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Justintoxicated
07-18-2005, 01:09 PM
Well I finaly got them all I can say as these are the best sounding Comps I have ever and may ever own.

http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/DLS1.jpg
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/DLS2.jpg
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/DLSTweeter1.jpg

Here they are in comparison to my old garbage
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/KenvsIridium.jpg
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/KenvsIridium3.jpg
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/KenvsIridium7.jpg
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/KenMagnet1.jpg
OMFG 23g x 2 hi powered Neodymium magents! FOR SHAME! MADE IN TAIWAN!
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/DLSMagnet1.jpg

These things sound amazing so far and they are only powered from my HU untill I finish Matting the rest of the the vehicle so I can run teh 0ga for my disrto block and amps. Even off the HU they are MUCH louder than the dualmags (althoguh 1 tweet was blow even with workin tweets these are louder and have probably4+ times the midbass of the dualmags and also sound ALOT more clear and less harsh that the slink tweets that came with the dual mags!

I can't wait to run some real power to them m Eclipse 5444 is only putting out about 11 watts RMS to each set and it is enough power to make them thump hard enough to feel air shooting out the holes for the door panel clips on the far end of the door at less than 34th volume. I can't wait to hook these to my eclipse 75x2 amp!

not sure will be needing any rear speakers now I may just leave the factory ones.

Kali77
07-18-2005, 01:25 PM
Congrats on the new components :) I love mine they are great drivers for sure. Wait until you get some real power to them :eek: You will be amazed.

Kali

jujumantb
07-18-2005, 01:29 PM
I'm not sure how you can judge them as the best sounding you've heard when they are powered by 16watts :p: Even crappy speakers can sound great when getting that little power.

AznRevlAzn
07-18-2005, 01:33 PM
oh man to bad the cone and dustcap look like they've been **** on, lol. But none the less DLS = awesome products. Enjoy.

req
07-18-2005, 01:37 PM
brian has some of those, and i must say, they can get loud as hell, and they really kick you in the chest!

look into making some kickpods man!

Prowler573
07-18-2005, 01:39 PM
Very, very nice.
Whatcha gonna do with those eXcelons? I need to start putting together some stuff for the g/f's ride so she'll quit b**tchin'! lol

Justintoxicated
07-18-2005, 01:51 PM
best sounding meaning the cleanestthat I have heard, not necessarily the cleanest that exist, im sure Rainbow would put me to shame right? Also they get Both louder and are proabbly 10 times as clear as the stock 2 ohm 6x9's hooked to the same HU. They also sound much better than my dual mags hooked up to my 75x2 amp with the install in my last vehicle, even though these are only running off the HU! Need I say there is NO comparison to the dual mags hooked up to the HU. Thats where the statement came from. I know only 11 watts but they tump harder and cleaner than other systems hooked to amplifiers. I can hear their potential jsut waiting to unlock it. I have to find a way to drilla 1 inch hole in my firewall to run the 0ga.

I have not decided what to do with the dual mags yet as they ahve 1 blown tweeter, which is why I decided to get new comps, now I'm glad I blew that tweet.

They are not going to go in pods as I'm trying to stealth as much as possible. I used 1/2 roll of RAAMAT on each door, so about 1 full and 1 partial layer on the outer skin, 3 layers behind the speakers and ensolite foam behing the speaker, also 2-3 layers on the inner skin + ensolite foam. As said it is sealed pretty well as even with HU power I can feel air pushing out the pop clip holes for the door panel.

http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/LauraHelp.jpg
http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/DLSInstalled6.jpg

JAZN
07-18-2005, 01:59 PM
looks good. some people dont like the non-pressed paper cone, but i've always loved dls stuff. very neutral, laid back set, awesome for SQ.

just toss your kenwoods.

Justintoxicated
07-18-2005, 02:03 PM
I guess the Cone is not the Coolest looking, but I could give a **** less cause it sounds sweet as hell. :P not like you can see it through the door panel anyways.

http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/DLSInstalled2.jpg

The MDF Adapters are sealed to the doors with compressed weather stripping foam. I used allenheads and nylock buts to make sure I could tighten the adapters down real tight and get a good deal.

Adapters were made larger because there are 6x9's here in the stock location.

