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adio
10-24-2005, 03:50 PM
since jack didn't tell anybody to come over to icix, i decided to come to you!!:veryhapp:
tell us about it, if you have one (your sub). on a scale from 1 - 10, what would you give it?? did you buy it or is it a DIY??

93 saturn sl2
10-24-2005, 04:02 PM
I have a Sony 12" powered sub. I would give it a 8 because it sounds good but it cant take lower bass notes you can start to hear it bottom out. I used to think that it was really loud until I got my system in my car now it dont have much bass to me..

adio
10-24-2005, 04:10 PM
now it dont have much bass to me..
awwwwwwwwwww:crap: where'd you get it from?

93 saturn sl2
10-24-2005, 04:12 PM
awwwwwwwwwww:crap: where'd you get it from?

what...........It still has all the bass that it used to have but since im used to my system in my car it sounds different to me.

adio
10-24-2005, 04:13 PM
what...........It still has all the bass that it used to have but since im used to my system in my car it sounds different to me.
yeah, i know, that's why i said.. awwwwwwwwwwwwww :crap:

PV Audio
10-24-2005, 05:43 PM
http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=121281

i give it a 8. the sub is excellent as is the enclosure, but it should be doing ALOT more with 1000w rms than it does. perhaps the enclosure makes it innefficient, but i highly doubt that. for it's Vd, it should have more output. great driver, AMAZING sq, but if u want something like LOUD LOUD, look elsewhere.

adio
10-24-2005, 07:07 PM
http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=121281

i give it a 8. the sub is excellent as is the enclosure, but it should be doing ALOT more with 1000w rms than it does. perhaps the enclosure makes it innefficient, but i highly doubt that. for it's Vd, it should have more output. great driver, AMAZING sq, but if u want something like LOUD LOUD, look elsewhere.
what do yu think it could be??

JimJ
10-24-2005, 07:08 PM
since jack didn't tell anybody to come over to icix, i decided to come to you!!

Because that forum is a waste of space :) The only reason why I was over there is to post my classified ads...:D

PV Audio
10-24-2005, 07:11 PM
what do yu think it could be??
lol the driver maybe?

BoominBeast
10-24-2005, 07:49 PM
RE 8. dont know avent heard it yet. working on it. give me 5 days to get all the goods

adio
10-24-2005, 10:33 PM
Because that forum is a waste of space :) The only reason why I was over there is to post my classified ads...:D
oh :)

adio
10-25-2005, 12:47 AM
anybody else?

btnhfan
10-25-2005, 01:07 AM
DD 8"

I love it. I give it a 9.

adio
10-25-2005, 03:36 AM
DD 8"

I love it. I give it a 9.
well, ummmmmmmmmmm, tell us more about it!

btnhfan
10-25-2005, 11:50 AM
It plays music below 80hz.

Ummm

Its getting like 300w in a ~1.1 cube box tuned to ~25hz

I want to give it 2 cubes and tune to 20 hz.
For the spring.

PV Audio
10-25-2005, 12:00 PM
that's a big mofockin port

IamDeMan
10-25-2005, 01:26 PM
that's a big mofockin portHow do you know? If he is only using a 2" port then it would be a little under 11" :P

I doubt he is using one with that little area, but just saying there are other variables missing to determine your response :)

Even a 3" port which would work for many 8" drivers would only be 25.4" which isn't really big, but getting there.

vasilios
10-25-2005, 01:30 PM
fantasy HT sub would have to be a 15 tumult in a 5ft^3 box tuned to anywhere from 15-20hz with a 1000 watt plate amp from parts express...drools.

i own a ****** little 8 altec lansing....50-80watts...poopy.

PV Audio
10-25-2005, 02:28 PM
How do you know? If he is only using a 2" port then it would be a little under 11" :P

I doubt he is using one with that little area, but just saying there are other variables missing to determine your response :)

Even a 3" port which would work for many 8" drivers would only be 25.4" which isn't really big, but getting there.
no i'm just saying, an 8" dd is probably movin air so hes gonna be runnin it wide, AND its gonna be in a dorm room :)

then again, what do i know :)

PV Audio
10-25-2005, 02:29 PM
fantasy HT sub would have to be a 15 tumult in a 5ft^3 box tuned to anywhere from 15-20hz with a 1000 watt plate amp from parts express...drools.

i own a ****** little 8 altec lansing....50-80watts...poopy. if you can find me a tumult for 400 dollars....i'll be happy

adio
10-25-2005, 09:53 PM
my dream HT sub is almost anything that will hit 117dbs at 18Hz with 6% THD or less

vasilios
10-25-2005, 10:00 PM
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wrc/tumult.htm

yummy...

vasilios
10-25-2005, 10:01 PM
if you can find me a tumult for 400 dollars....i'll be happy


no kidding.

PV Audio
10-25-2005, 10:25 PM
i have to say the tumult with the adire dustcap is one of the most beautiful drivers i've ever seen.

vasilios
10-25-2005, 10:30 PM
ive never seen one with an adire dustcap...ive only seen the plain ones with nothing on it..

tommyk90
10-25-2005, 10:32 PM
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3476/dormsetup4small0at.jpg

two 10" MTX 4000's (my old car subs) in 4 cubes tuned to 20 hz.

I'd give it a 7.5 because it slams pretty d*mn hard and is pretty tight sounding, but doesn't get as low as i'd like to. But what can i expect for a pair of subs that cost me $100 like 4 years ago. I'm thinking about upgrading eventually, maybe throwing that 10" seXXX i have laying around in it. :)

vasilios
10-25-2005, 10:56 PM
wow, have fun with it. keep us posted.

PV Audio
10-26-2005, 12:30 AM
vasilios, don't talk to bass master unless you want your reasoning and logic skills to drop exponentially

JimJ
10-26-2005, 01:15 AM
Tommy, throw that SeXXX in a Sonotube :)

Cover with wallpaper-of-favorite-beer-company = perfect college apartment sub :D

adio
10-26-2005, 01:24 AM
that would be hot

tommyk90
10-26-2005, 02:06 AM
Tommy, throw that SeXXX in a Sonotube :)

Cover with wallpaper-of-favorite-beer-company = perfect college apartment sub :D

No sub enclosure at school. :)

Just a simple bookshelf system for here, nothing too pricey.

