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ls1pimp
08-05-2005, 10:05 PM
Right now i have an Alpine CDA 7893, and i hate it, it has a 2 band eqaulizer, no Midrange control at all, just don't like it one bit, i can barely tune it correctly. I can get an Eclipse 5444 (brand new) for 220, should i go for this? Also, will this HU be better than my Alpine in terms of being able to customize the sound? My Alpine also sounds very very harsh. Rap sounds ok, but it is almost impossible to set it so the correct amount of bass comes out the speakers, it just sounds very messed up. With rock, the vocals blend in to the instrumentals and you can't hear any lyrics. Will I be happy with the Eclipse 5444?

ls1pimp
08-05-2005, 11:11 PM
Im gonna throw the 5425 and the 5435 into the mix too. BTW i don't listen to MP3 CD's, just my ipod.

iceteebone
08-06-2005, 12:08 AM
save up your money for an 8443/8053/8454. i thin you'll be much happier with one of those.

faulkton
08-06-2005, 01:40 AM
save up your money for an 8443/8053/8454. i thin you'll be much happier with one of those.

X2. I picked up a 8454 BNIB for $329 shipped about a month ago on ebay. Last weekend i saw a 8053 at a local auth retailer for $399, not sure if it was the display or BNIB tho.

99StangGt
08-06-2005, 04:06 AM
Depends on what you need it for. If what you need is a EQ and a simple time delay then go for it. If you need or will want actice crossovers and more advanced time delay and PEQ then get the 8454

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 01:57 PM
Depends on what you need it for. If what you need is a EQ and a simple time delay then go for it. If you need or will want actice crossovers and more advanced time delay and PEQ then get the 8454


I don't need anything crazy, just wanan be able to change the midrange levels, which i am unable to do right now, and have a "loud" setting, among other EQ stuff.

iceteebone
08-06-2005, 02:01 PM
I don't need anything crazy, just wanan be able to change the midrange levels, which i am unable to do right now, and have a "loud" setting, among other EQ stuff.


so you pretty much want a larger EQ? a pioneer 8600 comes to mind. could be had cheaper then the eclipse. imo after using both an eclipse 8443 and pioneer 8600, the pioneer is right up there with the eclipse imo.

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 02:19 PM
so you pretty much want a larger EQ? a pioneer 8600 comes to mind. could be had cheaper then the eclipse. imo after using both an eclipse 8443 and pioneer 8600, the pioneer is right up there with the eclipse imo.
I also want it to have a particular "sound" to it. My ALpine has a very tinny and high sond to it, not rich or robust at at all. All the Pioneer HU's ive heard, even with chitty speakers sounded very robust sounding, full and rich. I heard an Eclipse yesterday and it sounded similar to my Alpine. You think i would be happier with Pioneer? I HATE whispy sounding HU's like my Alpine is, the Pioneer's ive heard have been very solid and rich sounding, not weak and whispy like my alpine.

iceteebone
08-06-2005, 02:22 PM
I also want it to have a particular "sound" to it. My ALpine has a very tinny and high sond to it, not rich or robust at at all. All the Pioneer HU's ive heard, even with chitty speakers sounded very robust sounding, full and rich. I heard an Eclipse yesterday and it sounded similar to my Alpine. You think i would be happier with Pioneer? I HATE whispy sounding HU's like my Alpine is, the Pioneer's ive heard have been very solid and rich sounding, not weak and whispy like my alpine.


it sounds like you are. i had a pioneer 8600, got an eclipse 8443, used for a few months, but missed my pioneer so i sold it and got an 860. i'm just a pioneer fan. probably will never run another brand of deck again.

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 02:25 PM
it sounds like you are. i had a pioneer 8600, got an eclipse 8443, used for a few months, but missed my pioneer so i sold it and got an 860. i'm just a pioneer fan. probably will never run another brand of deck again.


Every Pioneer ive heard ive loved, they just have a very different sound to them. The Eclipse I heard remindeds me of my Alpine, and I don't think thats a great sign. :uhoh:

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 02:27 PM
Any Pioneer and Eclipse people please chime in!

iceteebone
08-06-2005, 02:29 PM
Any Pioneer and Eclipse people please chime in!


if you liked the sound of the pioneer, and wasn't to hip on the sound of the eclipse, i think the choice is simple. if you do go pioneer i recommend you get the premier 860 just because it has a 3-way crossover and is only like $10 more.