Dtowncats
07-18-2005, 02:41 PM
Those x-overs look ****!:thumbupw:

Justintoxicated
07-18-2005, 04:59 PM
as you can see in the pic I put the aluminum ring under the speaker it just seemed to work better for me this way support wise. Is this bad or no? I'm not goign to use the grill as these fit inside the door panel grills fine. I really don't think I needed the ring at all to be honest but it did seem to add some support and clearance when mounted this way.

Folks, thanks for the feedback and comments and advice on selecting these comps.

creater
07-18-2005, 05:14 PM
looks sweet mang...gotto love DLS...cone aint too attractive but still sweet

HeatSeeker
07-18-2005, 05:39 PM
I think the cone looks tight...

But yea I wish I had me enough to afford one of these right now. Well I do but I gotta hurry up n get my subs first :D

Justintoxicated
07-18-2005, 08:45 PM
I think the cone looks tight...

But yea I wish I had me enough to afford one of these right now. Well I do but I gotta hurry up n get my subs first :D

Cool I still can't decide on small SQL subs to fit under my back seat. What you getting?


looks good. some people dont like the non-pressed paper cone, but i've always loved dls stuff. very neutral, laid back set, awesome for SQ.

just toss your kenwoods.

I was thinking about replacing the stock rear speakers with them and Running just the Mid's of the HU using the Eclipse's CD5444's crossover rather than kenwoods, but I think the stock speakers give off a little more bass and filler off the HU than teh dual mags (although not as clear), and this is with both stockers wired to one channel on my HU. I'd like to run the rear filler speakers in sterio but the factory Titan speakers are 2 ohms.

What would happen if I ran the factory 2 ohm speakers off my Eclipse 5444 HU; one off each chanel rather than both of them in series off 1 channel like I have them wires now? I'm not worried about blowing them as I can adjust the fade on the HU to help avoid this. But what I don't want to do is damage the HU!

Any recomendations as far as what to do with the rear?

I have a feeling the Iridiums will be loud enough to blister my ears once I get them powered off an amp, but the suicide doors on the titan open almost a full 90 deg makin them perfect for playing music for people Outside of the truck (Like when I go to the desert), not to mention the fact I think some filler for the rear would be nice as I can turn it down so as not to screw with imaging.

Justintoxicated
07-20-2005, 03:03 AM
I got the stock tweete cover re-installed, But I had to remove the Basketball Grill from the tweeters.

What I did was take some really thin stiff cardboard and make a cutout so the stock grills could be used.

http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/TweetTempMount1.jpg

But the tweeter still did not fit, the grill sticks out too far to protect that huge dust cap.

http://justintox.servebeer.com:8080//SterioInstall/TweetTempMount2.jpg

So I removed the Grill from the tweeter (it snaps on real secure). This allowed me to push the tweeter down a bit, however there is not much a lip ont he tweeter's body since the lip of the tweeter in the pic is actualy part of the basketball grill.

I then proceded to BUST out some duct tape and attach the bottom of the tweeter to the cardboard securley.

The Cardboard is thin enough that the stock grills will pop on, but apply pressure on the cardboard where the 6 shorter stopper prongs are located (4 clip prongs attached to the grill that hold the grill to the dash, and 6 stopps that press against the cardboard). This will stop the cardboard from flying upward and smashing the dome of the tweeter on a hard impact. The tweeter is securley taped to the cardboard from the bottom with duct tape. I think this should stop it from moving around for now but I do Offroad this vehicle a bit.

Anyone have any ideas how to do this better? I was looking at the plumbers strap someone used and recomended in my post about making mounts but that method honestly does not sound much better than the one I used? Or maybe it is?

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=tweeter+mounts

Any Ideas?

Also any Advice on how to hookup speakers and what I should be using for my rear fill as I mentioned in the post above?

Vash
07-20-2005, 06:09 PM
Hey Bro,
I'm located in Long Beach, just got my Iridium 8.3s installed. Want to know how the 2 ways sound. Mind if I come take a listen?
-Virath

Justintoxicated
07-20-2005, 07:48 PM
yea maybe we can meet up somewhere I'd like to hear the 8.3's Only thing is Mine are not amped yet...We could meet by Circuit City or something. Or I can PM you after I finish my install. I still have to RAAMAT the entire interior before I run the wires for my amps.

Vash
07-20-2005, 10:04 PM
cool deal man. I need to make some serious mdf baffle rings for the 8 inchs tho, its rattling the crap out of my 01 miata doors. I use Fatman deadening, its ok but the higher freq. rolling bass is resonating my doors. Still gotta find those phantom rattles in the door mechs to. is it me or the tweeter very directional? are you deadening the inside of your outer door panel to?