The nice stuff (sony 5.1 receiver, yamaha bookshelfs, sub enclosure, etc.) are all at home. ;)

I'm contemplating throwing some better subs in the old enclosure though. :)

adio
10-26-2005, 03:10 AM
ahaahahahhhhah, thanks for posting about what you don't have!!

OnYrMrk
10-26-2005, 03:27 PM
JL Audio Fathom F113 with internal 2500w amp. ABSOLUTELY MINDBLOWING PERFORMANCE. Man I can't comment enough about this sub. I have it on loan from a rep who is a good friend of mine.

I think I will be replacing my Sunfire EQ Signature. They are about the same size, although the Sunfire puts out 2700w's it doesn't seem like it does. The JL is much more defined and for HT applications, the JL seems to rock when others just roll.

PV Audio
10-26-2005, 05:25 PM
^^ :wow: :wow: :omg: :omg: :bowdown: :bowdown:
i'll still give u props regardless of u saying the subwoofer puts out watts.

adio
10-26-2005, 05:45 PM
JL Audio Fathom F113 with internal 2500w amp. ABSOLUTELY MINDBLOWING PERFORMANCE. Man I can't comment enough about this sub. I have it on loan from a rep who is a good friend of mine.

I think I will be replacing my Sunfire EQ Signature. They are about the same size, although the Sunfire puts out 2700w's it doesn't seem like it does. The JL is much more defined and for HT applications, the JL seems to rock when others just roll.
:eek: :eek:

adio
10-26-2005, 09:31 PM
is there a reason adires prices went up?? i remember when their tempests were $150 and their shivas were $125
who else wants to talk about their HT sub?

JimJ
10-26-2005, 09:32 PM
is there a reason adires prices went up?? i remember when their tempests were $150 and their shivas were $125

Transfer from a direct ordering system with everything being done in the US to an offshore production facility with a dealer network being set up.

JimJ
10-26-2005, 09:41 PM
By calling them, or an authorized dealer?

JimJ
10-26-2005, 10:20 PM
Josh said that?

If he did, there's a reason.

btnhfan
10-27-2005, 12:32 AM
They wont release prices because things can always change. They are doing the consumer a favor.

What if they say its 100, then the cost of steel goes up in 1 week and they raise it to 200?

When its done, its done.


There has been another company that has done a pre-order, and that was all fubar. *cough* eD

They have stated that they will release them and more info when its done. Im am sure they have changed at least 1 thing from the original design. It is much better they release info, pics, etc.. when the time is right.

adio
10-27-2005, 01:14 AM
Transfer from a direct ordering system with everything being done in the US to an offshore production facility with a dealer network being set up.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)

adio
10-27-2005, 01:16 AM
They wont release prices because things can always change. They are doing the consumer a favor.

What if they say its 100, then the cost of steel goes up in 1 week and they raise it to 200?

When its done, its done.


There has been another company that has done a pre-order, and that was all fubar. *cough* eD

They have stated that they will release them and more info when its done. Im am sure they have changed at least 1 thing from the original design. It is much better they release info, pics, etc.. when the time is right.
whats fubar?

ballstothewall
10-27-2005, 01:19 AM
F'ed up beyond any repair.

adio
10-27-2005, 02:59 AM
F'ed up beyond any repair.
oh :)

JimJ
10-27-2005, 03:07 AM
Closely related to a snafu - situation normal, all fucked up.

ballstothewall
10-27-2005, 08:22 PM
that has been used long before saving private ryan was even thought of...

It can be used either way, on our farm, it is "any repair"

adio
10-27-2005, 10:15 PM
could be true, but i want you kids to tell more ppl to come in here and tell us about their HT subs.

slick316
10-27-2005, 10:28 PM
I don't have a sub anymore because I couldn't use it much in my apartment, so I sold it. But it was a Velodyne SPL-800 Series II, 8" subwoofer with a 1000 watt RMS amp. I loved it, small and powerful. Great output for HT purposes, but also great for music. I mainly used my system for music, and that sub was a great compliment. If I ever move into a house, I would definately look for another sub from Velodyne.
Only two things I didn't like about it. The bright *** blue LED on the front of the unit, it was so bright I had to put a piece of black electrical tape over it. And the fact that it wasn't magnetically shielded. I had to keep it 4-5 feet away from my CRT TV, the 10" and 12" models are shielded.
BTW, they made a new version of it, the SPL-R. Has a parametric EQ built in with a mic to correct for room acoustics and also a remote, to control sub volume and change presets (like movie, jazz, rock, etc.).

adio
10-30-2005, 05:31 PM
I don't have a sub anymore because I couldn't use it much in my apartment, so I sold it. But it was a Velodyne SPL-800 Series II, 8" subwoofer with a 1000 watt RMS amp. I loved it, small and powerful. Great output for HT purposes, but also great for music. I mainly used my system for music, and that sub was a great compliment. If I ever move into a house, I would definately look for another sub from Velodyne.
Only two things I didn't like about it. The bright *** blue LED on the front of the unit, it was so bright I had to put a piece of black electrical tape over it. And the fact that it wasn't magnetically shielded. I had to keep it 4-5 feet away from my CRT TV, the 10" and 12" models are shielded.
BTW, they made a new version of it, the SPL-R. Has a parametric EQ built in with a mic to correct for room acoustics and also a remote, to control sub volume and change presets (like movie, jazz, rock, etc.).
:veryhapp: :veryhapp: i'm trying to battle the legendary velodyne cht-150. i'm thinking of upgrading my 250 watt plate amp to a 350 watt one and i'm still waiting on a 15" to match up with it.

j3bus2k3
10-31-2005, 12:46 AM
MIne should be ready in a month....12" type-r out of the car...3cu.ft. box tuned to i think ~22Hz, and a 300 watt plate amp....hope it does well.

Moe Lester
10-31-2005, 12:47 AM
RL-i 10" 1.3 @ 23hz or something like that. I just need an amp now.

Beat_Dominator
10-31-2005, 12:51 AM
Mine's in my sig...but it was too hot this summer to build its box and now I work too much :(

adio
10-31-2005, 01:34 AM
RL-i 10" 1.3 @ 23hz or something like that. I just need an amp now.
what rating would u give it??

BoominBeast
10-31-2005, 02:01 AM
what about an RLP

Moe Lester
10-31-2005, 12:30 PM
what rating would u give it??

