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Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:24 AM
MAN!!! Did i really dig my self into this one!

But it's coming along!!

I planned to give it away to some1 n pay them to finish it, but the DIYer in me wouldn't have it! So i stuck to it, and found out bondo isn't as hard as i thought it was. Although still tedious and time consuming.

So Half a sheet of MDF, 1 and 1/8the Resin, Lots a Biaxial Cloth, **** yellow fleece, sweat, and frustration later this is what i've got so far.

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0060_50.jpg
Let the BONDO begin!

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0061_50.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0062_50.jpg
The fiberglassed port

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0063_50.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0064_50.jpg
Didn't want to spend much time bondoing the inside which shouldn't be seen,
SO i laid down some primer, did it in the dark, so wasn't perfect.

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0065_50.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0066_50.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0067_50.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0068_50.jpg
Wasn't till after, the flash showed me all this, wish i gone over it with a few more coats. Wish i had better lighting.

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0069_50.jpg

XtrmAudioCncpts
12-14-2005, 11:25 AM
looks good and it looks like you have a ton of freakin sanding to do

Alpineinstaller
12-14-2005, 11:27 AM
whats gonna cover this mighty bastard?

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:27 AM
A GALLON of bondo later, this is where we are at

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0112.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0113.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0114.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0115.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0116.jpg

I'd say about 2 more gallons of bondo and it'll be SMOOOOTH!!

Then i think i'mma shot it with a couple cans of spray. Not sure if i want like a satin black or glossy black.

Stay tuned!

Chevyaudio
12-14-2005, 11:28 AM
Yes, I see lots of sanding in your future

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:30 AM
Just a few reminders of the humble beginnings and jouorney of the box

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0002_25.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0005_25.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0007_25.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0016_25.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0028_25.jpg

http://www.omarvelous.com/media/CarAudio/HPIM0030_25.jpg

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:34 AM
THE best thing i can recommend to any1 attempting something that calls for lots of Bondo is...... BUY A FILE! They sell it in autozone and pepboys n all those places, same aisle as the bondo. All u need is the file itself, don't need the attachment, it works WONDERS!!!

ALSO buy the filler scoop as well! gets ALL the bondo of the sides, u will waste NONE!

By the way, the bondo on there now, is more so my "first layer". I decided to take the advice of a few readups i've had, that recommended that the first one is more like a ruff draft, so keep that in mind.

Chevyaudio
12-14-2005, 11:34 AM
best tool for cleaning up bondo=DA sander

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:36 AM
Yes, I see lots of sanding in your future

Oooo yea! But i got my grits ready for war!!

That's another tip, lots of bondo does require lots of sanding. DON'T buy a cheapo block, get a nice one with a grip, spend the xtra 2$. It REALLY helps with the heavy grits. i sand 4x faster using my 5$ walmart block, with a grip and quick release for faster paper loading/unloading then i do with my cheap *** 3$ block.

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:37 AM
best tool for cleaning up bondo=DA sander

Yea i guess i can try that, what kind u rec a belt or orbital? I think i have access to a orbital one.

Chevyaudio
12-14-2005, 11:39 AM
Yeah an orbital will work. You have to have a pretty decent size air compressor for a DA (dual Action) sander. Thats why I love my 30 Gallon air compressor.

Alpineinstaller
12-14-2005, 11:42 AM
I love my DA too, with my 100 gallon tank to go with it. Slap some 60 on it and go to work.

Chevyaudio
12-14-2005, 11:42 AM
I love my DA too, with my 100 gallon tank to go with it. Slap some 60 on it and go to work.


your tank>my tank

Alpineinstaller
12-14-2005, 11:45 AM
my tank> everything

XtrmAudioCncpts
12-14-2005, 11:48 AM
cant wait to see it completely finished and totally installed

lslugz
12-14-2005, 12:19 PM
cant wait to see it completely finished and totally installed
x2

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 12:37 PM
whats gonna cover this mighty bastard?

I'd honestly would LOVE to see some1 try to carpet this! LMAO!!!

DEF paint!!! Leaning towards a satin black. Won't be working on it until next week.

So in the mean time doing some spray paint research so i do it right!

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 12:37 PM
cant wait to see it completely finished and totally installed

Believe me, i can't wait either!!! :yumyum:

ramos
12-14-2005, 01:44 PM
Sandings some freakin' fun ain't it :D At least you got room to use sanders, most of my sanding I'm having to do by hand. :)

THUNDERBIRD
12-14-2005, 01:57 PM
hope u got a good dust mask. defently use some sort of power sander or a da.

baseballer1100
12-14-2005, 05:59 PM
looks good

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:30 PM
something like this good enough?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=97187

or this

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=2629

and can u explain what's Dual Action about them?

InhumanAcura
12-14-2005, 11:36 PM
something like this good enough?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=97187

or this

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=2629

and can u explain what's Dual Action about them?

the 2nd one.

the pad, and the shaft the pad is connected to both rotate randomly...sometimes if you block or hand sand you'll have deep scratches from one part of the paper being rubbed in the same spot repeatedly..this pretty much eliminates that happening..worthy investment imo

Omarvelous
12-14-2005, 11:56 PM
the 2nd one.

the pad, and the shaft the pad is connected to both rotate randomly...sometimes if you block or hand sand you'll have deep scratches from one part of the paper being rubbed in the same spot repeatedly..this pretty much eliminates that happening..worthy investment imo

mmm i seee!!! I'm going to look into it. Hopefully i can get a compressor, don't wanna pay to rent or buy one.