HeatSeeker
07-21-2005, 02:41 AM
Cool I still can't decide on small SQL subs to fit under my back seat. What you getting?

2 of the new Mags from Stereo Integrity. Can't decide on 12 or 15's tho, gotta see what will fit in my trunk tho :D

azbass
07-21-2005, 02:48 AM
nice speakers ya got.

flakko
07-21-2005, 03:58 AM
cool deal man. I need to make some serious mdf baffle rings for the 8 inchs tho, its rattling the crap out of my 01 miata doors. I use Fatman deadening, its ok but the higher freq. rolling bass is resonating my doors. Still gotta find those phantom rattles in the door mechs to. is it me or the tweeter very directional? are you deadening the inside of your other door panel to?

ey yer all in so cal cool.

Vashu hehe are u the stampede?

cjjackson85
07-21-2005, 04:08 AM
Your girl looks like she was hit repeatedly in the face with a bat... :crap:

Only 6.2s? Weak...

J/k... :uhoh:

Vash
07-21-2005, 03:19 PM
ey yer all in so cal cool.

Vashu hehe are u the stampede?

With the 5,000,000 double dollars on my head

6three6mafia6
07-22-2005, 03:01 AM
hey guys i would also love to come hear those iridiums, im actually thinking of buying the iridium 8.3's or the 6.2(???).

3.5Max6spd
07-22-2005, 08:46 AM
best sounding meaning the cleanestthat I have heard, not necessarily the cleanest that exist, im sure Rainbow would put me to shame right?


I wouldn't say that. At that level of speaker performance will be better based on installation. That is a very nice , enjoyable sounding set. Just make the best use of them and you have nothing to envy. A Rainbow Profi set would be comparable, but bias towards driver's characteristics are purely of personal taste, and also application dependant.
Enjoy those speakers, and great job on the doors! :)

Vash
07-22-2005, 01:37 PM
;)
I wouldn't say that. At that level of speaker performance will be better based on installation. That is a very nice , enjoyable sounding set. Just make the best use of them and you have nothing to envy. A Rainbow Profi set would be comparable, but bias towards driver's characteristics are purely of personal taste, and also application dependant.
Enjoy those speakers, and great job on the doors! :)

With that note, I would invite you to audition them AFTER I got my installation finalized. I'm going to do a mdf baffle ring + clay this weekend and deaden the door some more. These 8 inch woofers are rattling the mechanical stuff inside the door. But like dude said, it's ALOT in the installation. Will let you know when im finished!!

Justintoxicated
07-22-2005, 02:01 PM
well, it will be a while before mine is finished also. I have to deaden my suicide doors, the fron't vibrate but seem to be deadened pretty well

I'm still not sure what to do for the rear.

I can use the stock speakers or the dual mag mid drivers.

The stock mids are 2 ohms, so I'm not sure they can be run off the hU? What will happen if I hook 2 ohm speakers to my Eclipse CD5444? They seem to be a bit louder, and deliver more bass, even when I run them both in series off only one channel of the HU, However I want sterio sound for the back, but I'm afraid to hook each o them on their own channels.

I know other people have done this and said it worked fine. Will I damage my HU running the stock2 ohm speakers on off it?

My Friend jsut said he checked out my speakers at teh audio store but he said he liked the Diamond Hexes better so he bought 2 set of them for his titan. I hope I went with the right set, or that they are at least comparable to the diamond hexes.

6three6mafia6
07-22-2005, 05:06 PM
hey vash and justin PM me when you guys are done i would love to come hear this, as far as my equiptment ill let you guys hear the NEW brahmas when there installed, or you can hear my xxx12.

cjjackson85
07-22-2005, 05:11 PM
Will I damage my HU running the stock2 ohm speakers on off it?
Depends on the headunit, I wouldn't do it... :crap:

Vash
07-22-2005, 06:40 PM
Hmmm, 2 ohms running from the deck? i dont know about that.. might overheat ur HU. But better be sure and hit up Eclipse they would know for sure. If you can run ur dual mags,does that HU have a built in Xover or a low pass to run rear fill like that? Diamond Hexes... I think I would rather go with Rainbow Pro kickbass vandium if i didn't go with the dls. :veryhapp:



well, it will be a while before mine is finished also. I have to deaden my suicide doors, the fron't vibrate but seem to be deadened pretty well

I'm still not sure what to do for the rear.

