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snb778
09-10-2005, 06:57 PM
Hey guys, just though id post some pics of my first fiberglassing project ever. I think its goin pretty well so far, since it is kick panels, Im having some troubles, but the hard part is yet to come when I have to actually make the enclosure for them. My EBRAKE is in the way, so I dont know if im going to have to take it off or not. I think it would just make things easier. Im sure the bracing for the speaker ring is going to be the hardest part here, but hey ill give it a shot. Gotta learn how to do it sometime right...


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1872/dcp06444fz.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp06444fz.jpg)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4558/dcp06455ii.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcp06455ii.jpg)

skeptikal
09-10-2005, 07:02 PM
believe me mine didnt start off too well either, basically a poor design but they ended up coming out ok ;P. All I can really tell you is take your time on them...

e-brakes are for wussies ;P

iagrdshaka
09-10-2005, 07:05 PM
i want to see the finished product..

snb778
09-10-2005, 07:17 PM
E-Brakes are for people who like having fun in the snow ;-) thats why I want to keep it...but i might not have an option, I would have to position the rings almost perfectly to keep it. Especially with the mounting depth on these Type R's

req
09-10-2005, 07:41 PM
question-

did you glass OFF from your existing kick panels?

snb778
09-12-2005, 01:28 AM
well, i masked it all off first, but yea.

DiamondFanatic
09-12-2005, 01:43 AM
Yeah I started on my Kick's today too, need a home for my Hex's before they get here hopefully this week.

snb778
09-12-2005, 01:46 AM
yea, my shiznit is supposed to come in this week to (actually last week) im getting very impatient

DiamondFanatic
09-13-2005, 01:18 AM
Finished the shape of my kicks today, I'm going to carpet them tomorrow probably. I'll post pics with the rest of my finished system. Let me know how your stuff turns out

snb778
09-16-2005, 06:51 PM
Updated some pics here, Just added the bracing and made the speaker rings today. Unfortunately, im sad to say that yes, I did have to get some help on it, like cutting out the holes so the magnets would fit, and needed proper tools to make the supports such as a saw, and the glue.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/2316/kick16gj.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kick16gj.jpg)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5093/kick29kc.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kick29kc.jpg)

snb778
09-16-2005, 10:55 PM
anyone...?? comments, suggestions, blodder?

mikescanlon
09-17-2005, 06:40 AM
take your time... they look okay for your first project... just take your time

VERY nice wood cutting on there though... make sure you get all the bubbles out while you fiberglass, it'll make it smoother and less sanding later.

check for clearance with your speakers.. that support looks really close to the inside of the speaker ring for the component.

dont forget to run wires into it : )

Starky
09-17-2005, 11:46 AM
yea make sure you have enough depth to fit your speakers in...Those look like they're gonna be mighty small

Alpineinstaller
09-17-2005, 11:52 AM
its looking good, keep it up

snb778
09-17-2005, 12:02 PM
eeh im gonna knock out the supports anyways after I glass it. I just have to wrap it, glass it, and carpet it....maybe vinyl, we'll see

snb778
09-21-2005, 08:02 PM
Got em wrapped, gonna glass em tomorrow. Do I have to put Fiberglass matt on top of this first. The material is just like mesh speaker grill material, so I dont know of that will be strong enough.

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/6135/kicks3vq.th.jpg (http://img302.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kicks3vq.jpg)

Starky
09-21-2005, 08:04 PM
Resin (w/hardner) that ***** now!....Better to get that part done right now, let it dry over night, and then apply the mat tommorow


and use LOTS AND LOTS of resin

snb778
09-21-2005, 08:37 PM
wait wait, so cover it all in resin, then apply a second layer with fiberglass matt???