What my question is now is.....Can i then OVER bondo and sand down to the shape i want???

86yota
12-15-2005, 10:22 AM
hey man. get an ELECTRIC ORBITAL SANDER. dont mess with air stuff. sure they are more powerful, but they are noisy, you gotta oil them, the run out of air etc. electric just goes onnn and onnn. i cant believe your doing all that by hand lol. i could have it all sanded in 2 nights with an electric

ramos
12-15-2005, 10:34 AM
What my question is now is.....Can i then OVER bondo and sand down to the shape i want???


You can, but you need to use kitty hair, bondo hair, or any glass reinforced filler for thick buildups. It's stronger than regular filler, and is less likely to crack. Regular filler in thick patches, is just asking for trouble later :)

Omarvelous
12-15-2005, 05:10 PM
You can, but you need to use kitty hair, bondo hair, or any glass reinforced filler for thick buildups. It's stronger than regular filler, and is less likely to crack. Regular filler in thick patches, is just asking for trouble later :)

I wasn't really doing it for the purpose of build up. It would more b to get alll the bondo work out the way, then let it dry, n just sand smooth.

see what i mean?

Chevyaudio
12-15-2005, 05:14 PM
If your gonna get a Dual Action Sander be sure and get a large compressor like 30+ gallon. And to the guy that said electric is better than air...you have no Idea.

NhustlaR
12-15-2005, 10:32 PM
hey i see youve done some work ;) doesnt look toooo bad. keep doin what youre doin. :( the badd ice rain made me get into an accident today, went into a ditch. good thing my sx and in dash didnt get damaged :) good luck again.

ramos
12-16-2005, 07:57 AM
hey man. get an ELECTRIC ORBITAL SANDER. dont mess with air stuff. sure they are more powerful, but they are noisy, you gotta oil them, the run out of air etc. electric just goes onnn and onnn. i cant believe your doing all that by hand lol. i could have it all sanded in 2 nights with an electric


IMHO air tools seem to last longer than electric tools for me. I have a couple of air sanders that are 10 years old and still running great. Wish I could say the same for the numerous electrics I have killed in that time. :)

ramos
12-16-2005, 07:59 AM
I wasn't really doing it for the purpose of build up. It would more b to get alll the bondo work out the way, then let it dry, n just sand smooth.

see what i mean?


Okay, as long as it's not thick you will be allright. Remember to knock down any rough ridges in the filler with a file or rough grit paper, when the filler starts turning rubbery. Allot easier to take off while rubbery then after it's hardened :)

Omarvelous
12-16-2005, 03:46 PM
Okay, as long as it's not thick you will be allright. Remember to knock down any rough ridges in the filler with a file or rough grit paper, when the filler starts turning rubbery. Allot easier to take off while rubbery then after it's hardened :)

Yea, and the file eats it up. Think i might have access to a compressor and tank, just gotta see how big it is.

On my way home fing Flipped my truck, so my spirts are a little drained right now, so prob won't feel like working on it much. We'll see.

the_flatlander
12-16-2005, 04:06 PM
how did you do that?

Omarvelous
12-16-2005, 08:14 PM
how did you do that?

Well from the beginning of my normal 5.5 hr ride, there was nothiong but rain, ice, slush, and snow, the whole 350 mile stretch.

It wasn't until about 250 miles in on i 80, my back quickly kicked/drifted left, so instead of going straight, started going diagnol right into the guard rail, by my car completed the 180. Hit the left side, spun and flipped on the left slide and glided for some distance.

And the thing was, that stretch of highway that i had was nothing compared to the 380, 95, 81, or 690 that i had just covered in the 250.

It would kick very slightly now n then, and i'd be able to recover it gently, it would look as if i abbruptly changed lanes, but i'd recover. This time the back kicked WAY to fast and too much to recover. Ended up climbing out the sunroof.

*** it i'm just glad to be alive, but still pissed that it happened. i had 4w drive on also.

THUNDERBIRD
12-16-2005, 08:31 PM
sorry to hear that man. 4wheel does help but the rear end still likes to slide. ru going to get the truck fixed or get a new one?

Omarvelous
12-18-2005, 01:17 PM
sorry to hear that man. 4wheel does help but the rear end still likes to slide. ru going to get the truck fixed or get a new one?

Thx man.

Yea it was sliding the whole ride, very slightly though, so i would let it drift from lane to lane instead of cutting it back.

BUT this time, WOW!! it just slide outta NOWHERE REAL fast, and the road was practically clear compared to the other times. kicked so hard it was on it's way to 180degrees b4 i hit. I just started braking and braced for impact.

The insurance comp was mentioning total loss, so mightjust get a new one. I don't think the cost to repair would justify them paying off the note, although i could be mistaken.

chinny
12-18-2005, 01:18 PM
Looks like one hell of a project man. GL with it.

Class D
12-18-2005, 06:26 PM
More Pics Please!!!!!

SAG3
12-18-2005, 07:24 PM
so you gonna finish it?

Omarvelous
12-19-2005, 04:00 AM
yea, i will. Start working on it today

Raisedin305
12-19-2005, 10:37 AM
I give you props for sticking to your project and not handing it down to some one else to finish off your job.

THUNDERBIRD
12-19-2005, 04:02 PM
get more pics up and some pics of the truck