I can use the stock speakers or the dual mag mid drivers.

The stock mids are 2 ohms, so I'm not sure they can be run off the hU? What will happen if I hook 2 ohm speakers to my Eclipse CD5444? They seem to be a bit louder, and deliver more bass, even when I run them both in series off only one channel of the HU, However I want sterio sound for the back, but I'm afraid to hook each o them on their own channels.

I know other people have done this and said it worked fine. Will I damage my HU running the stock2 ohm speakers on off it?

My Friend jsut said he checked out my speakers at teh audio store but he said he liked the Diamond Hexes better so he bought 2 set of them for his titan. I hope I went with the right set, or that they are at least comparable to the diamond hexes.

6three6mafia6
07-22-2005, 07:55 PM
hey vash why are ther called rainbow pro KICKBASS??? i saw one of the components and i think it was 5 1/4 "kickbass" i doubt a 5.24 could produce any KICKBASS so is it just the name or what?

Justintoxicated
07-22-2005, 08:20 PM
Hmmm, 2 ohms running from the deck? i dont know about that.. might overheat ur HU. But better be sure and hit up Eclipse they would know for sure. If you can run ur dual mags,does that HU have a built in Xover or a low pass to run rear fill like that? Diamond Hexes... I think I would rather go with Rainbow Pro kickbass vandium if i didn't go with the dls. :veryhapp:


Ok I will call eclipse, right now they are rn in series and still sound as loud as the stock HU powered them.... Silly nissan and their 2 ohm speakers.

I have the Dual Mag passive crossoevers I could use with the stock speakers but I don't think that would sound right. The HU does have a built in X-over. However I don't know if I can X-over the rear from the front seperately, but they would probably like close to the same setting anyways. I think right now I have it set at 63 htz, But I don't have subs yet and I'm running the DLS crossovers in the front anyways lol.

Thanks.

simon21
07-22-2005, 10:36 PM
How much did you get the DLS for and from where?

ChiefontheDitty
07-24-2005, 12:24 PM
Does anybody know dls's, image dynamics, and rainbow's websites? I searched and all I found were unauthorized dealers selling there stuff.

Kali77
07-24-2005, 12:35 PM
Does anybody know dls's, image dynamics, and rainbow's websites? I searched and all I found were unauthorized dealers selling there stuff.

www.dls.se
http://imagedynamicsusa.com/public_release/
http://www.rainbow-audio.de/

ChiefontheDitty
07-24-2005, 12:37 PM
ah thank you.

Vash
07-25-2005, 03:59 AM
How much did you get the DLS for and from where?

PM tplaya07 for DLS stuff. That's whom I got mines from, and he's cool guy to deal with. I just got my mdf ring baffles in w/ modeling clay and man huge difference. There's more kick in the bass and I think that's becuase of the extra weight on around the baffles. Iridium 8.3 is good stuff :wowflash:

Justintoxicated
07-25-2005, 01:40 PM
PM tplaya07 for DLS stuff. That's whom I got mines from, and he's cool guy to deal with. I just got my mdf ring baffles in w/ modeling clay and man huge difference. There's more kick in the bass and I think that's becuase of the extra weight on around the baffles. Iridium 8.3 is good stuff :wowflash:

I got mine from tplaya07 also 475 shipped.

I used some real Beefy weatherstripping foam on mine becase I was able to apply a ring of the dense foam inside of the bolt holes, I compressed the foam with Allenheads and Nylock Nuts, It was compressed very tight due to being able to Tighten down teh MDF with allen heads.

The only thing is I' not sure about the seal from the speaker itelf tot he MDF, there was no rubber gasket but it seemed pretty sealed already.

My Plastic door pannels are ratteling a bit, enough though I covered the inside of the pannel with RAAMAT, it's the outer part of the storage space where you can put drinks tools and crap that has no RAAMAT. I'm thinking about matting that part and covering it with foam on the inner side of the storage area so you can only notice the foam., which would also help things placed in it from ratteling.

Greg200SE-R
07-26-2005, 04:36 AM
Nice choice. I am in love with my Iridiums. Please consider my 2 cents on these speakers...

I don't know too much about the Eclipse you have, but if it is 3-way capable with a fleixible crossover, I highly recommend running your comps active. They come with incredible crossovers but you can really unlock the potential of the 6.2s by playing with corssover frequencies and slopes... My car sounded best after moving the XO point lower to 800Hz/6dB LP on the mid and 1600Hz/6dB HP on the tweeters. Time alignment is especially advantageous because of the non-resonant characteristics of the mids and tweeters.

