was my main concern? Can anybody help me on that choice? I dont want it to overpower the mids.

adio
12-20-2005, 09:10 PM
How about the subwoofer which was my main concern? Can anybody help me on that choice? I dont want it to overpower the mids.
go look at the 'your ht sub' thread to get an idea of what you might want. same thing on icixsound.com

thadman
12-20-2005, 09:57 PM
Those aren't diy subs. I would like to build my own. Do you have any recommendations?

thadman
12-20-2005, 10:01 PM
does anybody have any intelligent input...please stop with the glib remarks

adio
12-20-2005, 10:08 PM
Those aren't diy subs. I would like to build my own. Do you have any recommendations?
did you even read through a few of the pages?? did u try the same one over at icix? tell me why none of those are do it yourself.

Slammed
12-20-2005, 10:13 PM
Ascendat Audio Atlas
Adire Tempest
Adire Shiva

Slammed
12-20-2005, 10:14 PM
http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=131213


;)

thadman
12-20-2005, 10:27 PM
Ive waded through most of that and I havent found what im looking for.

How low do Ascendant Audio Atlas's go?

I am familiar with Car Audio but not HT, how low would you normally port a box?

adio
12-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Ive waded through most of that and I havent found what im looking for.

How low do Ascendant Audio Atlas's go?

I am familiar with Car Audio but not HT, how low would you normally port a box?
thad, what are you tryin to do man?? tell us. asking questions that don't seem to be related won't help anybody out. tell us your plans you have.

ok nevermind. i see

adio
12-20-2005, 10:37 PM
get the a500 and a dayton dvc 12" tuned to 20Hz

thadman
12-20-2005, 10:39 PM
I am building a small budget home theater setup for my Xbox 360/Computer. I dont want to spend a fortune, but I may spend a little bit extra on the subwoofer than I normally would on a system. The main purpose of this is to build a system that is superior to a Klipsch Promedia 5.1/Logitech Z5500 system for around the same price.

I am going to do DIY, because I believe It is more gratifying and I will appreciate it more. Also I believe I will get more for my money, and it will be something that is completely custom.

Dylan has helped me so far with finding satellites. The Aurasound 3" Extended range 193s look great, they extend to 80hz. I can get them for roughly $11 and will not have to build xovers, as its only 1 driver. Dylan mentioned I would probably need a passive filter, Ive never heard of/worked with these and would like an explanation on these. Im assuming they use capacitors and what not that are usually affiliated with xovers. I am open to anything and would love to build them on my own...I just need a little bit of help along the way.

thadman
12-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Is the DVC the best option for under $100? How does it compare to the Atlas/Dayton Reference HiFi?

How much better overall would the subwoofer be if I threw an extra $300 at it?

IDMax/Avalanche paired with a Behringer Europower EP1500 (1400 watts) or EP2500 (2400 watts both at 4ohm)
~$250-280 + $250/$300

$500-600 overall compared to $300~325 for the Dayton/Atlas option with the A500

thadman
12-20-2005, 10:44 PM
What kind of output should I expect from a DVC? Hornloading is an option if it radically increases output and clarity, although it would occupy more space I am open to that.

adio
12-20-2005, 11:08 PM
gatdamm man, why are you so anxious!?!? u tryin to get this all done tonight by 10:37pm?? calm down sonny.
dayton DVC is a good choice. ever heard of adire?? well these and tempest are quiet similiar. look at their TS specs. you can go on ebay and look at used subs if u want. atlas are good also from what i heard, but the DVC is cheaper.

you can also use a IDMAX or an avalanche, but why?? save some dough.
and you're not gonna need 1400 watts. some people use that much, but they have multiple subs and alotta ppl w/ that much power have an IB setup so it can knock down to 8 - 13Hz and up. most people are happy w/ 250 watts , some are with 350 watts most smile at 500 watts and nobody will ever complain w/ 1000 watts.

go with your cheaper option. don't know much about hornloading. wait more than 20 minutes for answer, you'll get something OR post this same questions on different boards.

hayden
12-20-2005, 11:29 PM
You simply can't do a decent DIY sub for $100. I would really stretch the # figure to about $300-400. If you want a decent sub for now, get one of these commercial subs:

BIC Acoustech H-100
Cadence X-Sub
Mirage S10
Sony SA-WX500 or WX700
Dayton Audio 12 (partsexpress)

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