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PRIVATEpastry
07-24-2005, 11:23 PM
I'm looking at upgrading my HU. I'm trying to stay under the $200 mark, but a little over wouldn't be bad. How do they compare in SQ, features, etc...?

Thanks for any input you guys have.

fatryan
07-24-2005, 11:25 PM
Pioneer = teh win

bigwheel15
07-24-2005, 11:43 PM
I would choose pioneer simply because ive had personal experience with them and have never had a problem with one. But panasonic does have some decks with great features for under $200, just a question of reliability.

netherland24
07-25-2005, 12:17 AM
well since i have worked with both depends on what all u going to do next to SQ panasonic is great after u remove all that dot matrix stuff and motorized face. pioneer is pretty basic and have been around for 20years in mobile audio.

zachzchw
07-25-2005, 12:17 AM
I had a Pioneer 860, ran into problems.
My wife has a Pioneer (not sure of the model, it was about $150 a year ago), no problems at all.
Get whichever one you like better, or has the better warranty.

zachzchw
07-25-2005, 12:18 AM
well since i have worked with both depends on what all u going to do next to SQ panasonic is great after u remove all that dot matrix stuff and motorized face. pioneer is pretty basic and have been around for 20years in mobile audio.


Pioneer is basic? Care to explain that a little?

PRIVATEpastry
07-25-2005, 01:04 AM
well since i have worked with both depends on what all u going to do next to SQ panasonic is great after u remove all that dot matrix stuff and motorized face. pioneer is pretty basic and have been around for 20years in mobile audio.

What do you mean by "remove" the dot matrix and motorized face? How would you do that? And it actually improves SQ?

PRIVATEpastry
07-25-2005, 01:05 AM
Panasonic's reliability is fine ...

However, I dislike their user interface and strongly dislike their looks ...

Really? I think they look really clean and sharp. Especially with all that polished gun metal. :naughty:

shaqinblaq323
07-25-2005, 01:14 AM
I prefer the built in eq on the Pioneer. If you are not planning on using an amp on your mids/highs, the Pioneer will help you bring out the clarity and great sound of the music. To me the panasonic decks under $200 is very basic. The controls are: treble, bass, balance, front/back, and some models have a subwoofer level. You have to pay big money on a Panasonic to get the adjustability that you can attain from the cheapest of the Pioneers. Go Pioneer or JVC! JVC is the only deck that I now use! Out of Pioneer, Panasonic, and JVC-- Go with JCV or Pioneer.

PRIVATEpastry
07-25-2005, 01:26 AM
I prefer the built in eq on the Pioneer. If you are not planning on using an amp on your mids/highs, the Pioneer will help you bring out the clarity and great sound of the music. To me the panasonic decks under $200 is very basic. The controls are: treble, bass, balance, front/back, and some models have a subwoofer level. You have to pay big money on a Panasonic to get the adjustability that you can attain from the cheapest of the Pioneers. Go Pioneer or JVC! JVC is the only deck that I now use! Out of Pioneer, Panasonic, and JVC-- Go with JCV or Pioneer.

7 band eq on a $150 HU?

zachzchw
07-25-2005, 02:22 AM
Look around the classifieds, sometimes youll see high end Pioneer, Eclipse, and Alpine stuff selling for around $200 that are great decks.

Might also want to check out Kenwood Excelon.

PRIVATEpastry
07-26-2005, 08:43 PM
next to SQ panasonic is great after u remove all that dot matrix stuff and motorized face.
Can you explain?

flakko
07-26-2005, 08:48 PM
actually i like pioneers looks better, but the panasonic is a GREAT starter HU. I had one for a year, and it never failed on me. I like the user interface a lot its simple and easy to read. I also like the glowing blue backlight :)

seth350
07-26-2005, 08:49 PM
Look around the classifieds, sometimes youll see high end Pioneer, Eclipse, and Alpine stuff selling for around $200 that are great decks.

Might also want to check out Kenwood Excelon.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166492
Heres a VERY nice pioneer selling for $175 on a forum Im on :)

PRIVATEpastry
07-26-2005, 09:08 PM
actually i like pioneers looks better, but the panasonic is a GREAT starter HU. I had one for a year, and it never failed on me. I like the user interface a lot its simple and easy to read. I also like the glowing blue backlight :)
Are you talking about the HU's in the $200 range? Or are you talking about their cheap ones...?

flakko
07-26-2005, 09:24 PM
Are you talking about the HU's in the $200 range? Or are you talking about their cheap ones...?

well ya got something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5790844692&category=50560&rd=1

yea its not AS complicated nor has the features as kenwood excelon, alpine or pioneer. but i love the 7 band EQ that was my favorite part about my old panasonic

ruckus
07-26-2005, 09:28 PM
I'd stick with my P770MP over a panasonic ;)

adam71
07-27-2005, 12:49 AM
I think Panasonic's 990 is a very nice unit. I'm a Pioneer guy all the way but they do look nice. :D

traksta15
07-27-2005, 02:43 AM
never messed with panasonic, but i like my 4600, its mid level pioneer but it gets the job done........i also liked my jvc kdlx-111 but to me the pioneer has way better sound......

retrohwam
07-27-2005, 12:08 PM
With my current problems with Pioneer I'd say anyone but them.....

can you help me? (http://www.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=109430)

TeenWolf
07-27-2005, 10:33 PM
I've had a couple of Pioneer decks and no serious problems. My last ended up with a bad pre-out, but other than that, all was good.