"I just need an amp now" means its probably not working yet lol

adio
10-31-2005, 11:47 PM
"I just need an amp now" means its probably not working yet lol
i knew that!!!!:furious:

adio
10-31-2005, 11:48 PM
Mine's in my sig...but it was too hot this summer to build its box and now I work too much :(
whats in ur sig??

azbass
10-31-2005, 11:56 PM
jbl 10" i give it a 10. jbl 18" give it a 10

adio
10-31-2005, 11:58 PM
jbl 10" i give it a 10. jbl 18" give it a 10
thanks, but are u using both or one?? what are you powering them with?

azbass
11-01-2005, 12:00 AM
thanks, but are u using both or one?? what are you powering them with?

the 10 is for computer system, self powered.

the 18 is for HT use, with a plate amp..

adio
11-01-2005, 12:02 AM
the 10 is for computer system, self powered.

the 18 is for HT use, with a plate amp..
what plate amp??!!! give details brethren!!!

ngsm13
11-01-2005, 12:18 AM
Rl-i 12 in downfiring, 3 cubes NET @22hz with 30 sq. in. of port. Powered by 250rms. I like it, good SQ, gets LOW. I give it an 8, cuz I know there is better out there...

NG

Beat_Dominator
11-01-2005, 12:20 AM
whats in ur sig??

The idmax, and my sweet Pioneer Premier. :crying: They want to be used!

adio
11-01-2005, 12:38 AM
Rl-i 12 in downfiring, 3 cubes NET @22hz with 30 sq. in. of port. Powered by 250rms. I like it, good SQ, gets LOW. I give it an 8, cuz I know there is better out there...

NG
;) . is it me or does everybody on here not tune below 22HZ??

Beat_Dominator
11-01-2005, 12:40 AM
My iDmax box is designed for 18hz tune...... now I just need to find some time!

adio
11-01-2005, 12:42 AM
My iDmax box is designed for 18hz tune...... now I just need to find some time!
time for what?

Beat_Dominator
11-01-2005, 11:54 AM
To build it!

swc204
11-01-2005, 12:10 PM
what about an RLP
matters what size of room....but i threw my TC 9 driver in my house for a while and it got the jub done nicely....id say use that or the rl-s if you have the money......pm soundsplinter and ask about the rl-p

adio
11-01-2005, 12:44 PM
To build it!
oh :)

adam71
11-03-2005, 07:04 PM
Velodyne F-1000 from 1992. 80 watt amp and servo controlled. Very very sweet sounding woofer for music. It doesn't have the THUNDER needed for a HIGH impact home theater woofer but it does the job for the most part. 13 years later and I'm still very happy with it.:D

PV Audio
11-03-2005, 07:10 PM
i don't like servos...

adam71
11-03-2005, 07:11 PM
i don't like servos...

Why?? I think it makes the bass very accurate as opposed to muddy or boomy. Atleast that is what I noticed with my sub right away.

PV Audio
11-03-2005, 07:13 PM
they just don't keep up when you need lots of output

adam71
11-03-2005, 07:17 PM
they just don't keep up when you need lots of output


I've never had that problem. But thats probably because it only has an 80 watt amp and I've never tried to get 500 watts worth of sound out of it.:)

adio
11-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Velodyne F-1000 from 1992. 80 watt amp and servo controlled. Very very sweet sounding woofer for music. It doesn't have the THUNDER needed for a HIGH impact home theater woofer but it does the job for the most part. 13 years later and I'm still very happy with it.:D
wow!!!!!!:crazy:

slick316
11-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Servo controlled subwoofer make a huge difference in the accuracy of sub bass output, its easily noticeable in movies.
I went to a little seminar they had at a local Hi-Fi store. They had a rep from Velodyne demonstrate the difference between a non servo controlled woofer, and there Digital Drive series. One of the movies demo'd was Jurassic Park, the scene where the T-Rex first appeared, when you hear and FEEL its every step. With the non servo sub, the bass rumbled along long after the T-Rex took its step, while with the Digital Drive, each step had a nice "thump" and that was it, until the next step. Its hard to explain, but it was noticeable.
**** I want that Velodyne DD.

PV Audio
11-03-2005, 10:48 PM
Servo controlled subwoofer make a huge difference in the accuracy of sub bass output, its easily noticeable in movies.
I went to a little seminar they had at a local Hi-Fi store. They had a rep from Velodyne demonstrate the difference between a non servo controlled woofer, and there Digital Drive series. One of the movies demo'd was Jurassic Park, the scene where the T-Rex first appeared, when you hear and FEEL its every step. With the non servo sub, the bass rumbled along long after the T-Rex took its step, while with the Digital Drive, each step had a nice "thump" and that was it, until the next step. Its hard to explain, but it was noticeable.
**** I want that Velodyne DD.
:rolleyes:

if ANYTHING, and ESPECIALLY JURASSIC PARK, the servo subwoofer should be crying compared to the normal one. he's a velodyne rep, what do you expect? i wouldn't take a servo vs a regular for the world when it comes to HT. there is no comparison and even the guy who owns one (adam71) recognizes this too. however, they COULD be considered cleaner for music i guess or smaller setups, but when it comes to outright shaking your children bass, a servo comes in second.

adio
11-03-2005, 11:47 PM
:rolleyes:

if ANYTHING, and ESPECIALLY JURASSIC PARK, the servo subwoofer should be crying compared to the normal one. he's a velodyne rep, what do you expect? i wouldn't take a servo vs a regular for the world when it comes to HT. there is no comparison and even the guy who owns one (adam71) recognizes this too.
well, u should tell adam to get his asscheeks in here and tell us his opinion on his plate amp. sounds very intersting

slick316
11-04-2005, 10:36 AM
well, it sounded great compared to the non-servo sub, thats all that matters to me. If I can buy a Paradigm Servo 15 for $1500 that wont distort at its maximum output of 120db, I am happy (then again, I would be happy to first have a place where I can play a sub that loud).

PV Audio
11-04-2005, 11:28 AM
Velodyne F-1000 from 1992. 80 watt amp and servo controlled. Very very sweet sounding woofer for music. It doesn't have the THUNDER needed for a HIGH impact home theater woofer but it does the job for the most part. 13 years later and I'm still very happy with it.:D
;)

PV Audio
11-04-2005, 11:29 AM
well, it sounded great compared to the non-servo sub, thats all that matters to me. If I can buy a Paradigm Servo 15 for $1500 that wont distort at its maximum output of 120db, I am happy (then again, I would be happy to first have a place where I can play a sub that loud).
um, show me stats that this woofer puts out 120 dbs?

adam71
11-04-2005, 12:50 PM
:rolleyes:

and even the guy who owns one (adam71) recognizes this too. however, they COULD be considered cleaner for music i guess or smaller setups, but when it comes to outright shaking your children bass, a servo comes in second.


