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flakko
07-26-2005, 12:27 AM
After a month of drivin around with these speakers sitting on the floor, i finally got around to glassing my Rainbows in. This is what ive done tonite so far:

Heres a pic of what it used to look like:

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/2699/glassin017zo.jpg

A little before shot:

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/8148/glassin028qu.jpg

All the tape and stuff:
http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/9950/glassin030wv.jpg

And done for the night leting it dry (do i need another layer?):

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/9117/glassin041bt.jpg

Now my only problem was the taping... i didnt put foil and stuff underthe tape. I hope everythings okay underneath the tape :(

but overall looks okay to me.

will keep u updated! :D

req
07-26-2005, 12:30 AM
um.

why are you putting them on the SIDE of the car like that? they should be put in the corner under the deadpedal where the plastic foot thing is... or at least as close up to that part as possible...

i guess its looking good so far tho.

jacko
07-26-2005, 12:31 AM
thought the same thing ^^^^

Bluntman420
07-26-2005, 12:31 AM
thought the same thing ^^^^
x 2

jujumantb
07-26-2005, 12:33 AM
um.

why are you putting them on the SIDE of the car like that? they should be put in the corner under the deadpedal where the plastic foot thing is... or at least as close up to that part as possible...

i guess its looking good so far tho.
Yep, the main point of kicks is to make the pathlengths of the two speakers somewhat close for better imaging, also the flexibility for aiming, the position you have them in now looks like it would be worse than stock, same place just lower.

flakko
07-26-2005, 12:35 AM
um.

why are you putting them on the SIDE of the car like that? they should be put in the corner under the deadpedal where the plastic foot thing is... or at least as close up to that part as possible...

i guess its looking good so far tho.

I knew someonewas gonna ask that lol

but the reason for that is, i dont have room to put it anywhere else. my e-brake takes up the majority of the corner. and after listening to it the way i had it, the music sounded fine to my ears. It may not have PERFECT imaging, but its the best i could do with the limited space.

jacko
07-26-2005, 12:37 AM
E-Brake? Just take a sawz-all or a hacksaw to that sucka!

supa_c
07-26-2005, 12:41 AM
Trust me, they sound great like that.

flakko
07-26-2005, 12:41 AM
E-Brake? Just take a sawz-all or a hacksaw to that sucka!

umm lol i would like to keep my car as stock as possible, and i also live on a hill... and might need it once in a while.

req
07-26-2005, 12:58 AM
shyt son, if it were me, id get somone with some welding skills, hack that deadpedal off, have them weld a bar so you can move it back\over (like near the regular brake like where the clutch would be) and then your kick is totally free.

and welding it on would take like 20 minutes to do

Bluntman420
07-26-2005, 01:01 AM
req.....i pm'ed you....no response??????

sorry.....carry on

flakko
07-26-2005, 01:01 AM
shyt son, if it were me, id get somone with some welding skills, hack that deadpedal off, have them weld a bar so you can move it back\over (like near the regular brake like where the clutch would be) and then your kick is totally free.

and welding it on would take like 20 minutes to do

lol thats cool!! its fine the way it is tho :)

i listened to the speakers against the dead pedal, and it didnt sound all that hot for some reason. I guess its the car i dunno

jujumantb
07-26-2005, 01:03 AM
lol thats cool!! its fine the way it is tho :)

i listened to the speakers against the dead pedal, and it didnt sound all that hot for some reason. I guess its the car i dunno
hmm hard to imagine them imaging better where they are but if your ears say so :cool:

skeptikal
07-26-2005, 01:16 AM
my deadpedal is exactly wehre i'm putting my kickpanels lol... i guess i can sacrifice safety for my stereo!

07-26-2005, 01:23 AM
lets just hope that your random passenger (if you plan on doing the same thing on the other side) doesn't step straight onto the grill jumping into your ride

flakko
07-26-2005, 01:33 AM
lets just hope that your random passenger (if you plan on doing the same thing on the other side) doesn't step straight onto the grill jumping into your ride

im gonna post a sign...

(i just made htis rite now :))

supa_c
07-26-2005, 01:34 AM
LMAO !
so make that sign

07-26-2005, 01:38 AM

im gonna post a sign...

(i just made htis rite now :))
if you make it, ill buy one!!! OMG!

UndercoverPunk
07-26-2005, 01:40 AM
if you make it, ill buy one!!! OMG!

traksta15
07-26-2005, 01:51 AM
^^anybody can^^

cheap ones anyway..................

