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cykario
10-04-2005, 11:33 PM
Hey guys I have a 73 Ford Maverick (big car) and I'm going to buy the MB Quarts PCE210 comps for the front, but what about the rear fill (deck)? Should I buy another set of components like the PCE216 or should I look for "top notch" coaxials? I have a 4 channel amp 50rms front, 100rms rear. Txs.

SSS 18734
10-04-2005, 11:36 PM
I really couldnt comment on the MB Quarts, but CDT's and the Pioneer REV series coaxials are also very solid-sounding coaxials.

Echo42987
10-04-2005, 11:37 PM
Just buy the same rears....IMO Equal sound all around

SSS 18734
10-04-2005, 11:41 PM
wait... did you say your amp provides double the power for your rears taht it does for the fronts? what amp?

cykario
10-05-2005, 12:25 PM
So should I buy the Mb Quarts PCE216 for the rear? The amp is a LA strike s2.500.4.

camry_tuner
10-05-2005, 12:37 PM
get coax's in the back, its only for rear fill, u dont want to pull back the sound stage

XtrmAudioCncpts
10-05-2005, 12:39 PM
or you could save some money and not get a rear fill at all. i guess it would be ok since you do have a big car

cykario
10-05-2005, 09:39 PM
Please guys, tell me then some good coaxials for the rear fill in the $400-$450 price range. Txs.

cykario
10-05-2005, 09:53 PM
OR what about using the PCE216 as coaxials?

RoudyruffKK
10-05-2005, 10:03 PM
coaxials in the rear off the headunit is fine, you don't want it to be heard up front

cykario
10-05-2005, 10:17 PM
what about using the PCE216 as coaxials? I'm a newby so this is a silly question....Do I need a cap? I think it's good to have one since I have an old car, but you're the experts here!

Blunt
10-06-2005, 12:09 AM
what about using the PCE216 as coaxials? I'm a newby so this is a silly question....Do I need a cap? I think it's good to have one since I have an old car, but you're the experts here!


NO

Eugenics
10-06-2005, 01:06 AM
coaxials out back, never ever buy a cap

99StangGt
10-06-2005, 02:27 AM
Please guys, tell me then some good coaxials for the rear fill in the $400-$450 price range. Txs.


Wow that is A LOT of money for rear fills. I am going to use some ID CXS64s for my rears in my pickup and they were half of that price and the are seperates. I am going to try a little 50w per channell amp on them for fills.

Eugenics
10-06-2005, 02:33 AM
you're missing the point of rear fill, its simply a suplement, you dont want it to overpower the fronts. If you have that money in the budget for speakers, spend it on the fronts and dont spend more then 150 on coax's

99StangGt
10-06-2005, 02:45 AM
you're missing the point of rear fill, its simply a suplement, you dont want it to overpower the fronts. If you have that money in the budget for speakers, spend it on the fronts and dont spend more then 150 on coax's


X2 , I am only using mine because they are laying around the garage

flakko
10-06-2005, 03:07 AM
Please guys, tell me then some good coaxials for the rear fill in the $400-$450 price range. Txs.

DOOD thats some money even for frontstage (yea i know its chump change for you hardcore audiophiles) but i would reccomend rainbow. cant go wrong with them!

cykario
10-06-2005, 11:27 AM
I think I'm going to buy the Mb Quart PCE210 for the front, or tell me another 4" component set please. BTW txs for all the repplies! This a great forum! What should I look for the rear fill then? and BTW, why not a cap?, are they that bad?

r1dermon
10-06-2005, 12:47 PM
exactly, the rears are not your soundstage, the front is what you'll mostly be hearing for mid-high range. and a subwoofer will take over the really low stuff. the rears are just there, but you dont want to notice them, you want the focal point of the music being right at your ears. by putting in overpowering speakers in the rear, its going to pull the soundstage back and it wont sound as good, or as realistic. honestly, i'd switch that amp around, 100w to the front and 50w to the rear. and get a nice sq/sql sub with that 400 bucks. you can get rediculous 6x9 boston coax's for 399, but they're going to take over your system. you want the comps to do the work.

r1dermon
10-06-2005, 12:48 PM
holy cow man, go with 5 1/4 or preferably 6 1/2 comps...you'll be MUCH MUCH MUCH happier. invest in a dremel if they wont fit stock.

cykario
10-06-2005, 10:24 PM
Perfect guys I'll buy 5 1/4 for the front and I'll make or buy custom kick panels, but what about the cap? Why don't I need it?

