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pwnt by pat
08-15-2005, 11:38 PM
So I got a new car and the horns don't fit. The only way they can fit is if I do some major dash modifications which I'm not going to. The motor sits too far into the kicks to mount the 6.5s. So, eventually I'm going to sell the horns.

I want to keep my beals 'cause I love 'em. I want to put them into kicks and lose the 6.5's too. I thought about looking for a 3" midrange and tweet combo to run active, or find a decent fullrange. No matter what way I run, I'll be running active.

From what I'm told, the Beals really sing upto about 450. Randomly the other day, I stumbled across a link to a fullrange 4.5" driver that will cover me from 450-20k with a slight dip in response at about 7k.

http://www.creativesound.ca/pdf/CSS-FR125-intro.pdf

They're 150 a pair so price wise they look really good however I can't find and RMS values. My Rub604 allows 150wrms@8x4 so I have plenty of wattage to throw at them. Other than RMS, what could I expect output wise? If a sealed kick doesn't have enough output, I can probably do some kind of vented kick using pvc tubing if I needed to. I could also probably get a second set (two 16ohm's to run at 8) and seal 'em up.

So.. RMS? output? suggestions?

pwnt by pat
08-17-2005, 04:54 PM
anyone?

JimJ
08-17-2005, 05:00 PM
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=51

That's the place to go if you want to know about the CSS full range drivers...

squeak9798
08-17-2005, 05:26 PM
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=51

That's the place to go if you want to know about the CSS full range drivers...

:word:

Those guys have analyzed them upside down and inside out.

Justintoxicated
08-17-2005, 06:07 PM
You guys are probably going to laugh case I know nothing about the speakers mentioned but I did hear there is a full range version of this available

http://www.acoustic-visions.com/~acoustic/products/subwoofer_drivers/exodus_wr125/

It looks the same is it?

JimJ
08-17-2005, 06:11 PM
The FR125 is the full range version of the WR125.

-JB
08-17-2005, 06:22 PM
I think the FR can do the job for you. I have a pair of WR's and was extremely surprised by them. If you get them aimed right I bet you won't have a problem getting them to do what you want. They don't need too much to get going in any environment.

pwnt by pat
08-17-2005, 06:22 PM
Well, I'm really starting to like the way the fr125s' are looking. I think I might try two pair on each side with the Id 6.5's in kicks and see what comes of it.... after I sell what I don't need of course.

edit, the jordan JX92S' look amazing too but at over 200 per 4" I just can't swing it.

OlogyAudio
08-17-2005, 06:34 PM
Well, I'm really starting to like the way the fr125s' are looking. I think I might try two pair on each side with the Id 6.5's in kicks and see what comes of it.... after I sell what I don't need of course.

edit, the jordan JX92S' look amazing too but at over 200 per 4" I just can't swing it.
these are both in the same class... however the problem with larger diamater speakers is that they BEAM!!! go 15 degrees off axis even and the highs go pfft in a hurry... point them both right at your head though and you are golden...

JimJ
08-17-2005, 06:34 PM
Yeah, but Jordans are the no-holds-barred, balls-to-the-wall driver if you have the amplifier power for them :)

Too much power needed for me, though...

JimJ
08-17-2005, 06:36 PM
however the problem with larger diamater speakers is that they BEAM!!!

With a phase plug, up to 8" drivers can be used with good results...I've heard 8's with suitable mods have killer off-axis response. Stock, they sound "shouty" as hell, though.

pwnt by pat
08-17-2005, 11:13 PM
jordans: http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/prod145.htm

rms 50, music 100. us price 260 per driver. If I could afford four, I would but I can't. I am feeling pretty set on two fr125's per side with the id 6.5

fossil99ca
08-18-2005, 08:01 AM
I do own a pair. They dont need that much power. I did see a graph saying that 30 watts is about as much power as you need to give them. I do not know thier thermal limit.