JAZN
07-26-2005, 04:35 AM
omg finally. ;)
why dont u glass that trash can into the car too???!!!111

flakko
07-26-2005, 04:38 AM
omg finally. ;)
why dont u glass that trash can into the car too???!!!111

yea lol

thast a great idea!!! and carpet it too to make it flush with the interior!

flakko
07-26-2005, 12:58 PM
UPDATE:

I tore the mold outa my car and added a few layers to it.

heres the front:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3950/glassin059jt.jpg

the back:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6176/glassin064gh.jpg

its freakin hard to get that tape off.

doin more later today

Mr. Opportunist
07-26-2005, 01:45 PM
i like what you did with the tape, great art deco design....

jujumantb
07-26-2005, 01:48 PM
i like what you did with the tape, great art deco design....
I'd call it art nuevo
:p:

flakko
07-27-2005, 12:00 AM
Update:

starting on the right side. just taped. no glass

b4 shot:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7648/glassin078ur.jpg

cleaned up and ready to go
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4161/glassin084ca.jpg

taped:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5613/glassin099nc.jpg

starting the glass tomorrow morning. :)

ntense702
07-27-2005, 12:11 AM
definitely post that sign in your car, cuz that looks like it will be an accident waiting to happen, and it would be very tragic to see one of those nice speakers getting stepped on

07-27-2005, 01:43 AM
hey sweet my first ever deleted post....

but before you unleash the delete button on me yet again, i want to say one thing

i really think that people should expirement with different stage positions... putting my tweeters (doublesided tape) down near my midrange components created very little difference in stage height.

anyway, bye.

MisterGrubbs
07-27-2005, 01:46 AM
not a bad idea actually...about the sawing the e-brake lol ... saw that joker in half and screw in a little hinge kinda, so when it's not being used, you can just flip it up and it'll be outta the way, when you need it kick her down :-) lol

flakko
07-28-2005, 03:51 PM
update!

Fits poifectly
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1460/glassin104ii.jpg

This is the basic location on where the kick is gonna be. I still need to trim a BUNCH of fiberglass off and its not aimed yet. Its also going to be elevated a little off the ground for more air space.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7494/glassin114yk.jpg

mite do the right and side today. i dint sleep in 24 hours

p.s. its not the ebrake thats blocking. its the parking brake. so i kinda need that. ;)

JAZN
07-28-2005, 04:05 PM
get a smaller parking brake pedal :D

flakko
08-18-2005, 01:44 AM
well... i finally got aroudn to doin the rightside. finally.

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3819/glassin019ay.jpg

with the tape...
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1273/glassin041vp.jpg

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/478/glassin054ub.jpg

i fergot to put the mold release thingie again hehe so its art deco again!
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5317/glassin022oe.jpg

im gonna go buy a carbide blade tomorrow and trim all the stuff i dun need tomorrow.

More to come!!!!!!

jellyfish420
08-18-2005, 07:51 AM
p.s. its not the ebrake thats blocking. its the parking brake. so i kinda need that. ;)
huh?
you know ebrake and parking brake are the same thing?

also for who ever keeps calling it a dead pedal...its not.
the dead pedal is the floor directly behing the e/parking brake, where that piece of plastic is.

as for the kicks....if they wouldn't fit up in the corner i would of glassed them in the doors...but hey its your whip, as long as you like em. they're coming along nicely.

Bluntman420
08-18-2005, 08:14 AM
[QUOTE=jellyfish420]huh?
you know ebrake and parking brake are the same thing?

[QUOTE]
if he doesnt he shouldnt be driving:laugh:

flakko
08-18-2005, 01:46 PM
o i thot the ebrake was the emergency brake watever... about glassing in the doors, i said already... I WANT TO KEEP MY CAR AS STOCK AS POSSIBLE!!! and it sounds good where they are right now cuz i got a long car :)

anyways i got more work done:

I cut and shaped the left kick and added another layer of glass.
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9451/glassin181ud.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5913/glassin201zo.jpg

i also added another layer to the right side to heres both drying rite now:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1213/glassin194uw.jpg

sux i broke like 3 jigsaw blades cutting 1 freakin kick lol man.

more to come! :)

req
08-18-2005, 02:00 PM

they eat through fiberglass.

and on a second note, you are going to want the edges as rounded as possible. in this picture;

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1213/glassin194uw.jpg

i would not have the little top and right bump areas. make those flush with the rest unless you want some retarded wrinkles. id cut it like this;