I'm NOT so sure I would say it comes in second. I think its a matter of taste for the most part. When I said it didn't have the THUNDER is was talking about rumbling of big movie soundtracks. I relocated my servo sub into the corner of my basement after doing a remodeling and now the sub is much more efficient and it hits incredibly hard now. Its amazing how moving a sub can make such a huge difference. Does it have THUNDER now? Not as much as I'd like but its alot closer to what I want now. But that is due to its 10" woofer and little 80 watt amp, NOT because its a servo controlled sub. Servo-controlled subs come in alot of different sizes and power ranges now. I would take a servo sub over a conventional sub just for the accuracy alone, even if that meant it wasn't going to be as loud. When it comes down to it, how loud does a HT sub really have to be. If you have an accurate servo sub that is plenty loud, why would you want anything different.?? I listen to alot of music on my system and I couldn't imagine having a loud and muddy inacurate non-servo controlled sub trying to keep with fast transients that are present in modern jazz.

Just my input. In short, I think it depends on what you're looking for a sub to do. If "loud" is all you need then NO reason to get a servo sub. If you're looking for accuracy as well then servo is the way to go.:)

PV Audio
11-04-2005, 01:10 PM
i am speaking from a graphical standpoint. sure, you might not need more, but you don't need more than a 15" xxx in ur car, but some people have six ;) I have heard many velodynes and they make your ears bleed with the clarity, but when put up against a fine regular sub, they don't stand up (HT). my opinion though, taste determines everything.

adio
11-04-2005, 01:30 PM
i am speaking from a graphical standpoint. sure, you might not need more, but you don't need more than a 15" xxx in ur car, but some people have six ;) I have heard many velodynes and they make your ears bleed with the clarity, but when put up against a fine regular sub, they don't stand up. my opinion though, taste determines everything.
and to piggyback off of you, i read many reviews where subs had 150 - 300 watts from a regular plate amp and they got good reviews ( there were alotta sealed subs too)

adio
11-10-2005, 09:17 PM
bumposity

HiAmplidude
11-10-2005, 09:34 PM
I'm running both:

Polk RM 7000 series dual 10" side-firing 365W for the upper-end of sub bass, and a DIY 3 Cu. Ft. sealed enclosure with MB Quart Premium 15" DVC car audio driver for the uber-lows, on a 250Watt PartsExpress plate amp.

I could probably get away with eliminating the Polk powered sub altogether, but it's so accurate in the range it can handle. The Quart 15 picks up the uber-low end and subsonic that the Polk can't. Works well, and I have a pretty large HT room to fill.

edit: Oh, and I'd rate it 7.5 of 10 since there's clear room for so called "improvement". I've seen HT sub setups that are mind boggling (entire basements used as enclosures with 16+ gigantic subs horn ported into the listening area, for example). But the sound balance for my system and money/space/time invested, puts this performance easily on the upper-end of the chart for me. If the rating was limited to something acheivable by most people, I'd give it a clean 9 of 10.

adio
11-11-2005, 07:26 PM
I'm running both:

Polk RM 7000 series dual 10" side-firing 365W for the upper-end of sub bass, and a DIY 3 Cu. Ft. sealed enclosure with MB Quart Premium 15" DVC car audio driver for the uber-lows, on a 250Watt PartsExpress plate amp.

I could probably get away with eliminating the Polk powered sub altogether, but it's so accurate in the range it can handle. The Quart 15 picks up the uber-low end and subsonic that the Polk can't. Works well, and I have a pretty large HT room to fill.

edit: Oh, and I'd rate it 7.5 of 10 since there's clear room for so called "improvement". I've seen HT sub setups that are mind boggling (entire basements used as enclosures with 16+ gigantic subs horn ported into the listening area, for example). But the sound balance for my system and money/space/time invested, puts this performance easily on the upper-end of the chart for me. If the rating was limited to something acheivable by most people, I'd give it a clean 9 of 10.
:)

ss3079
11-11-2005, 07:35 PM
Unfortunately, my HT sub is in my car :(

Both the Shiva's or Uber could work, though.

My towers are good enough for me right now. When I do step it up, it'll likey be with the uber, some gigantic enclosure, and 2400 watts.

PV Audio
11-11-2005, 11:20 PM
you crazy man you :)

adio
11-12-2005, 12:51 AM
you crazy man you :)
x 2

adio
11-20-2005, 12:15 AM
bumpies

adio
11-24-2005, 12:17 AM
bump!! we're not done, we want more opinions!!!!!!!!!

davidfre21
11-24-2005, 12:18 AM
RE SE 8 :up2somet:

nothing built yet but it shall get some duty

Moe Lester
11-24-2005, 01:10 AM
RE SE 8 :up2somet:

nothing built yet but it shall get some duty

ha maybe nothing will EVER get built :naughty:

davidfre21
11-24-2005, 01:11 AM
ha maybe nothing will EVER get built :naughty:
true

adio
11-24-2005, 03:05 AM
true
:( don't let it be true! :(

joetama
11-27-2005, 04:04 AM
Best home theater subs for the money are MartinLogan. I have th baby dynamo and everyone that hears it if floored. i personally rate it about a 9.4 maybe a 9.5 on a good day. it'll do down below audible range they say it specs out somewhere in the 20's of the top of my head, but with TrueRTA and the digital outs on my computer (192kbs) you could still feel down to about 18Hz before it crapped out and just started moving air. Also working on getting a EVX-180B pro audio 18 for extended bass drum sounds.

adio
11-27-2005, 05:45 AM
Best home theater subs for the money are MartinLogan. I have th baby dynamo and everyone that hears it if floored. i personally rate it about a 9.4 maybe a 9.5 on a good day. it'll do down below audible range they say it specs out somewhere in the 20's of the top of my head, but with TrueRTA and the digital outs on my computer (192kbs) you could still feel down to about 18Hz before it crapped out and just started moving air. Also working on getting a EVX-180B pro audio 18 for extended bass drum sounds.
:) thanks, EE

adam71
11-28-2005, 02:49 AM
Martin Logan, Velodyne, B&W, Klipsch and Sunfire all make great subwoofers in my opinion.

adio
11-28-2005, 02:18 PM
Martin Logan, Velodyne, B&W, Klipsch and Sunfire all make great subwoofers in my opinion.
sorry i keep comin back to this, but what sub do you have? and in your opinion, what makes the choices above great subs??

