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fatryan
07-16-2005, 12:33 AM
ive already finished my sub box. and i planned on using t-nuts and bolts again like i did on my L7 enclosure. so i get them all in there, and, OF COURSE, JL has to be ******* with the design of there subs. the d@mn screw holes are under the surround making it like 5 mil times harder to get in. well i nearly crossthreaded the first friggin screw. so i tried again, and got 2 in. on the 3rd, i cross threaded and the t-nut tore through the MDF!!!!!!!! WTF!? so i take all the f*ckin t-nuts out and throw em in the trash. then i used course thread drywall screws. my sub if firing downward and weighs nearly 60 lbs. do you think these drywall screws will be strong enough to hold her?

Black_Jesus
07-16-2005, 01:12 AM
we'll see lol

fatryan
07-16-2005, 01:13 AM
i dont like that answer :(

Randy Savage
07-16-2005, 01:13 AM
lag screws :)

fatryan
07-16-2005, 01:14 AM
huh?

Randy Savage
07-16-2005, 01:14 AM
Lag screws!!

Hit up Home Depot and get you some lag screws...git'er done!

fatryan
07-16-2005, 01:16 AM
well, do you think the drywall screws wont hold?

Randy Savage
07-16-2005, 01:16 AM
How thick is the baffle?

fatryan
07-16-2005, 01:20 AM
3/4 Mdf

Randy Savage
07-16-2005, 01:22 AM
Drywalls should work.

fatryan
07-16-2005, 01:23 AM
i hope so, 13w7's arent cheap!

Acidburn
07-16-2005, 05:14 AM
i agree with you that T-nuts ****, they have been the biggest pain in my ***

AznRevlAzn
07-16-2005, 06:27 AM
iono about you guys, i got my t-nuts in fine.

BeanII
07-16-2005, 10:50 AM
yet another adventure in the english by fat ryan..... WTF ****! ****, WTF.****, ****, ****. balls. ****!!! WTF.


hope ya'll were taking notes.

fatryan
07-16-2005, 12:34 PM
yet another adventure in the english by fat ryan..... WTF ****! ****, WTF.****, ****, ****. balls. ****!!! WTF.


hope ya'll were taking notes.
********!! **********************************!!!! ************!!! ************************************************** *************************************************! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **!


LOL

Dude, i just curse regularly, no big deal.

fatryan
07-16-2005, 12:35 PM
and im done with t-nuts. theyre just too much of a pain in the *** to use. and its not like im competeing and need to take my sub out all the time.

TrlcKed_OuT
07-16-2005, 12:57 PM
ya i had a **** of a time with them i wont be using them again on my subs but if u use weird types of port plugs..they come in very handy...

BeanII
07-16-2005, 06:55 PM
********

Dude, i just curse regularly, no big deal.



hahaha

Black_Jesus
07-17-2005, 01:25 PM
so they workin loose yet? :)

fatryan
07-17-2005, 01:37 PM
i sure hope not, i dont even have the amp yet!!!!

THUNDERBIRD
07-17-2005, 01:39 PM
i used t nuts on my box in my jeep and the danm things wouldnt grab and so i torn them out and nailed in blocks behind the holes and used drywall screws. now that i am thinking about it i could have left them in place and drilled a hole in the block and sandwhiched the tnut in there.

fatryan
07-17-2005, 01:42 PM
yeah, i thought about that, but either way the **** things tore through the MDF.

LBX2G
07-17-2005, 01:47 PM
drywall screws will hold just fine.

fatryan
07-17-2005, 01:49 PM
i hope so

nametaken
07-18-2005, 10:26 PM
yep, drywall screws will be just fine.

edit: i dont know how i missed the downfiring part, it should hold....for a good while at least. Try not to take the sub out again.

davidfre21
07-18-2005, 10:30 PM
y are u downfiring?

fatryan
07-19-2005, 12:14 AM
y are u downfiring?
sq

Mr. Opportunist
07-19-2005, 12:57 AM
what does sq have to do with downfiring?

fatryan
07-19-2005, 01:00 AM
bass travels. and since my seat sits so far back, im practically hovering over my sub. so instead of it firing in my ear and sounding ******, id rather have it bounce around a lil b4 it gets to my ears. :)