Eugenics
10-06-2005, 11:54 PM
if your gonna make your own kick panels go ahead and get the 6.5's

scrappy
10-07-2005, 02:12 AM
Yeah 6.5s. I beleive he is askingabout the mb because they have it where you can mount the tweeter on the mid to make a coax. If thats what you are saying get the refernce series less money wont need as much power and wont pull sound stage backwards. I was looking at that exact same set up at first

Eugenics
10-07-2005, 02:13 AM
theres alot of speakers you can do that with (well... in a similar way). if you have kicks you dont have to worry about that anymore

scrappy
10-07-2005, 02:21 AM
Yeah there is alot of speakers that can do that but then it does make it a coax mb doesnt make coaxialsbecause of that

Eugenics
10-07-2005, 02:25 AM
im confused

scrappy
10-07-2005, 02:33 AM
why? mb quart doesnt make high end coaxials because you can mount the tweeter directly to the mid making it a coaxial. The only coaxial they make is the discus line wich is the very bottom they have the reference, premium and q lines. From the refernce up they recommend using the component set mounting the tweeter on the mid making it a coaxial. I am talking about using it for rear fill and still running it as a component set up front. hence the use of the pro series up front and the refernce series in the back

Ignatowski
10-07-2005, 06:12 AM
pics of the Mav?
73 mavs were slick,we use to run one with an 750HP blown 351:up2somet:

cykario
10-07-2005, 01:23 PM
Hey txs guys for all the repplies, but what about the Cap question? Why don't I need it?

cykario
10-08-2005, 06:22 PM
so...... Why don't I need a cap if I have an old car?

scrappy
10-08-2005, 08:11 PM
The cap doesnt do anything. Get the big 3 upgrade and a new battery and you will be good. The only thing a cap is really good for is looks in a show install

r1dermon
10-08-2005, 08:17 PM
until you're pushing 1000 wattsrms, you wont need a cap...

scrappy
10-08-2005, 09:10 PM
until you're pushing 1000 wattsrms, you wont need a cap...
I have over 1600 rms and still dont have a cap. I used to and it looked cool in my install but thats about it.

cykario
10-08-2005, 10:21 PM
Txs guys! =)

r1dermon
10-08-2005, 10:41 PM
well, its a good rule to go by with subs which draw 1000wrms. it can help with headlight dimming every time the sub hits. not "necessary", but good to have.

cykario
10-09-2005, 01:26 PM
Well guys, I'll say it once again! This is a great forum! Txs for everything!

volonau
10-14-2005, 03:44 PM
Mav's are rattle old small cars. Mb's 216's like perfect installs to sound good.Not recomended.

cykario
10-15-2005, 02:55 PM
So......What should I get?

cykario
10-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Mb Quart Q-line?

cykario
10-16-2005, 01:38 PM
Anyone?

scrappy
10-16-2005, 03:02 PM
You could always just sound deaden really well. That is recommended with any high end speaker anyways. I like dls personally. You could go with up6 or ur6 in front and 226 coaxials in back or just stick with what I recommended in the beggining

cykario
10-17-2005, 04:39 PM
What do u think about these speakers?

dynaudio 240MKII??? Are they good?

scrappy
10-18-2005, 01:29 AM
I have never heard them personally but dynaudio has a good repution. You prbally wouldnt regret it if you did get those. I take it you still plan on building kicks for that 7" mid?