Beat_Dominator
11-28-2005, 02:23 PM
Krell Master Refrence pwns all.

HondaPh00l
11-28-2005, 02:41 PM
Ive got a B&W asw 2500. Its ok, it could definitely be louder but it serves my needs for watching movies so...


Alex

JimJ
11-28-2005, 02:48 PM
Personally, I think a subwoofer is the perfect DIY project for a home system...I think that many of them are overpriced and you don't have quite the level of complexity in a subwoofer that you have in a set of main channel speakers.

For $1000, you can build one hell of a powered sub setup...

For pre-built stuff, I'd say Adire had the best deal going with the Rava...:)

thylantyr
11-28-2005, 03:26 PM
bump!! we're not done, we want more opinions!!!!!!!!!

DIY

or

buy the Everest

or clone it
http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~acoustic/products/subwoofers/pre_finished/pinnacle_index.shtml

Also working on getting a EVX-180B pro audio 18 for extended bass drum sounds.

Extended in which direction, HF or LF ? If HF, I have the woofer for you.

RE: EV
I used EVX 18" woofers in 1988-1992 in my van. Since then these woofers have been in
storage and recently I checked them out, the foam is rotted. Examining these
woofers closely it's obvious they are no match for what is offered in today's market,
not worth the penny to recone them so I dumped them in the trash. :)

adam71
11-28-2005, 04:23 PM
Personally, I think a subwoofer is the perfect DIY project for a home system...I think that many of them are overpriced and you don't have quite the level of complexity in a subwoofer that you have in a set of main channel speakers.

For $1000, you can build one hell of a powered sub setup...

For pre-built stuff, I'd say Adire had the best deal going with the Rava...:)


Get off Adire's nuts already.:uhoh:

j/k

The premade may be overpriced but I don't like fockin around when it comes to speakers, not even a sub so a DIY is out of the question for me. I listened to a 350 dollar Klipsch sub that had a 12" woof and 250 watt amp and it hit like a mack truck so i don't think it was overpriced for as nice as it sounded.

adam71
11-28-2005, 04:28 PM
sorry i keep comin back to this, but what sub do you have? and in your opinion, what makes the choices above great subs??

I have a Velodyne F-1000. Its a servo controlled 10" woofer with an 80 watt amp. It doesn't seem like it would be much but once I found the right placement for it in the corner I found myself lowering the volume on it.:)

I would say the others I mentioned are good just based on the mfgs reputations for making great products. I've heard all of them in showrooms even though thats not a true test it does give you an idea.

joetama
11-28-2005, 05:35 PM
Ive got a B&W asw 2500. Its ok, it could definitely be louder but it serves my needs for watching movies so...


Alex


I demoed the B&W and just didnt like how it sounded. Plus they are a bit expencive, that's why i went with the MartinLogan. Dont get my wrong i'm a B&W fanatic cause they sound so **** good, but thier subs just dont have the drive of the MartinLogan (I spell it with one word like they do on the boxes).

joetama
11-28-2005, 05:39 PM
bump!! we're not done, we want more opinions!!!!!!!!!

DIY

or

buy the Everest

or clone it
http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~acoustic/products/subwoofers/pre_finished/pinnacle_index.shtml

Also working on getting a EVX-180B pro audio 18 for extended bass drum sounds.

Extended in which direction, HF or LF ? If HF, I have the woofer for you.

RE: EV
I used EVX 18" woofers in 1988-1992 in my van. Since then these woofers have been in
storage and recently I checked them out, the foam is rotted. Examining these
woofers closely it's obvious they are no match for what is offered in today's market,
not worth the penny to recone them so I dumped them in the trash. :)

I got the Sub, i work for a pro audio company that is EV dealers. When Telex bought EV the guy who worked in the coils department quit and the qualilty when to hell in a hand basket. But Telex finally got him back and now the quality is good again. B&C is also making a good 18 with a 4" voice coil. Adamson, maker of some bad *** line arrays has a kevlar 21 in with a 6" VC that i have never heard but want to.

thylantyr
11-28-2005, 06:10 PM
The good news is; Monster woofers sell and there are plenty of people in the world competing in this market
offering good product to make cool DIY projects now. I see no reason to buy store bought subs. I went to the store and saw
a cheezy HT sub with a $2k sticker on it, looked like a toy for kids.

joetama
11-28-2005, 07:02 PM
The good news is; Monster woofers sell and there are plenty of people in the world competing in this market
offering good product to make cool DIY projects now. I see no reason to buy store bought subs. I went to the store and saw
a cheezy HT sub with a $2k sticker on it, looked like a toy for kids.


Many do look like toys for little kids. The problem is ppl who dont know like that "boom box" look and feel with lots of pretty lights that dont do anything.

adio
11-28-2005, 10:46 PM
Get off Adire's nuts already.:uhoh:

j/k

The premade may be overpriced but I don't like fockin around when it comes to speakers, not even a sub so a DIY is out of the question for me. I listened to a 350 dollar Klipsch sub that had a 12" woof and 250 watt amp and it hit like a mack truck so i don't think it was overpriced for as nice as it sounded.
can u remember what model that klipsch was?!!?!

adio
11-28-2005, 10:48 PM
I got the Sub, i work for a pro audio company that is EV dealers. When Telex bought EV the guy who worked in the coils department quit and the qualilty when to hell in a hand basket. But Telex finally got him back and now the quality is good again. B&C is also making a good 18 with a 4" voice coil. Adamson, maker of some bad *** line arrays has a kevlar 21 in with a 6" VC that i have never heard but want to.
the EV's ur talking about, are those the same speakers that hang on the walls at movie theaters??

filtor1
11-29-2005, 12:51 AM
I suppose I will chime in. I bought the 15" Titanic kit from PE. It does everything I need. Low end is glorious. Output is decent. I would love to go ported or try another sub/box combination as soon as I graduate or get some excess financial aid, hehe. I recently retuned everything using the mic and auto setup/tuning that the Yamaha RX-V2400 offers after moving to a new house(much bigger room). I absolutely love it. I only use it on occassion b/c I can't seem to get rid of the ground loop hum unless I unplug the Satalite, so the sub is used exclusively for movies and music. If I was going to stay in this house after school I may give some effort to resolving ground loop issue, but ehh, I am lazy. I will give it a 7-8 out of 10. It does everything I need and then has the ability to jump the sliding doors off track if I so choose to turn it up.