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8249/kick1lx.jpg

flakko
08-18-2005, 02:01 PM

they eat through fiberglass.

ehhh??? i was told fine toothed!!

grrrrrr! wasted 4 bucks.

req
08-18-2005, 02:05 PM
no no. fine toothed is for metal. you definatly wanna use wood blades - you will be amazed how quick a nice 14 tooth per inch blade will cut that ****. (iirc 14t\in)

flakko
08-18-2005, 02:08 PM

they eat through fiberglass.

and on a second note, you are going to want the edges as rounded as possible. in this picture;

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1213/glassin194uw.jpg

i would not have the little top and right bump areas. make those flush with the rest unless you want some retarded wrinkles. id cut it like this;

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8249/kick1lx.jpg

ooo coool! thankyou thankyou! at about the top one? how should i cut that?

as for the blade.. okay i thot metal blades were used for fiberglass... hmm o well i trust you req... the glassing master.

fo0manchu
08-18-2005, 02:14 PM
make sure the jig saw blades are high carbon steel or carbide tipped. Regular wood blades will dull very quick when cutting f/g.

req
08-18-2005, 02:15 PM
cut the top one the same way.

somthing like this, try to get the front side to be flush with the bottom of your baffle-

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8374/kick5rl.jpg

make sure the jig saw blades are high carbon steel or carbide tipped. Regular wood blades will dull very quick when cutting f/g.

that too. good tip, rather spend $12 on quality blades that will last, than$6 blades that will dull\break.

AVSTANG02
08-18-2005, 02:19 PM
that setup is really going to ****.

JAZN
08-18-2005, 02:31 PM
that setup is really going to ****.
i assume you've heard it already.

Switt23
08-18-2005, 02:41 PM
The way the kicks are angled... aren't they going to blare right into your leg? Just a thought.

flakko
08-18-2005, 02:44 PM
^^^X2 i dunno why pple are prejudging my setup... lol

neways i fixed:

left:
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/6523/glassin218jg.jpg
right:

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/3646/glassin223kp.jpg
i dunno about this cuz my kick is gonna be up against the side of my car.

together
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/2244/glassin234ua.jpg

flakko
08-18-2005, 02:46 PM
The way the kicks are angled... aren't they going to blare right into your leg? Just a thought.

well nope. it sounds fine cuz like i put my leg over the kick so it fires underneath my leg. ( i have skinny legs hehe)

req
08-18-2005, 02:52 PM
flakko, id lop the edge off that top one. (passanger side iirc?)

oh yea.

i just went out and cut my door pod glass ;)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6674/img02419um.jpg

flakko
08-18-2005, 03:01 PM
like this:
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/5759/glassin255vh.jpg
i dunno i mite need it

oh well ill trust you again lol

req
08-18-2005, 03:03 PM
thats llooking good, id cut the side closest toward the camrea down a little more too - other than that it looks good from that angle. mind doing one from the other side?

ruckus
08-18-2005, 03:41 PM
o i thot the ebrake was the emergency brake watever...

It is your parking brake and emergency brake are the same thing. A handle connected to a cable which locks your drum brakes in the rear.

flakko
08-18-2005, 03:47 PM
thats llooking good, id cut the side closest toward the camrea down a little more too - other than that it looks good from that angle. mind doing one from the other side?

crap lol i cut it off already oh well...

it will be fine when i position them and stretch a t-shirt over it.

flakko
08-18-2005, 04:00 PM
flakko, id lop the edge off that top one. (passanger side iirc?)

oh yea.

i just went out and cut my door pod glass ;)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6674/img02419um.jpg

thats nice dude!! you people and your new cars with your stock speakers in the door....

flakko
08-18-2005, 07:31 PM
more:

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2088/glassin268im.jpg

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1632/glassin273gg.jpg

im starting to put the dowels in. the right kick is a pain in the butt.

supa_c
08-18-2005, 08:15 PM
sheesh, finally

JAZN
08-18-2005, 08:15 PM
use hot glue for dowels, way faster.

supa_c
08-18-2005, 08:20 PM
Hot glue/ice pack

JAZN
08-18-2005, 08:31 PM
Hot glue/ice pack
noah's secret method is better than that.

flakko
08-18-2005, 08:50 PM
oh jeez lol ive been waitig for this crap to dry so long, some ove the dowels never even dried.

