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srt4geezer
10-10-2005, 01:18 AM
Most of the box is 3/4 MDF. The top & front are Fiberglass. I reall have no idea what I am doing, just trying to follow guides from this site. I made the wood part to fit in the trunk nice & tight. I used liquid nails in every joint for a good bond/seal & coarse wood screws. Of course I siliconed every wood inseam as well.
Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated. So far so good. I have resin'd the fleece & that turned out well. I have also done 2 layers of glass that I don't have pics of yet.
One thing I have to point out is that I went all the way down the sides & back of the MDF with resin then a thin layer of glass. I plan on bondo'ing these for paint as well. The only part that won't be painted is the bottom.

The frame. Lot's of angles. Hopeful that won't hurt performance:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/Box2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/Box1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/Box4.jpg

Then I suspended the rings:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/Box5.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/Box6.jpg

With Fleece stretched:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/BoxwFleece.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/BoxFleece3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/BocFleece4.jpg

bimma85
10-10-2005, 01:23 AM
Looking good, lets see some more pics :D

azbass
10-10-2005, 01:27 AM
id not use chop stick dowls and hot glue any more, the resin while hardning will bend it outta shape, next time use pices of wood angled to prop the rings up, screw em in place. will be more sturdy for the resin process. looks great tho!!

oh and a tip. lay the fiberglass on the inside not the out side, its messy, but will make a better finish on the out side :)

btnhfan
10-10-2005, 01:48 AM
Looks good.

Starky
10-10-2005, 01:50 AM
id not use chop stick dowls and hot glue any more, the resin while hardning will bend it outta shape, next time use pices of wood angled to prop the rings up, screw em in place. will be more sturdy for the resin process. looks great tho!!

oh and a tip. lay the fiberglass on the inside not the out side, its messy, but will make a better finish on the out side :)


Sure it may come out better, but thats a royal ***** to do.....just lay the fiberglass on the outiside, much much easier...and a bunch of sanding will take care of any F*cks ups that may happen....though your box there should be easy to lay glass on, pretty simple, no small nooks to and what not, should be simple

Psyence
10-10-2005, 02:09 AM
Very, Very nice. For a first time that is excellent. Id give it an A!

More pictures!

ramos
10-10-2005, 08:58 AM
Looking good brother man, It's gonna be a beeyatch to sand in between the subs there. Looks kinda like sub cleavage :D :)

ruckus
10-10-2005, 09:02 AM
looks good, kinda looked like me on that pic of you LOL.

shouldnt say you used liquid nails too loud around here. They dont like that around here :D

ruckus
10-10-2005, 09:04 AM
Looking good brother man, It's gonna be a beeyatch to sand in between the subs there. Looks kinda like sub cleavage :D :)

******* :eek:

THUNDERBIRD
10-10-2005, 09:58 AM
looks good. i agree with its gona be hard sanding between the cleavage. what i did when i layed my glass was alternate the direction i layed the glass, dont know if it matters much but it seamed like it could give it a little more strength

ramos
10-10-2005, 01:10 PM
looks good. i agree with its gona be hard sanding between the cleavage. what i did when i layed my glass was alternate the direction i layed the glass, dont know if it matters much but it seamed like it could give it a little more strength


That it does my brother. You should always alternate bias ( direction ) 90 degrees every layer. It will increase the strength, and overall rigidity. :)

srt4geezer
10-10-2005, 01:32 PM
I will be building up most of the "cleavage" so hopefully it won't be too difficult. I will get some more pics up soon. I used mat for the first couple of layers. I am using some 2.5 ounce cloth for a couple smooth layers. I thought about using some 6-8 ounce cloth to strengthen on the inside of a couple key spots. Once it feels titanium strong, I will do the Bondo thing. Never Bondo'd anything before. Hope it goes well.

So my box design looks good? The angles aren't going to be a problem?

ramos
10-10-2005, 01:46 PM
I don't see any problems with the angles. How ya gonna cover it ? Paint, vinyl, a nice lacey bra :D Just messing with ya man, looks good :)

srt4geezer
10-10-2005, 02:01 PM
It's going to be painted auto metallic Blue

ramos
10-10-2005, 02:04 PM
Nice, Look forward to lotsa sanding my brother. Lotsa sanding :)

AVSTANG02
10-10-2005, 02:58 PM
after you glass it do you break off the ring supports??

if they are peices of wood screwed in how would you go about removing the supports?

ruckus
10-10-2005, 04:36 PM
after you glass it do you break off the ring supports??

if they are peices of wood screwed in how would you go about removing the supports?

generally you leave the inner section of the rings in (not cut out yet) then you mount a 2x4 to the center by screw and screw the other end of the 2x4 to the box. Once you glass just unscrew both ends and cut out the center. fiberglass holds the rings in there.