adio
11-29-2005, 01:15 AM
I will give it a 7-8 out of 10. It does everything I need and then has the ability to jump the sliding doors off track if I so choose to turn it up.
:veryhapp: jumping doors off track is stupendous!!!!!!!! thanks for chiming in. send more people.

filtor1
11-29-2005, 11:52 AM
Will do. In all fairness that happened only one time when running all of the speakers I have hooked up. I have 5 Boston CR-85's front/rear/center channels and for the occasional (I want to make it unconfortable) times I add the B channels and add the Cerwin Vega VS-120's to the mix. So it was the pair of 12's, 15" Dayton sub and the 5 7"s all at full tilt. The sliders are mirrored (no it is not my house) I love watching them unjulate at lower frequencies. Yes, I suppose I am addicted. ;) I saw someone selling some TC 18"s. I would love to add another 1000watt plate amp and put one of those to the test.

adio
11-29-2005, 11:16 PM
u know, i wonder if anybody has built an enclosure like SVS's PB2-Ultra Subwoofer http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_11_3/images/svs-pb2-ultra-subwoofer-rear-panel.jpg
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_11_3/svs-pb2-ultra-subwoofer-9-2004.html

i think this would kick ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL *** in ALL areas of listening for DIY subs.

Beat_Dominator
11-29-2005, 11:51 PM
Because it has 3 ports?

adio
11-29-2005, 11:58 PM
Because it has 3 ports?
not only that, you can stuff them and change the tuning

azbass
11-30-2005, 12:00 AM
thats pretty ill

Beat_Dominator
11-30-2005, 12:02 AM
....but if I build my own.... I can change the tuning......

adio
11-30-2005, 12:02 AM
thats pretty ill
ain't it?!?!!? did you read the review on it??

azbass
11-30-2005, 12:04 AM
not really

adio
11-30-2005, 12:05 AM
not really
:laugh:

adio
12-02-2005, 08:28 PM
more ppl please!! come on tell us; we like you

Oak244
12-03-2005, 09:30 PM
My HT Sub is from VMPS. I have the Original sub in Piano Black with the Mega woofers, improved wire, and interior sound coating. The sub has a single 12" Carbon woven woofer facing forward, with a Paper 15" Radiator facing the floor. On a scale of 1-10 I give it a 9.5! Only taking off for its size. Not all women would accept this table size woofer. In fact I now keep a blanket folded on top of it, as people tend to walk in and sit down on it lol! Musically it ROCKS! Many people use this woofer who use ribbon speakers, as this sub does better then most in keeping up with the fast ribbons. Its a must for Magnepan users. My woofer is tuned to 18hz, so as you can guess... It goes VERY low. I drive mine with a Bridged Rotel Amp that gives it around 400 Watts. I bought mine silightly used. They can be bought pre-made, with a kit but not assembeled, Or speakers and plan only, you build the cabinets yourself. The site is www.vmpsaudio.com I want their Tower speakers so bad, but need to get out of school and make better money lol

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Oak244/VMPSClose01.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Oak244/VMPSSub01.jpg

adio
12-03-2005, 11:12 PM
My HT Sub is from VMPS. I have the Original sub in Piano Black with the Mega woofers, improved wire, and interior sound coating. The sub has a single 12" Carbon woven woofer facing forward, with a Paper 15" Radiator facing the floor. On a scale of 1-10 I give it a 9.5! Only taking off for its size. Not all women would accept this table size woofer. In fact I now keep a blanket folded on top of it, as people tend to walk in and sit down on it lol! Musically it ROCKS! Many people use this woofer who use ribbon speakers, as this sub does better then most in keeping up with the fast ribbons. Its a must for Magnepan users. My woofer is tuned to 18hz, so as you can guess... It goes VERY low. I drive mine with a Bridged Rotel Amp that gives it around 400 Watts. I bought mine silightly used. They can be bought pre-made, with a kit but not assembeled, Or speakers and plan only, you build the cabinets yourself. The site is www.vmpsaudio.com I want their Tower speakers so bad, but need to get out of school and make better money lol

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Oak244/VMPSClose01.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Oak244/VMPSSub01.jpg
ok, now i remember from SI.net. now that you explained it a little better and showed an extra picture, it makes 200% more sense to me and looks alott better. i thought it was ugly as hell when you posted the pic on SI, but i didn't say anything cause it was all about how you judged the sound of it. 9.5 is killer man!!!!!!

UndercoverPunk
12-06-2005, 01:32 AM
B&W_EE's system sounds great BTW. ;)

adio
12-06-2005, 11:17 PM
B&W_EE's system sounds great BTW. ;)
how u know?

adio
12-07-2005, 07:27 PM
ttw= to the window

ballstothewall
12-07-2005, 08:41 PM
how u know?

I'm pretty sure they go to the same college...

adio
12-07-2005, 11:04 PM
I'm pretty sure they go to the same college...
oh :)

bri487
12-07-2005, 11:06 PM
my setup has a velodyne spl 10". out of 10 i would rate it 9/10. my dad has the gotham from JL. he was one of the first to have it supposedly. that thing is about a 15/10. he has somewhat of a full blown TV room/theater though.

Scoobydoo
12-08-2005, 01:19 AM
i have 2 12" subs in my HT, one has a mid 90's Orion Extreme SVC sub and the other is some random 12" that John from Stryke/Acoustic Elegance was nice enough to give me

i was powering them from a Dynaco 400 amp(300x2 at 4ohm), but the right channels seems to be "staticy" so i took them off that and am running them from a Proton AA-2080(120x2 at 4ohm)

they are underpowered so they dont sound as good as they did on the Dynaco, but i need to get it looked at before i use it again:(

adio
12-08-2005, 01:33 AM
my setup has a velodyne spl 10". out of 10 i would rate it 9/10. my dad has the gotham from JL. he was one of the first to have it supposedly. that thing is about a 15/10. he has somewhat of a full blown TV room/theater though.
:peace: :awesome: :peace: :peace: :peace: :awesome:

xxx.x dB
12-08-2005, 01:56 AM
:word: :word:

joetama
12-11-2005, 03:00 AM
the EV's ur talking about, are those the same speakers that hang on the walls at movie theaters??