GAAAAA ITCHY!

supa_c
08-18-2005, 09:10 PM
noah's secret method is better than that.
It also costs money

req
08-18-2005, 10:15 PM
i need to go buy a can of compressed air. put the hot-glue on there, turn the can upside down, and spray that freezing liquid on the hotglue.

instant bond :)

Buckshot
08-18-2005, 10:35 PM
i need to go buy a can of compressed air. put the hot-glue on there, turn the can upside down, and spray that freezing liquid on the hotglue.

instant bond :)

Now that sounds like an idea.

flakko
08-18-2005, 10:37 PM
Wow all the money that has to be spent! jeez

but funny thing after an hour one of the pegs still hasnt dried.

Buckshot
08-18-2005, 10:39 PM
Wow all the money that has to be spent! jeez

but funny thing after an hour one of the pegs still hasnt dried.

Thats why the hot glue was mentioned. :eyebrow:

req
08-18-2005, 10:41 PM
Now that sounds like an idea.

kinda ***** that i spent all that time today holding my baffle and waiting for that **** glue.

theres also the same stuff, but its meant for freezing gum thats in peoples hair, or on clothes - so you can break it off... it just shoots a freezing liquid out and would work just as well.

flakko
08-18-2005, 10:41 PM
yea i prefer to wait lol. i dont feel like buying anything else rite now.

flakko
08-18-2005, 10:42 PM
kinda ***** that i spent all that time today holding my baffle and waiting for that **** glue.

theres also the same stuff, but its meant for freezing gum thats in peoples hair, or on clothes - so you can break it off... it just shoots a freezing liquid out and would work just as well.

DOOD will used gum work??!?!?!?!?

that word "gum" gave me an idea.

DBfan187
08-18-2005, 10:43 PM
CA glue

supa_c
08-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Cant you make some sort of rice paste that will harden ?

flakko
08-19-2005, 01:31 AM
Cant you make some sort of rice paste that will harden ?

lol are u typing that mocking my asianness or are you serious?

btw finally got hte left baffle up. dont know how long it will stay that way tho :(

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/264/glassin304qq.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8815/glassin298wo.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5231/glassin288dp.jpg

my evil elmers glue in the bg...

MatthewR6
08-19-2005, 01:44 AM
lol are u typing that mocking my asianness or are you serious?

btw finally got hte left baffle up. dont know how long it will stay that way tho :(

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/264/glassin304qq.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8815/glassin298wo.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5231/glassin288dp.jpg

my evil elmers glue in the bg...

leave em alone! no touch!:)

flakko
08-19-2005, 01:49 AM
one more pic in my car:

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/1433/glassin313ji.jpg
and its staying there till tomorrow.

supa_c
08-19-2005, 02:18 AM
Im mocking you...duh
You shoudve got me to make you some new baffles, those ones look like crap.
The tweeter doesnt even fit in them for crying out loud

flakko
08-19-2005, 02:26 AM
Im mocking you...duh
You shoudve got me to make you some new baffles, those ones look like crap.
The tweeter doesnt even fit in them for crying out loud

HAHAHAHAHAHA

i know.

its okay though. it will be covered up by my t-shirt.

xchaosx
08-19-2005, 12:51 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA

i know.

its okay though. it will be covered up by my t-shirt.

why t-shirt use sweatshirt 80% cotton 20% poly blend it will make it alot stronger with the first layer looks good so far but i do agree with the new baffles your going to have trouble with that tweeter

flakko
08-19-2005, 01:43 PM
hmmm.... i cut my t-shirt already...dangit...i'm always a step behind of the game hehe

ngsm13
08-19-2005, 01:54 PM
i need to go buy a can of compressed air. put the hot-glue on there, turn the can upside down, and spray that freezing liquid on the hotglue.

instant bond :)

Gee...wonder where you got that idea from?!?!? Asshat ;)

NG

UndercoverPunk
08-19-2005, 02:15 PM
Gee...wonder where you got that idea from?!?!? Asshat ;)

NG

I don't need credit.

flakko
08-21-2005, 01:56 AM
aite...just a quick question on the t-shirt covering before i glue it...

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1535/glassin328oz.jpg

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/9048/glassin335gk.jpg

i think it looks cool with the wrinkles just in that top left corner. you know kinda art-deco lol

and shut up i know i have flowers on my comforter.

edit: i can always bodyfiller also rite?

supa_c
08-21-2005, 02:11 AM
Yep, bodyfiller all you need.
Its o.k, i have flowers on my sheets.

flakko
08-21-2005, 02:13 AM
aite thats cool.... yes its finally gonna happen!! im gonna finnish!!

now for the right side...pain in the butt.

flakko
08-21-2005, 06:53 PM
alright yo got some more work done:

finally got the t-shirt stretched:

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8168/glassin321jb.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/1134/glassin359yp.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/9393/glassin342fc.jpg
theres the only wrinkles.. not as bad as earlier tho...

and resined:
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8120/glassin362am.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/2869/glassin379fd.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7006/glassin389uo.jpg

more to come when dry!

flakko
08-21-2005, 08:28 PM
got more done...

