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thaar411
11-17-2005, 11:50 AM
Going to go buy a router tonight and possible a table saw. Which one(s) would you recommend?

This was the table saw I was considering: http://www.deltamachinery.com/index.asp?e=136&p=796

I can pick it up for less than $100 and I don't think I need anything extreme. Will this one be okay?

As for routers, there seems to be a pretty large selection so I'm not sure. I was possible thinking of this one since it comes with a small table: http://www.ryobitools.com/index.php/catalog/tool/r162rta/

Also, which is better: plunge or fixed and why?

And what bits should I consider picking up?

Anything else I should consider? I am going to the hardware store and getting cost +10% tonight and I'd like to expand my selection of power tools. And 60+gallon compressor is out of the question right now. I currently have a jig saw, circular saw, and cordless drill.

Moe Lester
11-17-2005, 12:13 PM
Nope, That tablesaw wont do jack for boxes. Its only got a 9 1/2" rip capacity. Unless you are building sealed boxes for 8s then its not going to help you.

The Home Depot link doesnt work (as usual) but you want a plunge router with a circle jig for doing cutouts. It will also work well for standard roundover and flush trimming as well as other kinds of trimming if you feel like it.

If you have a compressor I suggest you look at brad nailers :) They make box assembly much easier and faster, especially if you are working alone on the box.

thaar411
11-17-2005, 12:19 PM
link to router fixed.

And what should I be looking for in table saws then?

Flipx99
11-17-2005, 12:28 PM
I have that table saw and it works for me.

thaar411
11-17-2005, 12:34 PM
Nope, That tablesaw wont do jack for boxes. Its only got a 9 1/2" rip capacity. Unless you are building sealed boxes for 8s then its not going to help you.

So you're saying the largest cut I will be able to make will be 9.5" long?

Flipx99
11-17-2005, 12:36 PM
No...It will work, just be sure you have rollers or help as you slide larger panels through the saw.

Moe Lester
11-17-2005, 12:36 PM
If you plan on using it alot, get something with a ~30" rip capacity. That ought to be able to do any size box you could want.

9 1/2" is what it lists, There may be an optional extension to increase it. Otherwise it looks like 9 1/2" is all you can do. I have a 20" rip capacity and that still isnt nearly enough.

Youll probably want to go with a little bit better router that has a plunge base. Take a look at Bosch and Porter Cable. 1 3/4 to 2 1/4 horse will be enough for tearing through MDF. You dont really need the router table for doing flares on ports and things like that.

Flipx99
11-17-2005, 12:41 PM
What do you mean by rip capacity. You can push a board 4'

thaar411
11-17-2005, 12:41 PM
Alright, I think I understand then. The guide to the right of the blade only extends to 9.5" right?

Moe Lester
11-17-2005, 12:42 PM
Alright, I think I understand then. The guide to the right of the blade only extends to 9.5" right?

yep thats what it looks like.


Rip capacity = how far the fence will move to the right of the blade. Delta's site says its 9.5"

Flipx99
11-17-2005, 12:45 PM
I see....Then yes, you are correct. It has never caused me a big problem other than I would have to cut more than once, therefore creating a ~1/16" slant on most of my boxes.

thaar411
11-17-2005, 01:33 PM
So which table saw would you recommend?

Moe Lester
11-17-2005, 01:37 PM
So which table saw would you recommend?

The most expensive one you can afford. :)

How much do you actually have for a tablesaw?

thaar411
11-17-2005, 01:44 PM
I guess I would like to keep it under $200-250 or so, if possible. I can spend more if I have to, but would rather not. Looking for best bang for the buck.

Edit: What about this one: http://www.ryobitools.com/index.php/catalog/tool/bts20/ $199 at HD and has a 27" rip capacity.

Beat_Dominator
11-17-2005, 02:00 PM
I see....Then yes, you are correct. It has never caused me a big problem other than I would have to cut more than once, therefore creating a ~1/16" slant on most of my boxes.


x2, I just draw a line with a t-square and have a friend help hold the long end up and I go really slow. you can get extremely straight cuts as long as you are patient.

nVRuckus
11-17-2005, 02:19 PM
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?pid=00924884000&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&cs=e1

thats the table saw I have and honestly if you have a circular saw and a compressor I would probably spend my money on a router and brad nailer instead. I dont use my table saw as much as i thought i would for car audio, I used it for installing wood floors and baseboards but only used it once in car audio I use my circular saw to cut down full sheets of MDF cause the tablesaws cant hold the big sheets. Plunge routers are good but not necessary for car audio, I have both and my fixed base is the one i use the most honestly. its lighter and setting it at 1/2" depth is what you will do on most ring cutouts and 3/4" for roundovers. no need to plunge.

Ayrton
11-17-2005, 02:21 PM
This a great deal on a router combo. I t is a Craftsman, but it is really a Bosch router kit.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00926620000

Any contractor saw would work, but you will have to build an extension table for maximum rip capacity.

Delta 36-675 10" Contractor Saw is a good choice for a table saw under $500.

guy022077
11-17-2005, 03:26 PM
i have a craftsmen 10inch on sale and a craftmen router and they both work awesome...less then 200 for both combined

Omarvelous
11-17-2005, 03:54 PM
If i was a major builder OR owned a audio shop :cough: I'd love to get one of those wall circular saws that they have at Home Depot.

Then a smaller table saw + hand circle saw would do as far as circular saws go.

But in all honesty, i'd rec a hand circle saw over the table, especially if you don't plan on using it likt that.

It'll do you fine!

saywhat?
11-17-2005, 04:30 PM
If i was a major builder OR owned a audio shop :cough: I'd love to get one of those wall circular saws that they have at Home Depot.

Then a smaller table saw + hand circle saw would do as far as circular saws go.

But in all honesty, i'd rec a hand circle saw over the table, especially if you don't plan on using it likt that.

It'll do you fine!


i have a link where u can get one for roughly 800 bucks. i will get it later. looks pretty good to. it dosnt have a back face like home depots but it will work wonders im sure.


i want a circular caw and clamps to work with as i HATE my table saw. 190 dollar craftsman works for cutting hseets down but nothing more really.

Omarvelous
11-17-2005, 04:34 PM
i have a link where u can get one for roughly 800 bucks. i will get it later. looks pretty good to. it dosnt have a back face like home depots but it will work wonders im sure.


i want a circular caw and clamps to work with as i HATE my table saw. 190 dollar craftsman works for cutting hseets down but nothing more really.

Nice!! Can i have that link plz? Will b really beneficial!

And yea like u said, regular circular saw would b good enough. UNLESS your doing large volume, where a GOOOD table say like Moe said would be better.

saywhat?
11-17-2005, 04:38 PM
as soon as i can get it to u i will.

Omarvelous
11-17-2005, 04:41 PM
Aww man beat u to it!

Panel Saw iss what they are called. Thx though man.

http://www.southern-tool.com/store/panelsaws.html

I'd still like that link though of the one u had.

saywhat?
11-17-2005, 04:47 PM
http://www.southern-tool.com/store/panel-pro_panel_saw.html


very bottom

saywhat?
11-17-2005, 04:50 PM
http://www.panelpro.com/ the actual site for the company.