They could be in some of the larger THX theaters. But they are mostly used in double 18 front loaded subs for concert reinforcement.

guitarslanger
12-11-2005, 09:46 PM
i just installed my brahma in my living room i think i was inspired by this thread...i have it in a 3 cube box tuned to i think 30 (i made the port wider then the original plans i dunno if that tunes it up or down) now that wouldn't seem like much (compared to what some of the people were talkin about in this thread) until i hooked up my pro audio qsc rmx 1450...it does 1400 watts at 4 ohms and boom its def loud enough for me, prolly gonna **** off the neighbors....i wish it was tuned a lil lower for home theater but the amp has a lpf set at 30hz so it doesn't matter i mostly listen to music so its rockin with my dads ole 1988 D-7 cerwin vegas providing tha mids and highs i'd give it a 7.5 out of 10

adio
12-11-2005, 09:51 PM
i just installed my brahma in my living room i think i was inspired by this thread...i have it in a 3 cube box tuned to i think 30 (i made the port wider then the original plans i dunno if that tunes it up or down) now that wouldn't seem like much (compared to what some of the people were talkin about in this thread) until i hooked up my pro audio qsc rmx 1450...it does 1400 watts at 4 ohms and boom its def loud enough for me, prolly gonna **** off the neighbors....i wish it was tuned a lil lower for home theater but the amp has a lpf set at 30hz so it doesn't matter i mostly listen to music so its rockin with my dads ole 1988 D-7 cerwin vegas providing tha mids and highs i'd give it a 7.5 out of 10
you get a :yes: for being inspired by the thread. i wish you coulda tuned lower for crushing sub bass. but at least you have it. congrats and thanks for contributing. tell more ppl to come here.

adio
12-12-2005, 08:07 PM
....but if I build my own.... I can change the tuning......
u can, but not if you have slot ports. with multiple pvc ports, you can. how about i'm just now seeing this reply!?!!?

trevor87
12-16-2005, 11:31 PM
I have 2 of these in my room 15"my aunt gave them to me they get really loud i wish i had the cash to build a real ported box for them. They are kinda old so i ordered replacement subs for xmas i hope they are just as loud.

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6512/sb151nb.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9208/158jc.jpg


Replacements i ordered think they will be as loud?
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-325

trevor87
12-16-2005, 11:31 PM
**** i feel noobish

PV Audio
12-16-2005, 11:35 PM
well they aren't subs, but i'm sure they'll slam :)

trevor87
12-16-2005, 11:47 PM
the ones in there now arent subs either and they have no surrounds lol dryrot and i already think they slam without the surrounds so you think ill notice improvement?

trevor87
12-16-2005, 11:48 PM
ok **** ******* dialup if you make me double post again ill rip your **** cord right out the wall

xxx.x dB
12-17-2005, 12:00 AM
^^ you have dialup to lol ^^?

Anyways here's my HT sub right at the moment

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/381/DCP_21282.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=DCP_21282.jpg)


I would give it a 8 out of 10 because it only has 300 watts going to it right at the moment.

trevor87
12-17-2005, 12:06 AM
nice box

xxx.x dB
12-17-2005, 12:09 AM
It;s kind of ugly isn't it. Some smart person put it outside while I was on a road trip last year :crap:

JimJ
12-17-2005, 06:25 AM
Was that box built for the driver? It's a huge port, 'tis why I ask that :)

Anyway, here's a photo of the Rava...

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/75/rava5am.jpg

trevor87
12-17-2005, 11:32 AM
^^^ NIce

adio
12-17-2005, 11:35 AM
^^ you have dialup to lol ^^?

Anyways here's my HT sub right at the moment

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/381/DCP_21282.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=DCP_21282.jpg)


I would give it a 8 out of 10 because it only has 300 watts going to it right at the moment.
how big is your box?? what is it tuned to?? what kind of wood is that too, hahahahahahah!!

adio
12-17-2005, 11:36 AM
Was that box built for the driver? It's a huge port, 'tis why I ask that :)

Anyway, here's a photo of the Rava...

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/75/rava5am.jpg
nice!!! now tell us about it and what rating would u give it??

trevor87
12-17-2005, 11:38 AM
the ones in there now arent subs either and they have no surrounds lol dryrot and i already think they slam without the surrounds so you think ill notice improvement?


still like to know what you think lol

adio
12-17-2005, 11:40 AM
i think there be an improvement. but i also wonder if you'll get better sound if u had better crossovers too, i don't know. maybe somebody can answer?

trevor87
12-17-2005, 11:44 AM
How i get better crossovers?

adio
12-17-2005, 11:46 AM
How i get better crossovers?
parts express

PV Audio
12-17-2005, 11:46 AM
make them ;)

trevor87
12-17-2005, 11:49 AM
but i mean what i do just buy them and hook them up and they give me more output or sq?

lol im gettin bass shakers with my order to just for fun

adio
12-17-2005, 11:52 AM
but i mean what i do just buy them and hook them up and they give me more output or sq?

lol im gettin bass shakers with my order to just for fun
they won't give you more output. but i would say a little more SQ cause of better crossover optionns, i'ma shut up i feel like i don't know what i'm talking about!!

adio
12-17-2005, 11:53 AM
Bought it, 188 watts RMS. 8-9.
bought what?

PV Audio
12-17-2005, 11:54 AM
Was that box built for the driver? It's a huge port, 'tis why I ask that :)
looks flared likea horn to me...but i dont know nothin!

adio
12-17-2005, 11:58 AM
Sub.
oh :). what sub? give a update man, i can't find where we started off talkin about this!

adio
12-17-2005, 12:03 PM
Ha, allright. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16836121120 I paid..275 for it a few months ago.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh :). and u like it that much that you gave it a 8-9/10 ?? wow!

adio
12-17-2005, 12:08 PM
Indeed. For buying one, I highly doubt you can find one with more power for the same price.
dats wassup

xxx.x dB
12-17-2005, 06:07 PM
Was that box built for the driver? It's a huge port, 'tis why I ask that :)

I should hope not, cause I built that box about 4 years ago whaen I didn't know much about box building and driver parameters. It's a back loaded horn by the way :uhoh:


how big is your box?? what is it tuned to?? what kind of wood is that too, hahahahahahah!!