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2609/glassin391si.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9384/glassin406pm.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4822/glassin416jx.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6366/glassin422wg.jpg

thats it for now... maybe add a layer or 4 later on today.

skeptikal
08-21-2005, 10:03 PM
i havent read most fo the thread but where might i ask are those angled? i'm srry if it has already been discussed those kicks look just about as crazy as mine lol.

flakko
08-21-2005, 10:56 PM
haha i guess you can say that lol twas the only place i could put it without it soundling like crap.

Moe Lester
08-21-2005, 11:18 PM
PE screwdriver = pwnage, i got one of those too :)

PRIVATEpastry
08-21-2005, 11:46 PM
You're planning on glassing the t-shirt, correct?

flakko
08-22-2005, 12:30 AM
PE screwdriver = pwnage, i got one of those too :)

heck yea man... that thing has been THE most useful tool i have ever used. and the best thing... its FREE!

You're planning on glassing the t-shirt, correct?

ya ya i dint feel like spending money so i used an old t-shirt. its still a lil flimsy tho.. nothing some more coats of resin wont fix i reckon.

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 12:47 AM
ya ya i dint feel like spending money so i used an old t-shirt. its still a lil flimsy tho.. nothing some more coats of resin wont fix i reckon.
The idea is to glas the t-shirt, too...

flakko
08-22-2005, 12:50 AM
i did. see:

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/7006/glassin389uo.jpg

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 01:51 AM
i did. see:

Not just resin, use mat on the t-shirt, too.

flakko
08-22-2005, 01:54 AM
really? it seems fine the way it is now...well ill see how hard it is tomorrow. if its still to weak ill mat the mofo.

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 01:56 AM
Did you use mat on the backing?

flakko
08-22-2005, 02:15 AM
your rite lol okay ill put some mat on it its still too flimsy but look its all shiny once i put a coat of resin on it!

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7514/glassin449ho.jpg

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9186/glassin454kh.jpg

maybe i wont need to carpet it...

and i started on the right side:

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4276/glassin439fs.jpg

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1377/glassin467pu.jpg

supa_c
08-22-2005, 05:43 AM
If you do use the mat+resin you will need a nice coat of body filler on there.

Buckshot
08-22-2005, 11:25 AM
If you do use the mat+resin you will need a nice coat of body filler on there.

And if your not careful with that bodyfiller, you can expect to sand your balls off (:eek:) trying to get it smoothe.

** TOS: If you take the sanding your balls off comment slightly too literally, and end up with no balls, I will not be held responsible. **

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 11:35 AM
What you should do, is mat the inside of the enclosure, this way you won't need to use body filler.

Or as much body filler...

flakko
08-22-2005, 12:19 PM
^^^^ i like that idea it will take a crapload of work, but its better in the long run rite?

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 12:21 PM
It will save you a TON of time sanding. I woulda done that on my amp rack, but it was an odd shape, so I couldn't...

flakko
08-22-2005, 03:59 PM
hey wat about some ss on the inside of those kicks instead of extra matting?

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 04:43 PM
ss?

flakko
08-22-2005, 06:32 PM
oops hehe Second skin. I got some hazmat i needa use up

UndercoverPunk
08-22-2005, 06:47 PM
hey wat about some ss on the inside of those kicks instead of extra matting?

flakko
08-22-2005, 06:50 PM
will htat suffice? cuz i dun wanna use all the resin i have cuz i still have another project to do.

ruckus
08-22-2005, 07:13 PM
Its really your choice. You dont have to worry about flexing and stuff with comps like you would with a sub box. I would recommend using a layer of mat on the inside but it is not mandatory. you can also mix mat in with the bondo and lay that inside it is called kittyhair they sell it premixed at advanced auto but you can do it yourself and save on \$.

PRIVATEpastry
08-22-2005, 07:15 PM
Hey, flakko, how's that hazmat? Better than damplifier?

flakko
08-22-2005, 07:47 PM
lol well i added an extra layer of matt outside i guess ill have to carpet after all.

and private: i dunno i havent tried it yet. but all i know it has a plastic backing instead of a foil one.