Starky
09-21-2005, 08:43 PM
Yea, cover it with resin....let it dry and harden, after it hardens, Put mat on it....you know how to put mat on it?..... take a peice, lay it on the Kick, then take a paint brush, dip it in resin and jab at the Mat, untill its soaked with resin (translucent almost) and continue to do so all around the kick, until you have as many layers you want... 2 or 3 layers is all you really need for Kicks

Classick96
09-21-2005, 08:50 PM
Yea, cover it with resin....let it dry and harden, after it hardens, Put mat on it....you know how to put mat on it?..... take a peice, lay it on the Kick, then take a paint brush, dip it in resin and jab at the Mat, untill its soaked with resin (translucent almost) and continue to do so all around the kick, until you have as many layers you want... 2 or 3 layers is all you really need for Kicks

Also i have found that it is better to do one layer, let it dry and do another layer, its easir to spot the bubbles that way. Glassing is all about patience, sanding and more sanding...

















And more sanding..

Starky
09-21-2005, 09:02 PM
you probably have more experience then I do....so go with what he said

bigwheel15
09-21-2005, 09:09 PM
Looks like they are coming along nicely, id like to see what the finished product looks like. Good luck and keep it up.

req
09-21-2005, 10:07 PM
imo, id get it all done, sand the sides down smooth, and see if it flexes. id pour some resin on the inside - maybe try and put some matte down on the inside, and see if it flexes. if it still flexes, get some nice thin (like 3~6oz) WEAVE cloth, and first coat the pod with resin, lay the cloth down, then cover that with resin until it becomes translucent.

do that wherever the panel flexes. but you dont need it to withstand TONS of pressure, because tis just a 6.5" speaker at most right?

id be more worried about somone actually kicking or steping on it while entering the car than it not being strong enough for the speaker :p:

Starky
09-21-2005, 10:26 PM
imo, id get it all done, sand the sides down smooth, and see if it flexes. id pour some resin on the inside - maybe try and put some matte down on the inside, and see if it flexes. if it still flexes, get some nice thin (like 3~6oz) WEAVE cloth, and first coat the pod with resin, lay the cloth down, then cover that with resin until it becomes translucent.

do that wherever the panel flexes. but you dont need it to withstand TONS of pressure, because tis just a 6.5" speaker at most right?

id be more worried about somone actually kicking or steping on it while entering the car than it not being strong enough for the speaker :p:


If you regularly fiberglass something 2-3 layers you should be fine, it shouldnt flex after that much at all, I can stand (180 pounds) on my Kicks, and they're only 2-3 layers

req
09-21-2005, 10:29 PM
but the need for 2-3 layers is in all likelyhood very unnessicary for a pair of mids if you understand me.

Starky
09-21-2005, 10:44 PM
you saying thats actually to much?...I like to be safe...I know 1 layer can hold speakers...but can it take a kick?

req
09-21-2005, 11:07 PM
i did a pair of kicks with just one layer of fleece, and then i poured resin inside.

i had to bash them with a sledgehammer to get the tweeters out.

it was NOT easy. so yes. i think kicks can be remarkably strong with just a little material, because they are so small.

Starky
09-22-2005, 12:04 AM
No mat?....I'd put at least one layer one...none is really pushin it

snb778
09-22-2005, 02:00 AM
fleece is A LOT!! thicker than mesh material. Alright, Ill do 1 layer of mats, then 1 more layer of fiberglass and that should be good. Yea, they are 6 1/2's type R's.

MetalMaxima
09-22-2005, 03:42 AM
I would actually recommend just sanding down the kicks and then pouring a 50/50 mix of resin and body filler over the kicks. This will fill in the majority of the dips and pits, plus it will be much easier to sand and paint. That will give you the extra stength you need PLUS give you a much easier working surface.

MetalMaxima
09-22-2005, 03:42 AM
No mat?....I'd put at least one layer one...none is really pushin it

With a comment like that, it is quite obvious you have never dealt with fiberglass before. :furious:

Starky
09-22-2005, 08:30 AM
no....i Have, its just from where I learned (online tutorials)....they've always used Mat for kick's....mmmmmkay?

snb778
09-22-2005, 12:00 PM
I would actually recommend just sanding down the kicks and then pouring a 50/50 mix of resin and body filler over the kicks. This will fill in the majority of the dips and pits, plus it will be much easier to sand and paint. That will give you the extra stength you need PLUS give you a much easier working surface.


Now that sounds like a good idea.

snb778
09-22-2005, 12:13 PM
goin out to do it now