It's around 7.5 cubes and the horn is tuned to 40 Hz. As for the wood it's mostly 1 inch water logged mdf :laugh: and 1 inch maple plywood.:D

I30 Boogie
12-19-2005, 10:25 AM
http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=E250P&cat=NRE&ser=NRE

JBL Northridge....I give it a 8.5 ....I love it! Paid $197 brand new from Deal-Stop.com.

Oh, forgot to add I am also running HTI 6.5" rears and 8" fronts along with a 3-way center (Northridge EC35). Everything is JBL.

adio
12-19-2005, 10:44 AM
http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=E250P&cat=NRE&ser=NRE

JBL Northridge....I give it a 8.5 ....I love it! Paid $197 brand new from Deal-Stop.com.

Oh, forgot to add I am also running HTI 6.5" rears and 8" fronts along with a 3-way center (Northridge EC35). Everything is JBL.
i read some pretty good reviews on that, but i think they were all from tom nousaine

slick316
12-19-2005, 06:04 PM
Just picked up my new sub today :)

http://slickssite.com/Velodyne%20DD-10/

dbhittin
12-19-2005, 06:10 PM
we got a velodyne.. it goes pretty low

adio
12-19-2005, 06:19 PM
Just picked up my new sub today :)

http://slickssite.com/Velodyne%20DD-10/
:eek: BEAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTY!!!

adio
12-19-2005, 06:20 PM
we got a velodyne.. it goes pretty low
GREAT!:rolleyes: . tell us about it, man!! what want a 1-10 rating for music and movies and what size box and how much power.

slick316
12-19-2005, 06:22 PM
I didn't get a chance to mess with the sub yet. Picked it up and went straight to work. I'm just sitting here, looking at it, I WANT TO PLAY IT **** IT!

bri487
12-19-2005, 06:23 PM
we got a velodyne.. it goes pretty low

i have one as well, the spl series. its a 10". i love it. it covers all the low end freqencies really well, and has decent output. my dad runs the JL gotham. ridiculous.

slick316
12-19-2005, 06:28 PM
i have one as well, the spl series. its a 10". i love it. it covers all the low end freqencies really well, and has decent output. my dad runs the JL gotham. ridiculous.

I didn't think the JL home audio subs were out yet. I heard from my JL rep that the Fathoms weren't out, but I guess that doesn't include the Gotham.

bri487
12-19-2005, 06:31 PM
I didn't think the JL home audio subs were out yet. I heard from my JL rep that the Fathoms weren't out, but I guess that doesn't include the Gotham.

we got ours through a home audio dealer. i think they came out officially to select certified dealers last quarter.

slick316
12-19-2005, 06:32 PM
we got ours through a home audio dealer. i think they came out officially to select certified dealers last quarter.

Nice. I bet that Gotham is INSANE!

bri487
12-19-2005, 06:35 PM
Nice. I bet that Gotham is INSANE!

it is truely ridiculous. he has a full blown home theater system though. i just have a system setup in the living room.

adio
12-19-2005, 06:48 PM
http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=123011&page=9

look at bri's response in the middle of the page regarding his dads jl's.

slick316
12-19-2005, 07:01 PM
it is truely ridiculous. he has a full blown home theater system though. i just have a system setup in the living room.

Out of curiousity, what else is in your Dad's HT setup. Sounds like its pretty ******.

bri487
12-19-2005, 07:17 PM
i know he has mcintosh/monitor sutff. i dont know what exactly. and for the tv, he should be getting a projector down the road sometime, but right now he has a 60" sony sxrd i think.

slick316
12-19-2005, 09:29 PM
Is your dad looking to adopt? I wouldn't even want money, just use of the HT every now and then :)

I love McIntosh stuff, too rich for my blood, but I will own a McIntosh product one day ;)

adio
12-24-2005, 01:03 PM
ttt

adio
12-30-2005, 09:37 AM
heeeeeeey joe, what chu doin with that sub in your crib?

http://forum.carstereos.org/t56106-p9-your-ht-sub.html

adio
01-06-2006, 01:34 AM
more ttt

PV Audio
01-07-2006, 03:00 PM
ttb

adio
01-08-2006, 08:58 AM
ttm

adio
03-13-2006, 10:40 AM
ttt

adio
03-13-2006, 10:40 AM
ttb
ttw

ighettoboyi
03-13-2006, 10:53 AM
i should have either a ported SS RL-I 8" or an id10v3 within two weeks for the bedroom. either will be ported and tuned to the low 20s...running off of a 300W bash plate amp... should take a fat dump on most of the subs at stores costing twice the price

ballstothewall
03-13-2006, 01:47 PM
Have an ED e8a.44, but it crapped out on me...

It was pretty **** awsome for a dorm room, going to either get it reconed or get one of the new RL-i 8" subs.

adio
03-13-2006, 04:16 PM
Have an ED e8a.44, but it crapped out on me...

It was pretty **** awsome for a dorm room, going to either get it reconed or get one of the new RL-i 8" subs.
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww:crying: . u were siked about that sub too

Darth Audio
03-13-2006, 04:41 PM
I'm using a JBL 1041 that was originally in my old Honda. I've got it in a 1.75ft tuned @ 24hz. I'm using a 150 watt plate amp that is on clearance at MCM. It took a lot of modeling to come up with a design I could live with since this sub was definitely optimized for automotive use. But it paid off, this sub is awesome! It mostly sees HT use but it sounds almost as good with music. Musically speaking I would have went with a sealed box but I doubt Jurassic Park or U-571 would have been the same!

ballstothewall
03-13-2006, 05:11 PM
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww:crying: . u were siked about that sub too

I was, and let me say that this thing fricking pounded for a sealed 8". I am goning to try to get it reconed though, cause that should be cheaper than buying a RL-i 8, but then it probably won't be a flatcone anymore :crap:

Just waiting on the email back to see about the recone

-Ryan

tRiGgEr
03-13-2006, 05:18 PM
Soon to ba RL-i10:D

foreman
03-14-2006, 01:02 AM
As soon as i' get back from the military, i'm building my fonts and center, and running two of these.....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=277042
And don't laugh, read the reviews:cool:

PV Audio
03-14-2006, 09:24 PM
I heard an Rl-i 8 this weekend in like 1.5 cubes tuned to 33 in home, and it was the most surprising bass I've ever heard in my entire life.

adio
03-14-2006, 09:52 PM
I heard an Rl-i 8 this weekend in like 1.5 cubes tuned to 33 in home, and it was the most surprising bass I've ever heard in my entire life.
33hz??!!! wow, what was powering it?