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BTT_Badboy
06-25-2005, 11:12 PM
I need an idea for some compontent 5 1/4"s that will be powered by an ed nine.2. I want something under $300. Im going to have an adire audio tumult in the back running off of a jbl bp1200 in 3 ft. tuned to 33. I know that the sub will be plenty loud, but what components will be able to keep up well? I was looking at the Diamond hex with silk tweet, but i understand that they would probably like a little power. If anyone has some ideas, i would appreciate it. Thanks alot.

squeak9798
06-26-2005, 03:04 AM
You're going to need to do some serious install work to get midbass out of a 5.25" that can keep up with a Tumult. Not saying it can't be done; but it'll take one hell of an install.

Why are you only using 5.25" comps, when you have one of the highest linear displacement subwoofers on the market?

blackgeltabs
06-26-2005, 03:31 AM
Yeah no chit. XXX comps may work well if they are do-able in the install.

BTT_Badboy
06-26-2005, 04:08 AM
Back in the 'bigger were better' days (6 months ago :)) i purchased one of those. Have yet to sell it, although it does satisfy mosty of my needs. 5 1/4"s come stock in my jeep, and im not sure if i want to hack the doors yet or not, so if i can find a decent set of them i will use them. Thanks for all the help.

DJItalianICE
06-26-2005, 10:24 AM
get some high end CDT speakers that will handle 200w rms - yes they're out there. Give 'em 210 and I bet they'll keep up :naughty:

Raven
06-26-2005, 12:54 PM
Gonna go with blackgeltabs. Do something to fit XXX comps in there, because I don't think anything else will give the midbass you need.

audiolife
06-26-2005, 01:28 PM
Gonna go with blackgeltabs. Do something to fit XXX comps in there, because I don't think anything else will give the midbass you need.
yes there is but i dont think it will come at the price he wants. avi has some stout mid basses that if nothing else would be just a notch under the xxx but still being only 5.25. i know they can take a crap load of power too i used to run them with horns. sorta hard to find too. but the back of the speakers arent small at all

audiolife
06-26-2005, 01:58 PM
i guess a link might help lol http://www.avisound.com/

Raven
06-26-2005, 02:24 PM
Yeah OK, I was wrong. I thought the XXX 6.5 was unique in it's build.

audiolife
06-26-2005, 02:43 PM
unique yes in it design but umm it does what other mid basses do doesnt it? those avi's will take alot of power and will put out alot of volume even more so than the boston acoustics.

BTT_Badboy
06-26-2005, 08:58 PM
Well if I could switch over to 6.5"s and go with the XXX's, I really would. I can't put a spacer on my door and cut the door to make it fit because my window handle is right in the way. I would fab up some kicks but I have a clutch, and even with my crazy ways I don't think I could get it to fit. Also, I have the Nine.2, which will give me 100x2@4ohm. I would prefer to keep this amp since UPS just brought it a week ago. I have been looking at some CDT's, but I still dont know which ones would work best. I was browsing and came across the Boston Pro50's. How would these do with 100 watts? I am willing to be someone flexible, and will sell the amp if I have to. Thanks for all the help, all suggestions are welcome.

Decipha
06-26-2005, 09:16 PM
i only deal with boston comps... no other brands... just my personal preference

squeak9798
06-27-2005, 11:28 AM
Boston comps are very nice. Between CDT & Boston, I'd take the Boston's. Though the Pro's would definitely smile with more than 100w per side.

And check into audiolife's suggestion on those AVI.

BassAddictJ
07-04-2005, 03:35 PM
i got a pair of diamond audio m361 6.5 comps for 135 shipped brand new off ebay. they see 115watts and they keep up plenty with my XXX15 tuned to 34Hx fireing into the cabin from a baffle.........u could probly go one level higher end than those with your budget and get 5.25's and it'll be good. D.A. is great

audiolife
07-04-2005, 05:25 PM
i got a pair of diamond audio m361 6.5 comps for 135 shipped brand new off ebay. they see 115watts and they keep up plenty with my XXX15 tuned to 34Hx fireing into the cabin from a baffle.........u could probly go one level higher end than those with your budget and get 5.25's and it'll be good. D.A. is great
not trying to start a fight here so ill put it in terms that it shouldnt end up that way. what i call keeping up is a propotionally equal gain in volume between the mids and highs at all volumes as compared to the subs (including almost all the way up) now if you want it listenable where you can still make out whats going on then a good comp set with good power is a good/decent alternitive. when i say this however about 3/4's of the people who hear a balanced system preffer it vs the listenable approach. its basically what the thread starter wants to value it as.

T3mpest
07-04-2005, 10:46 PM
few people hear the type of system your describing audolife, unless we include home audio setups. In car setups usually don't work that way due to the excessive amount of subbage (i made a word up ;) ) and relatively small mids. A truly balanced SQ install is pretty cool to hear though.

audiolife
07-05-2005, 01:59 AM
few people hear the type of system your describing audolife, unless we include home audio setups. In car setups usually don't work that way due to the excessive amount of subbage (i made a word up ;) ) and relatively small mids. A truly balanced SQ install is pretty cool to hear though.
my last 4 systems did this. my reply back is why do so many people willingly design a system for less than half their music? and last i knew alot of home audio used the same sized speakers...... :crazy:

T3mpest
07-05-2005, 02:16 AM
my last 4 systems did this. my reply back is why do so many people willingly design a system for less than half their music? and last i knew alot of home audio used the same sized speakers......

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I never understood the point of massive amounts volume under 60hz when you can't even match half of it in mids or highs. To me sub-bass was always more for fill. I like my bump as much as the next kid, but I can't stand it when someone turns on a song that's like an acoustic guitar that for some reason is shaking the entire vehicle and you can't even really hear the instrument. I can deal without a sub if I have nice components, but not a nice sub with crappy comps.

azbass
07-05-2005, 02:45 AM
Well if I could switch over to 6.5"s and go with the XXX's, I really would. I can't put a spacer on my door and cut the door to make it fit because my window handle is right in the way. I would fab up some kicks but I have a clutch, and even with my crazy ways I don't think I could get it to fit. Also, I have the Nine.2, which will give me 100x2@4ohm. I would prefer to keep this amp since UPS just brought it a week ago. I have been looking at some CDT's, but I still dont know which ones would work best. I was browsing and came across the Boston Pro50's. How would these do with 100 watts? I am willing to be someone flexible, and will sell the amp if I have to. Thanks for all the help, all suggestions are welcome.

older cherokee i assume, i have a manual with kicks, it can work

audiolife
07-05-2005, 02:54 AM
yuh but thing is you rta alot of those subs even though its "tuned to under 60 hz" its a nasty hump that goes an octive higher lol my subs still a tad warm but i really dont wanna waste a few hours tweaking it without an rta. no point in guessing games. alot of people that get steered into a super comp set with power as their first purchase usually end up realizing they dont need 2000 watts of sub bass. 2 of my friends even switched up their subs totally (lol neither of which i heard only seen pics) but one dropped a 12w7 for 2 kicker l7 8's and another dropped a xxx matched with a mmats class d amp to a single id 12v3 off a kicker 600.1. (both are online gaming buddies lol) one bought a set of focal utopias the other mb quart refferences to start out with. what was even more suprising is their tastes in music also changed once they could hear the music propperly (both were into rap as their fav to spanish/ethnic pop/dance type music and the other flipped to trance lol). im not saying one way in necessarily right and the other is wrong im just saying dont limit yourself to what everyone else has especially if you are always changing subs and sub amps maybe its the other end of the spectrum you really dislike. happens alot.