Mr. Opportunist
07-19-2005, 01:29 AM
ah gotcha :)

azbass
07-19-2005, 01:32 AM
put a little wood glue on the screw before you screw it in, holds better.

fatryan
07-19-2005, 01:33 AM
^^^ good idea, y didnt i think of that.

thump
07-19-2005, 02:29 AM
I used T nuts for my new box.. Now I have a problem. I cant take my sub out my box. 4 ot he 8 nuts are just spinning around as I turn the bolts counter clockwise to remove them.. I'm guess the little claws on the back ate through the wood and have nothing to grab agaist so I can torque them.. So now my sub is stuck in my box... So much for theft right? Anyways anyone got an idea on how to remove these suckers because I want to upgrade my wire gauge.

Acidburn
07-19-2005, 02:42 AM
I used T nuts for my new box.. Now I have a problem. I cant take my sub out my box. 4 ot he 8 nuts are just spinning around as I turn the bolts counter clockwise to remove them.. I'm guess the little claws on the back ate through the wood and have nothing to grab agaist so I can torque them.. So now my sub is stuck in my box... So much for theft right? Anyways anyone got an idea on how to remove these suckers because I want to upgrade my wire gauge.
lol i think i have that problem too :crap:

thump
07-19-2005, 02:55 AM
lol i think i have that problem too :crap:

I tried to pry a flathead underneath and make it so that the t nut was pulled agaisnt the box.. to no avail it spun some more and worsened the problem. I know we can't be the only one's. Looks like I'm stuck at 3.5 @30 hz's for a while.

note to all reading.. T-NUTS ****!!!!!!..

vasilios
07-19-2005, 03:07 AM
so what are the correct procedures, tools, and screws for mounting a sub into an enclosure, especially if i wanted to remove the sub and then place it back in that enclosure with out damaging the enclosure?

thump
07-19-2005, 03:13 AM
so what are the correct procedures, tools, and screws for mounting a sub into an enclosure, especially if i wanted to remove the sub and then place it back in that enclosure with out damaging the enclosure?

It all depends on what your needs are. If you are more then likely just going to screw the sub in and leave it there(that is not take in in and out a lot) dryway screws will work just fine. Since I was going to experiment with different boxes I opted to use T-nuts. Honestly if I would have been smart I would have applied some heavy duty adhesive to the t-nuts before cranking them down, then I probaly wouldn't be experiencing this problem. But on the bright side, no one is jacking this baby now :cool: .

vasilios
07-19-2005, 03:20 AM
hmm...so how do those t-nuts work or, rather, supposed to work anyway?

vasilios
07-19-2005, 03:24 AM
what about pre-drilling?....comments on the procedures and correct bit size for doing that?

Acidburn
07-19-2005, 03:54 AM
youre supposed to predrill everything
i've put subs in and out a few times using drywall screws and didnt have too much of a problem

vasilios
07-19-2005, 04:01 AM
what bit size?

Acidburn
07-19-2005, 05:29 AM
i use 1/8"

vasilios
07-19-2005, 05:33 AM
i use 1/8"

ok.

ruckus
07-19-2005, 07:34 AM
iono about you guys, i got my t-nuts in fine.

x2

Ive used them on several setups including speakers, amps, crossovers, never had a problem with em.





as for them spinning in place Im willing to bet you used a power drill to either screw in or remove them thats why you stripped the mdf they were grabbing on. Thats not a problem with the tnuts thats a problem with you being too much in a hurry and damaging the mdf.

UndercoverPunk
07-19-2005, 08:19 AM
Thats not a problem with the tnuts thats a problem with you being too much in a hurry and damaging the mdf.
X3

THUNDERBIRD
07-19-2005, 09:07 AM
pry the speaker up enough and use a hack saw and cut the bolt out

TPABlazer
07-21-2005, 03:33 PM
On my old enclosure, I used t nuts. First time thru, one t nut pused out of the mdf. Take the sub out, and glue it to the wood. going thru again, and one never tightens all the way. Stripped the mdf out. BY HAND, with a very fine thread. To get it out I dremeled the head off and pushed it thru.