THUNDERBIRD
10-11-2005, 11:17 PM
if they r not in the way leave them in thats what i have done

406er
10-11-2005, 11:25 PM
looks like a chics clevage

jellyfish420
10-11-2005, 11:37 PM
if they r not in the way leave them in thats what i have done
exactly! i wouldn't leave the dowels in, cause i wouldn't want one to break. but if you use pieces of wood and screw them in, leave them there. they make excellent reinforcement.

ruckus
10-12-2005, 07:44 AM
if they r not in the way leave them in thats what i have done
count them in when calculating displacement then or if you do that in a ported box your tuning is off.

NhustlaR
10-12-2005, 02:47 PM
ha youre a pro already ;) good look so far. lets see some more pics

Pimpdaddyq
10-12-2005, 11:16 PM
Hey just wanted to put my opinion on this. I think your design looks awesome, especially for the first time! I have still yet to complete my first fiberglass box, It is still sitting in the garage, for about the past month, need to finish sanding. Kind of put it off because of the crap-a$$ job I did. But all in all a great job, and just like everyone else, I have expecting another update with some pics!! Good luck!!

Andrew

HowLowd
10-13-2005, 09:52 PM
looks very good. Really clean and professional cuts, great wrap job as well.

XtrmAudioCncpts
10-13-2005, 09:55 PM
looks awesome so far lets see how the glass looks on it

req
10-13-2005, 09:58 PM
chopsticks always work well for me :p:

as long as you do a good jorb with them they work fine.

and the center area is a bit steep, id of tried to make the inner brace the same height as the baffles there - but i do like the slanted back\sides. it looks sweet.

im waiting for more pictures for sure :D

Shyne151
10-13-2005, 11:35 PM
I would of used thicker dowels, but other than that looks sweet.

srt4geezer
10-25-2005, 06:20 PM
UPDATE::

I have been traveling for work the last 2 months so that really limited my time for the box. Here is what I did the last couple days. Any thoughts would be great.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0125.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0127.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0128.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0129.jpg

Gotta lot of sanding to do tonight.

80INCHES
10-25-2005, 06:29 PM
wow.....u aint lying

80
look at it like this...atleast u will get a good work out

mobileaudio219
10-25-2005, 11:00 PM
Looks awesome, keep us update with lots of pictures.

Race
10-25-2005, 11:32 PM
Very nice! Looks great :)

Psyence
10-26-2005, 08:03 AM
For a first timer, thats absolubtly great! Looks like a professional job really.

Keep up the good work!

MORE PICS PLEASE ;)

ramos
10-26-2005, 08:15 AM
Looking good brother man, looking good. :)

DBfan187
10-26-2005, 12:53 PM
Gotta lot of sanding to do tonight.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1953869&sourceid=18019579953474895250


you'll thank me later.;)

XtrmAudioCncpts
10-26-2005, 12:54 PM
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1953869&sourceid=18019579953474895250


you'll thank me later.;)
:laugh:

ramos
10-26-2005, 12:56 PM
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1953869&sourceid=18019579953474895250


you'll thank me later.;)


Wus, real men sand by hand :D , Of course most of them don't use that much bondo either :)

DBfan187
10-26-2005, 03:14 PM
that sander is like gods gift to men, maybe some women too.

ruckus
10-26-2005, 03:25 PM
that sander is like gods gift to men, maybe some women too.
the man that comes out with an electric version of the glassman used da sander will be a millionaire ;)

srt4geezer
10-27-2005, 01:04 AM
OK, I took it to the paint guy. I don't have enough time to get it GREAT. It looks OK. For my first time I think it turned out decent. It is not good enough to go with a dark color so I am going with metalic silver. Even with that it is kinda rough. If I had more time before SEMA I would spend more energy on it. Thanks for the support guys. I will post a couple pics when I get it back. If anyone is at SEMA, look for me in the Morrete USA booth. North Hall.

