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iceteebone
09-11-2005, 11:06 PM
i currentl have a pioneer premier 860. i used to have an eclipse 8443. well i just didn't like the controls on the 8443, so i got the 860 and i love the controls on the 860 but the quality isn't up to par with the 8443. it doesn't play stracthed cd's well. some stock decks play sctratched cd's better then the pioneer. the 8443 played every cd i owned perfectly, but i didn't like the controls, especially the sub control. after using both, i really don't need all these features. some simple high pass/low pass crossovers will do, and a small graphic eq. also need atleast 3 rca's. not looking to spend alot. not sure what deck to look into.

iceteebone
09-11-2005, 11:42 PM
what do you guys think about this deck? http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/3923 i figure it's so cheap since it's refurbished and last years model but how does that compare to pioneer? i know it probably doesn't have the quality as an eclipse but what do you guys think about it? also the way i take it, it has 6 channel rca's? that would be nice since i'm running a 6-channel amp and a subwoofer amp.

Spr0ket
09-12-2005, 12:55 AM
I would put Clarion before Pioneer when it comes to quality (craftsmanship and sound). That's me though.

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 01:01 AM
I would put Clarion before Pioneer when it comes to quality (craftsmanship and sound). That's me though.


from what i've dug up on a search, alot of people like clarion and put them ahead of pioneer. i guess for the price it can't be beat. it has everything i want plus 6 channel rca's but what ***** is no high pass filter :crap: i was thinking of adding a external 3-way xover though.

laidback93
09-12-2005, 05:49 PM
When I bought an 90 Accord back in 98 it came with a Clarion Pro Audio deck and I absolutely hated it! I immediately pulled my Pioneer deck out of my other car and slapped it into the Accord. I've always bought Pioneer decks and never had any problems with them at all.

Now I don't know how the new Clarion decks are.

What about Alpine? I always hear good things about them and I really liked the one my buddy had.

bamaboy
09-12-2005, 06:29 PM
what happened? i thought u would keep your 860 for a while since you thought it was really good, i still want something different

but dont know yet a dxz955 looks awsome and the jvc av looks cool but eclipse looks to complicated

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 09:13 PM
i like the deck, but it doesn't seem to have the sq that my eclipse had. i like the controls and everything, but almost all my cd's skip on this deck. i thought my cd's were really ****ed but when my car was in the shop, i drove a 2000 impala and the stock deck played my cd's with no problem. i already made my decision. i went and got that dxz745. i never used the features on my 860 anyways.

cooper1513
09-12-2005, 09:25 PM
go rockford fosgate amazing, contol high volt outputs, easy mp3 manipulation. cant go wrong with rockford fosgate decks

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 09:26 PM
go rockford fosgate amazing, contol high volt outputs, easy mp3 manipulation. cant go wrong with rockford fosgate decks


i already bought the clarion and high volt preouts don't mean a thing to me :)

cooper1513
09-12-2005, 09:28 PM
that cheap one you linked to earlier

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 09:30 PM
that cheap one you linked to earlier


yup. just because something is cheap doesn't mean it's bad. it's cheap because it's a 2004 model and refurbished. new it went near $300.

cooper1513
09-12-2005, 09:32 PM
sorry, you miss understood me, cheap was a compliment, i buy for as cheap as i can. great head unit.

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 09:34 PM
sorry, you miss understood me, cheap was a compliment, i buy for as cheap as i can. great head unit.


i also bought an external crossover. i never used time alignment and i always set my eq to flat, so i really don't need something with a lot of bells and whistles so i think this deck along with my crossover will do me very nicely.

bri487
09-12-2005, 09:46 PM
i would get an alpine 9847. i can guarantee the build quality will meet that of your eclipse. i have owned that 8443, it is a good deck. dont go new eclipse, the build quality seemed to fall off a little. if you still arent happy with the SQ of it, i would run an EQ.

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 09:57 PM
i would get an alpine 9847. i can guarantee the build quality will meet that of your eclipse. i have owned that 8443, it is a good deck. dont go new eclipse, the build quality seemed to fall off a little. if you still arent happy with the SQ of it, i would run an EQ.


for some reason i have never had the desire to use an alpine deck. i already placed the order for the clarion so i'll see how that works for me.

Bake
09-12-2005, 09:58 PM
post your thoughts when you get it installed. I just installed an 845 with a sirius tuner. I got them both for $202.00 used. The sirius tuner has service so I assume the guy had a contradt that he didn't bother canceling. It seems like a well built unit but it does clip the signal at the upper end of the volume scale. That is something I was not accustomed to with my old Eclipse.

DBfan187
09-12-2005, 10:00 PM
Congrats on that sweet deck.

outboard processing = teh pwn!

What's the xover?

bri487
09-12-2005, 10:00 PM
for some reason i have never had the desire to use an alpine deck. i already placed the order for the clarion so i'll see how that works for me.

why is that? just dont like something about them?

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 10:01 PM
post your thoughts when you get it installed. I just installed an 845 with a sirius tuner. I got them both for $202.00 used. The sirius tuner has service so I assume the guy had a contradt that he didn't bother canceling. It seems like a well built unit but it does clip the signal at the upper end of the volume scale. That is something I was not accustomed to with my old Eclipse.


pioneer's generally clip at about 30 out of 50 volume. at first i'm only gonna hook to stock speakers because i have nothing else installed. my eclipse i used to run at 75 out of 80 :)

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 10:01 PM
Congrats on that sweet deck.

outboard processing = teh pwn!

What's the xover?


coustic DX-28. i bought it from squeak.

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 10:03 PM
why is that? just dont like something about them?


there's something about them. it seems like people either love them or hate them. not alot of people run clarion where i live. i always have to be different :)

DBfan187
09-12-2005, 10:06 PM
sweet!

I got an XM3-e xover myslef. Been sitting in front of me on the desk for the past 6months now. lol

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 10:08 PM
i got a whole pile of crap that needs to be installed that's taking up space in my room. :crap:

bamaboy
09-12-2005, 10:41 PM
my pioneer only went to 40 i thought? or does it go to 50. i swear the little meter looks like 40 when i put it on half way at 20

Bake
09-12-2005, 11:15 PM
pioneer's generally clip at about 30 out of 50 volume. at first i'm only gonna hook to stock speakers because i have nothing else installed. my eclipse i used to run at 75 out of 80 :)


a clarion 845 not pioneer

iceteebone
09-12-2005, 11:34 PM
my pioneer only went to 40 i thought? or does it go to 50. i swear the little meter looks like 40 when i put it on half way at 20


it might. i never went passed 30. i've just read that's where they start to clip so i never went passed 30.

yoshima123
09-14-2005, 02:53 AM
Clarion 745mp was one of my first decks, it was a great deck. Played all my burned and eff-ed up cds with no problem, SQ and built quality is on par with eclipse. I actually perfer that clarion model to a eclipse cd5444. you got a great deck and a good price, the deck is def. worth alot more.