Be aware that the UR1 tweeters are pretty directional. They are soooo sweet if you can aim them somewhat on-axis. I cna't say what will sound good in your car but some experimentation will reap great SQ rewards. I actually have 45 degree tweeter pods which aim them upward and inward, between the headrests. Beautiful sounding tweets.

I've heard the UR6 set in my car as well, and the Iridium midbass alone is responsible for 3x the imaging and soundstaging of the UR6.

Good luck with your install, please keep us posted with pictures!

6three6mafia6
07-26-2005, 03:37 PM
**** i swear im about im about do buy some dls's.

Vash
07-27-2005, 03:11 AM
Nice choice. I am in love with my Iridiums. Please consider my 2 cents on these speakers...

I don't know too much about the Eclipse you have, but if it is 3-way capable with a fleixible crossover, I highly recommend running your comps active. They come with incredible crossovers but you can really unlock the potential of the 6.2s by playing with corssover frequencies and slopes... My car sounded best after moving the XO point lower to 800Hz/6dB LP on the mid and 1600Hz/6dB HP on the tweeters. Time alignment is especially advantageous because of the non-resonant characteristics of the mids and tweeters.

Be aware that the UR1 tweeters are pretty directional. They are soooo sweet if you can aim them somewhat on-axis. I cna't say what will sound good in your car but some experimentation will reap great SQ rewards. I actually have 45 degree tweeter pods which aim them upward and inward, between the headrests. Beautiful sounding tweets.

I've heard the UR6 set in my car as well, and the Iridium midbass alone is responsible for 3x the imaging and soundstaging of the UR6.

Good luck with your install, please keep us posted with pictures!

I second on that qoute saying the UR1 tweeters being directional. It's true they are extremely directional to the point that, you might even hear teh tweeter on the OTHER DOOR clearer than the tweeter right next to you (THIS IS WITH IB ON FAR TOP CORNER OF THE DOOR). But with the tweeter on axis you can hear every detail, pops air sounds all that stuff W/OUT THE HARSHNESS, and the way the tweeters play those cymbals oh man. Thats good stuff. :handclap:

Greg200SE-R
07-27-2005, 04:54 AM
I second on that qoute saying the UR1 tweeters being directional. It's true they are extremely directional to the point that, you might even hear teh tweeter on the OTHER DOOR clearer than the tweeter right next to you (THIS IS WITH IB ON FAR TOP CORNER OF THE DOOR).:
LOL I had the same thing hapen to me, the far tweeter seemed louder just because it was more on-axis than the driver side.


But with the tweeter on axis you can hear every detail, pops air sounds all that stuff W/OUT THE HARSHNESS, and the way the tweeters play those cymbals oh man. Thats good stuff. :handclap:

I agree here too, these tweeters are by far the sweetest I have heard. they have no problem playing down low, so moving the mid/tweeter crossover point lower to around 1200Hz really opens up the crucial midrange frequencies. With digital XO and time alignment, I feel absolutely no need to upgrade to 3-way front stage at the moment (Yet... and when i do it will be DLS!) sounds so smooth I am not even EQing yet. I am a tweakaholic, and with some patience+experimentation the Iridiums can be made to sound unbelievable!

Justintoxicated
07-27-2005, 01:09 PM
I still have to play with my electronic crossover some more, but I think it only provides the Midrage cutoff for all speakers (excecpt sub), not for each channel of the amp, I would have to run the tweeters acticve to cross the tweeters seperately from the mids right?, My Tweeters are in the dashboard the windsheild on my titan is angled well soI feel it does a pretty decent job of reflecting the sound. If only I didn't have the tweeters ghetto ducttaped to the cardboard adapters I would feel a bit better. I think this location atualy helps with the imaging + time alignment. I do notice a pretty big difference using time alighnment and choosing Drivers side, Tweeters in dash, Speakers in doors etc. I tend to swap it from Drivers side to front often when I have passengers because it is so easy to do so.

My Passegers side door has developed a horrible rattle (from the sterio or just drving) It sounds like 2 pieces of styrafoam rubbing each other or nails on a chalkboard... I think a door clip holder is broken and the clip is vibrating around. It sounds HORRIBLE and is driving me crazy so I'm goign to remove the pannel again and squirt a shitload of silicone on it or something.