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thadman
12-04-2005, 03:16 PM
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-intro.html

This is a site dedicated to 3d spiral horn loaded drivers. Has anybody explored this route?

http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-horizontal/horizontal.gif

horizontal horn
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-horizontal/h100-finished.gif
design
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-horizontal/h100-dimension.gif

linear models
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-horizontal/horizontal.gif
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-l125/helix-l125.gif
design
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-l125/l125dimension.gif

thadman
12-04-2005, 03:20 PM
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-boxmodel.html here is a box model
http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~hanbei/eng-box/boxtype.gif the design

JimJ
12-04-2005, 06:18 PM
I remember someone on DIYaudio saying they were attempting that project; don't know if anything ever came of it.

Regardless, I'd love to play with that 845 triode amp that's in the pictures :)

supa_c
12-04-2005, 06:24 PM
that doesnt look fun at all.

thadman
12-04-2005, 07:35 PM
It doesnt look that hard to build and would probably be a pretty fun project.

Would this design possess all the same benefits of a horn or folded horn?
Is there a formula/way to predict the design of one of these cabinets for a different set of drivers?

How much of a difference would this design see over a ported or sealed enclosure?

supa_c
12-04-2005, 07:37 PM
Hard, no
time consuming, heck yes
A folded horn would take way less time to make

thadman
12-04-2005, 07:39 PM
These seem to take a smaller amount of space, and I think it would be a fun project

Is there a program/formula/way to predict the parameters of the enclosure for horns?

Are horn designs THAT much better compared to sealed or ported?

JimJ
12-04-2005, 07:57 PM
No really good programs to model 'em...

Depends on whether or not you need the ultra-high efficiency that a horn provides. If you have hundreds of watts to play with, you won't have the same need for 100+dB/W speakers that someone with only 10 watts has :)

thadman
12-04-2005, 08:39 PM
I thought that the horn design extended the low end? making it possible to create heavy bass with a smaller driver?

JimJ
12-04-2005, 10:02 PM
It does that as well...but not all drivers are suited for horn loading.

thadman
12-04-2005, 10:07 PM
I understand that, I was planning on using one of Fostexs fullrange drivers

thadman
12-05-2005, 09:28 PM
Anyone? They mentioned these boxes are the same size as vented/ported designs (meaning they wouldnt be THAT large at all)

I would very much like to design/build one for my Diamond Audio D9 15" but I am not sure how to design a spiral horn...or ne horn for that matter can someone give me some insight?

thch
12-06-2005, 01:13 AM
horn? it seem to have no characteristics in common with a horn other then some superficial conic shaped section on the output. the site even descibes the box in a similar fashoin to a ported box. further there seems to be no proof on the site that the boxes offer any objective qualities over a ported box. this is not to say the 3d spirals aren't good (or are good).

req
12-06-2005, 01:16 AM
looks like it would perform just as well as a bass reflex enclosure to be honest. whats the difference of a spiral port over a straight line port?

thadman
12-06-2005, 06:36 PM
The air has room to expand throughout the spiral horn