I put a crazy thick layer on in the pics cuz there were some pretty high spots with the Glass & I wanted the flexability to sand as I please to shape certain areas. I spent a bunch of time sanding with power sander & 100 grit disc. I did 2 thin layers after the one fat one. For anyone thinking of trying one of there, IT IS HARD! You have to be prepared to put in a ton of time. At least if you want something nice. I should have started smaller & worked my way up. That being said, it was a great learning experience. It will be a while before I try that again.

btnhfan
10-27-2005, 02:20 AM
Wus, real men sand by hand :D , Of course most of them don't use that much bondo either :)

I like the sanding block much better than elec sander. I think its more exact and you can get more off using the block.

NhustlaR
10-27-2005, 10:29 AM
with the block theres a lot more room for error, you get that electro or pneumatic going and watch out, one bad move and youre back to rebondoing :blush: i need to get some flex disks for my pneumatic, anyone know if they sell them? but good job for your first box bro

the_noob
10-27-2005, 07:19 PM
that sander is like gods gift to men, maybe some women too.

:word:

Its so soft on my hands:inlove:

Btw, it was only $40 at Home Depot. That Wal-Mart price is way too high.

smullen
10-28-2005, 02:33 AM
Looks cool... I dig looking at other peoples Progress pics!!!

Maybe I missed it... Whats going in this???

How did you calculate your space???

DBfan187
10-28-2005, 12:19 PM
:word:

Its so soft on my hands:inlove:

Btw, it was only $40 at Home Depot. That Wal-Mart price is way too high.Eh, I couldn't find a good pic of it, so I linked it. I got mine @ walmart for $37.68;)

srt4geezer
10-28-2005, 01:59 PM
Well, I'm running mostly MA Audio setup. I am using a Fosgate to run the 6.5 separates (Model: MA629C). 2 Mono amps (MA Model: HK1000D's), One for each of the 2 12" (Model: MA1200XL). These will be in the box. They are Chromed.
As far as space, well, I kinda guessed. It will probably be a tad on the small side. Oh well.

srt4geezer
10-28-2005, 05:56 PM
I know this gear isnt the best, but it will work for now. I may upgrade the subs sooner than the rest.

srt4geezer
10-30-2005, 11:41 AM
OK everyone. Thanks for the help & advice. Here is the finished product. LOT'S of WORK!. Just got it back from the Paint guy & threw it in the car. What do you think??

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0103.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0104.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0105.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0107.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0109.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0110.jpg

folgrz
10-30-2005, 12:02 PM
wow that looks SICK!!!!!

truckstoy
11-01-2005, 08:29 AM
looks great!!!!!!!1

ramos
11-01-2005, 08:37 AM
Very nice brother man. That's incredible be it your first or otherwise, very nice job. :)

Omarvelous
11-01-2005, 10:03 AM
That gets the STAMP of approval. Now....... time for YOU to do.... MY box!! lmao.

azbass
11-01-2005, 10:09 AM
that looks awsome

Loudrango112
11-01-2005, 10:17 AM
Amazing man... simply GREAT work!

fuzzai
11-01-2005, 11:12 AM
wow. VERRY NICE!

Eugenics
11-01-2005, 11:43 AM
hot digity ****... great job

XtrmAudioCncpts
11-01-2005, 11:45 AM
looks awesome

TooLowTooGo
11-01-2005, 12:03 PM
that **** looks F*ckin SICK man..

great work!

ruckus
11-01-2005, 12:49 PM
very nice look on it man nice job.

req
11-01-2005, 12:58 PM
congratulations. good idea to take it to a vereran painter. usually paintjorbs by newbies come out looking like pooh smeared all over :)

the ONLY thing i dont like about your box, is that middle crack,

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0105.jpg

i wish it was smoother and more of a 'conformed' curve between the speakers. but a **** nice looking box anyway.

many props :)

PV Audio
11-01-2005, 01:02 PM
absolutely stunning for the first time, no words describe it

ruckus
11-01-2005, 01:37 PM
congratulations. good idea to take it to a vereran painter. usually paintjorbs by newbies come out looking like pooh smeared all over :)

the ONLY thing i dont like about your box, is that middle crack,

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/srt4geezer/IMG_0105.jpg

i wish it was smoother and more of a 'conformed' curve between the speakers. but a **** nice looking box anyway.

many props :)
dont knock the **** clevage ;)



or butt crack

DBfan187
11-01-2005, 02:25 PM
*** & ******* combined?

ruckus
11-01-2005, 02:37 PM
*** & ******* combined? flip it ;) one way up it looks like clevage, the other way it looks like plummers crack