AlpineRs
07-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Love it

PRIVATEpastry
07-27-2005, 11:57 PM
Everyone seems to be a Pioneer fan. Is that just because they are more well known? IDK, but I think the Panasonics are a much better value, and if there aren't any serious problems or drawbacks of their HU's, then I'll probably be going with a Panasonic when I get the cash...

Any more input on either brand HU?

adam71
07-28-2005, 08:18 AM
Everyone seems to be a Pioneer fan. Is that just because they are more well known? IDK, but I think the Panasonics are a much better value, and if there aren't any serious problems or drawbacks of their HU's, then I'll probably be going with a Panasonic when I get the cash...

Any more input on either brand HU?


I guess it would depend on how much expanding you want to do. I mean as far as I know Panasonic doesn't make an XM or Sirius tuner. If that doesn't mean anything to you then it won't really matter to you. All I know is that Pioneer has alot more years experience in high end while Panasonic is just now dabbling in that market. Just something to think about. :D

flakko
07-28-2005, 09:19 AM
^^^ya. also it seems that panasonics have worse sq than the pioneer, kenwood, alpine big boys. I switched out my panasonic with my kenwood excelon, and the sq was a world of difference

PRIVATEpastry
07-28-2005, 01:05 PM
^^^ya. also it seems that panasonics have worse sq than the pioneer, kenwood, alpine big boys. I switched out my panasonic with my kenwood excelon, and the sq was a world of difference
Thats something I was looking to hear. I'll take a look at the Excelon HU's... They're pretty decently priced, aren't they?

My JVC has **** for SQ.

Daniel
07-28-2005, 03:10 PM
I wanted to know this to! The panasonics seem to have more preouts and always seem to have higher voltage than the pioneers.... well from the lower, cheaper models that I've seen anyways.

flakko
07-28-2005, 04:02 PM
the positives about panasonic tho:

7 band eq on the mid models, the bright blue backlight (might not appeal to some, but i like it), the crossovers, ease of use, the in-deck wattage 25x4rms, and visibilty in the sun.

PRIVATEpastry
07-28-2005, 04:20 PM
Does anyone else agree with flakko that the Panasonic HU's don't have very good SQ?

AVSTANG02
07-28-2005, 05:09 PM
I'd only go panasonic when it comes to cheap LCDs they make a quality LCD screen.

I'd definately go Pioneer..

PRIVATEpastry
07-28-2005, 06:08 PM
I've been browsing around eBay, and I found a store that sells refurbished Pioneer DEH-P770MP HU's for $160. I'm probably going to go that route unless you all can steer me away. Any last input?

AVSTANG02
07-28-2005, 06:56 PM
check to see what the p80 is going for first.

PRIVATEpastry
07-30-2005, 12:40 PM
The P80 was going for about $230, I believe. Too rich for my blood.

I just completed the transaction for my new DEH-P770MP this morning. :greedy:

PRIVATEpastry
07-30-2005, 12:42 PM
Should I get the 3 year warranty for $16? The HU is refurbished.

PRIVATEpastry
07-31-2005, 05:46 PM
Got the warranty. HU should be here early this week.

Ignatowski
07-31-2005, 06:05 PM
EXCELON> Pio&Pana

adam71
07-31-2005, 10:52 PM
EXCELON> Pio&Pana


:eek: :eek: :laugh: :laugh:

Good one man. :rolleyes:

flakko
08-01-2005, 12:10 PM
yea i would go Premier>eXcelon>panasonic

Prowler573
08-01-2005, 12:22 PM
Even though the Kenwood has lower volt preouts and only a 4-band paraEQ compared to Pioneer's 13-band graphEQ I would say the eXcelon KDC-X889 and Premier DEH-P960MP are pretty comparable overall.

Cha0s00100
08-01-2005, 11:40 PM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50560&item=5794096689&tc=photo

take a look Panisonic cqc8300u GREAT deck a friend of mine has it im getting it myself

adam71
08-02-2005, 03:55 AM
Even though the Kenwood has lower volt preouts and only a 4-band paraEQ compared to Pioneer's 13-band graphEQ I would say the eXcelon KDC-X889 and Premier DEH-P960MP are pretty comparable overall.


No disagreement here. The 889 is one of the best decks Kenwood has EVER offered. It also looks a little nicer than the 960. I like the look of the 860 more than both of them though ;) but thats probably because I own an 860.