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fancynapkin
10-01-2005, 03:44 PM
Im going shopping today, and its either wood glue w/ silicone caulk to seal, or use all the money on gorilla glue (its pricey), so Im wondering if gorilla glue will seal well enough to not have to use silicone?

NhustlaR
10-01-2005, 03:46 PM
use whatever you want...if the gorilla glue leaks, youll have to get silicone...I run a bead of silicon anyways, just to do it ;)

btnhfan
10-01-2005, 03:50 PM
Dont use gorilla glue.

Use wood glue, then seal up with inside with silicon.

PatFitz9
10-01-2005, 03:55 PM
i am not sure about the price of silicone, but i think home depot has gorilla glue for like 6 bux a bottle...

Rattlebrain
10-01-2005, 04:03 PM
Just use a good wood glue and silicone to seal the inside.

.::DuD3::.
10-01-2005, 04:19 PM
gorilla glue will definately seal it though. i used gorilla glue, but also went back with silicone just for an extra seal on my box, but imo it was overkill.

btnhfan
10-01-2005, 04:24 PM
Dont use gorrila glue.

It is not the proper application.

Gorilla glue expands and can mess up the fitment of the pieces.

Wood glue would hold much better.

fancynapkin
10-01-2005, 04:25 PM
alright wood glue and silicon it is. Good, because gorilla is a ***** on your hands.

Rattlebrain
10-01-2005, 04:26 PM
alright wood glue and silicon it is. Good, because gorilla is a ***** on your hands.
Good choice. :thumbsup:

fancynapkin
10-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Good choice. :thumbsup:

yeah, the expanding gets really annoying after a while too, makes things very messy.

ruckus
10-01-2005, 04:35 PM
I use construction adhesive and silicone. works better than glue IMHO and each about $3 a tube

amedeuce
10-01-2005, 04:43 PM
I use construction adhesive and silicone. works better than glue IMHO and each about $3 a tube
not better than wood glue

PhatTonyDeMarco
10-01-2005, 04:44 PM
not better than wood glue


Agreed. Only original wood glue will form a true chemical bond between the wood, it will make the box last much longer and add so much more support at the joints.

ruckus
10-01-2005, 04:52 PM
well considering its fiberboard and the construction adhesive I use says for use with fiberboard on it and since I have used both. I will stick with it ;) my box weights over 90lbs with my subs and I walk around with it holding 1 handed and it doesnt have a problem staying together even with all the weight stress. I cant say ive had the same expierience of a wood glued box.

jujumantb
10-01-2005, 04:57 PM
well considering its fiberboard and the construction adhesive I use says for use with fiberboard on it and since I have used both. I will stick with it ;) my box weights over 90lbs with my subs and I walk around with it holding 1 handed and it doesnt have a problem staying together even with all the weight stress. I cant say ive had the same expierience of a wood glued box.
I dont think you understand.... wood glue forms a CHEMICAL bond... MUCH stronger than gorilla glue... by ALOT. Not saying gorilla glue cant hold a box together, it will, but wood glue is the best option. Talk to anyone that knows about construction, they'll tell you wood glue.

PowerNaudio
10-01-2005, 09:12 PM
i have been using gorilla glue for the longest.
if i don't use gorilla glue. i use polyester resin.

PV Audio
10-01-2005, 11:03 PM
titebond>GG

fancynapkin
10-01-2005, 11:19 PM
titebond>GG

yeah, I got tightbond 2. GG was 18$ compared to tb which was 6$.

AznRevlAzn
10-01-2005, 11:42 PM
i use gorilla glue and coarse screws on all my enclosures, no problem here :D

PV Audio
10-02-2005, 12:02 AM
told y'all bout the custom titebond III blend...

anyway, use ^^^ + PrimeTec 1 5/8" drywall screws here

PV Audio
10-02-2005, 12:02 AM
delete plz

Buckshot
10-02-2005, 01:42 PM
delete plz

F-You man!!11!11!1!1!one

Brads, and Elmers here... :greedy:

...

Unless I get a stubborn prick, then the drill and the coarse DW screws get used.

ruckus
10-04-2005, 06:11 PM
I dont think you understand.... wood glue forms a CHEMICAL bond... MUCH stronger than gorilla glue... by ALOT. Not saying gorilla glue cant hold a box together, it will, but wood glue is the best option. Talk to anyone that knows about construction, they'll tell you wood glue.
I never said anything about gorilla glue ;) you did, I understand what they are aying I was saying what I(not taking peoples words for it) expierienced with a certain construction adhesive that I used compared to wood glue. never did I say anything about gorilla glue. :crazy:

tRiGgEr
10-04-2005, 06:17 PM
Dude if you had a box fall apart constructed with wood glue, It was poorly constructed...

Johnny Drama
10-04-2005, 06:20 PM
When I was 12 I used a glue stick and nails...didnt work too well.

I say tightbond and silicone

ramos
10-05-2005, 10:11 AM
Actually your comparing apples to oranges here my brothers. Gorilla glue, titebond, and and any of the assorted other brands of glue are just that, glue. Silicon caulk or sealant on the other hand is a sealant. Two different applications for two different products. Most glues say it right on the bottle somewhere for bonding purposes only not for filling gaps :)

mikescanlon
10-05-2005, 11:25 AM
When I was 12 I used a glue stick and nails...didnt work too well.

I say tightbond and silicone



lol at that.
how long did it hold up.. long enough to get it in the car?

got pictures?

i bet it looked real good. :laugh:

skeptikal
10-05-2005, 02:16 PM
Njack2AF used gorilla glue for his XXX box, i know i helped him build it ;P. Seemed to work ok, he didnt have any complaints of leaks or anything

And the expansion of it won't make a difference on the piece fitting, that's what the screws are for...

That sh*t does **** tho, you can't get it off of your skin. once it dries, your skin goes with it lol.

I would suggest wood glue & silicone though, wood glue forms creates a chemical bond in the wood and the silicone will seal up the inside. The gorilla glue is just an extremely strong adhesive.

brad
10-05-2005, 02:24 PM
Wood glue creates a chemical bind that is usually stronger than the wood itself.

PV Audio
10-05-2005, 07:53 PM
thanks for that bit ramos :)

and yes, gorilla glue isn't a dedicated wood glue anyway thus most carpenters use wood glue when makign their items :)

iamamp3pimp
10-06-2005, 07:13 AM
I've done it all, and in the end, Fiberglass resin with a layer of mat in the corner, while being overkill, keeps everything in place, seals the box quite well, and smells like ***....


Works for me.

Espically when working with hybrid glass wood boxes, nothing holds all those pieces togerher with the rings than the resin-mat combo...