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 02:32 PM
I get very very heavy discounts off of Pioneer at my work, i could pick up a P8600MP or
DEH-P80MP for around the same price as the 5444. Should i go for those instead? I like tons of midbass and very full and robust sound, not tinny and whispy.

iceteebone
08-06-2005, 02:35 PM
I get very very heavy discounts off of Pioneer at my work, i could pick up a P8600MP or
DEH-P80MP for around the same price as the 5444. Should i go for those instead? I like tons of midbass and very full and robust sound, not tinny and whispy.


i would. getting robust sound has to do with more then just a headunit.

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 02:40 PM
i would. getting robust sound has to do with more then just a headunit.

Yeah i know that. I have CDT EF 61 tw/24's amped from a ed Nine.2, and my friend has a low end Pioneer HU w/ cheap Pioneer coaxils and no speaker amp, and I like how his sounds much better than mine. :crap:

ls1pimp
08-06-2005, 03:03 PM
bump

Justintoxicated
08-07-2005, 01:52 PM
I like my CD5444 I heard some of the CD5443's pop when they turn on.

I'm just trying to figure out the memory stick. Eclipse HU's sound the best to my ears, so I finaly purchased one and I am very happy, I liked the older alpines too, but I like eclipse more. Pioneer would be my second choice for new HU's and older HU's it would be alpine. I don't have any scientific proof of which is better but the eclipses always sounded the best and felt the most solid to me, I'm not a fan of their new ones but I would still get one over other new HU's probably for SQ.

Yes Rap has SQ.

The CD5444's auto time alignment works great for me, but this may vary from vehicle to vehicle.

In Advanced mode you ahve an EQ where you can take pre-set EQ's, use them or modify them and assign them to memory buttons buttons, You can also use the active crossover to cut lower frequencies from the speakers, and it also has a woofer controll. You have to understand how to use the features they are all well explained in the manual.

This thign delivers SWEET sound, my only gripe is there is no pause button, only a mute button. I tend to switch it to radio, then hit mute instead. Kinda annoying but I still love the HU

ls1pimp
08-07-2005, 02:31 PM
I like my CD5444 I heard some of the CD5443's pop when they turn on.

I'm just trying to figure out the memory stick. Eclipse HU's sound the best to my ears, so I finaly purchased one and I am very happy, I liked the older alpines too, but I like eclipse more. Pioneer would be my second choice for new HU's and older HU's it would be alpine. I don't have any scientific proof of which is better but the eclipses always sounded the best and felt the most solid to me, I'm not a fan of their new ones but I would still get one over other new HU's probably for SQ.

Yes Rap has SQ.

The CD5444's auto time alignment works great for me, but this may vary from vehicle to vehicle.

In Advanced mode you ahve an EQ where you can take pre-set EQ's, use them or modify them and assign them to memory buttons buttons, You can also use the active crossover to cut lower frequencies from the speakers, and it also has a woofer controll. You have to understand how to use the features they are all well explained in the manual.

This thign delivers SWEET sound, my only gripe is there is no pause button, only a mute button. I tend to switch it to radio, then hit mute instead. Kinda annoying but I still love the HU


Well the pause button doesn't affect me, i listen to my Ipod all the time anyway. Does it have a mini jack input in the back?

Justintoxicated
08-07-2005, 02:44 PM
It does have an aux in it is attached with a cable, but I don't think it is a digital AUX input...

I'm the opposite, I oculd care less about having an IPOD when I can put 100's of MP3's on a CD for alot less money.

The eclipse is more of an audiophile HU, MP3's just don't saound as good as the real CD's IMO, however I often listen to them cause it's easier than changing CD's

unrealii
08-07-2005, 08:36 PM
The eclipse is more of an audiophile HU, MP3's just don't saound as good as the real CD's IMO, however I often listen to them cause it's easier than changing CD's
Use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) with LAME at 192k and you will barely be able to tell the difference.

unrealii
08-07-2005, 08:39 PM
I like eclipse's sound. When I was shopping for my 8454, I had to compare an 8443 to a pioneer 860. I liked the eclipse so I went with it. I dont know if it is possible for you to try out the eclipse without buying it. However, if it is't much of an upgrade over your alpine (I'm not familiar with your model), I'd say to save your money and buy something better later on rather than make a small upgrade now.

Justintoxicated
08-07-2005, 09:54 PM
I can tell a difference at 192, it's harder at 320, but I swear in some songs I can still hear a difference, although not much and not manyh songs.

justsayk
08-21-2005, 02:27 AM
I love my cd5444. Hasn't skipped once in six months, perfect sound, and nice plain display. My only gripe is that the volume button is kind of hard to turn and it takes a lot of turning to get from volume 30 (my min) to volume 60 (my max). I plan on keeping this unit for a very long time.