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Zylo
06-22-2005, 11:36 PM
I've never heard of them before, but seem promising. :)

I was wondering how the 8.2 Iridium 8" woofer performs vs the 6.5". Obviously, it will have better low end response, but does it hold flat to the tweeter crossover point? I may be over analyzing this, as the audible difference may be negligible.

Also, what material are the speakers made out of? I'm a sucker for smooth sounding silk tweeters, and frightenly the DLS' appear to utilize aluminum or such :(

I was looking at prices and specs of Diamond D9 and the usual CDT ES-620Z/Focal lineups when I found these :)

Also in the latest search for equipment, I noticed that the ED 6500 component set uses woofers and crossovers that look **** near identical to CDT. Could it be that the ED 6500 uses the same woofers as the CDT ES series (sans 07)?

flakko
06-22-2005, 11:37 PM
yes... DLS is quite the hot setup... yes....

thank you god,

cjjackson85
06-22-2005, 11:39 PM
Don't get the ES-620s I want the DLSs now... :drool:

Zylo
06-23-2005, 12:07 AM
Don't get the ES-620s I want the DLSs now... :drool:

So how did they just miraculously "come to be" ??

And you think they are actually better than ES-620Z's? If so, why? :)

cjjackson85
06-23-2005, 12:09 AM
Come to be? WTF!

I say they are better because I have heard both and I like the DLS better...

/story

Zylo
06-23-2005, 12:13 AM
Come to be? WTF!

I say they are better because I have heard both and I like the DLS better...

I've never heard of them before.

When I think of high end, I used to think Morel, Dynaudio, CDT, Focal.. and the high end DIY such as Vifa, Scanspeak, etc. Never ever ever heard of DLS until I stumbled upon them searching the site.

And as far as the "DLS sounds better" comment, could you clarify on what you liked better?

cjjackson85
06-23-2005, 12:14 AM
I couldn't tell you the history of the company sorry.

Maybe the site tells ya... www.dls.de

RumbleNTheTrunk
06-23-2005, 12:23 AM
What would you consider Diamond Audio? I personally consider them high-end...

cjjackson85
06-23-2005, 12:25 AM
You would...

Nightskye
06-23-2005, 12:31 AM
Come to be? WTF!

I say they are better because I have heard both and I like the DLS better...

/story

Didn't you have Iridiums in your sig? What happened to them :uhoh:

cjjackson85
06-23-2005, 12:33 AM
Didn't you have Iridiums in your sig? What happened to them :uhoh:
I cancelled the order and got another 2500d... shouldda gotten the DLS...

RumbleNTheTrunk
06-23-2005, 12:36 AM
You would...
I would because I own them? No I was just wondering why that company wasnt included in high end...I would also include rainbow

Zylo
06-23-2005, 12:40 AM
What would you consider Diamond Audio? I personally consider them high-end...

With the D9's weighing in at 1200+ they better be high end! I can get CDT ES-620Z's for ~ $800, so price is weighing a major role in that decision. I just really wonder if you would even notice a $400 dollar difference between the two. Same situtation on the DLS's. The 8" Iridium ones are EXPENSIVE, but if they are truly worthy over the 6.5" Iridium ones. And the cones only take 100W, and are made of paper, I kinda wonder how durable they are, especially at really loud volumes.

The other angle is that these are going into factory locations (03 F150) so imaging isn't going to be that great. Not to mention I mostly listen to KMK (which is rap) and Techno. I almost get the feeling these are designed for Jazz, Classical, etc. :)

And the final twist is whatever I buy (unless I want JL, MB Quart or Best Buy stocked brands, I will have to buy them sight unseen and unheard :(


I would because I own them? No I was just wondering why that company wasnt included in high end...I would also include rainbow

The list was not all-inclusive.

scrappy
06-23-2005, 02:45 AM
Get the DLS I have the ur6s. They are made out of micro fiber I think remind me of what the old . They ate really nice the mid bass isnt great but I dont have deadened doors yet and I am only giving them half the power they want. I dont know about iridiums though. I listen to rap and they sound good to me. The tweeter is silk in my set

cdj
06-23-2005, 02:51 AM
If you want a chance to hear what some different systems sound like, check out some of the competitions. There are several coming up that aren't that far from "nerk".

Go to the MECA site, choose 2005 and Ohio, for a list:

http://events.mecacaraudio.com/index.php

cjj2d
06-23-2005, 10:39 AM
what do the Iridium 6.2s run???

Schuey2002
06-23-2005, 03:14 PM
^^
http://www.infinitecaraudio.com/cgi-bin/icastore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=IRIDIUM62

You might be able to get them cheaper through Tplaya07 (I think he's the DLS seller everyone uses..) ;)

GSteg
06-24-2005, 04:15 AM
Dealers around here are selling the Diamond Audio D9 for about $900. Not a bad price. They sound very nice, except the tweeters weren't dynamic enough for me.



I'm beginning to like the DLS more and more as I hear them. I was definitely a CDT fan until I came across other speakers within the price.

GrandMarkie
06-24-2005, 04:00 PM
I just received my 6.2 Iridiums (front) and UR6S (rear) for $830 shipped..obviously not an authorized dealer, but when it comes to saving that much, i'm all for it.

I only got the fronts installed thus far, and holy $h*t, amazing speakers.

http://www.grandmarkie.com/dynamat/after.jpg

They are still in their break-in period, so I can't judge 100% as of yet.

adam71
06-24-2005, 04:47 PM
I've never heard of them before, but seem promising. :)

I was wondering how the 8.2 Iridium 8" woofer performs vs the 6.5". Obviously, it will have better low end response, but does it hold flat to the tweeter crossover point? I may be over analyzing this, as the audible difference may be negligible.

Also, what material are the speakers made out of? I'm a sucker for smooth sounding silk tweeters, and frightenly the DLS' appear to utilize aluminum or such :(

I was looking at prices and specs of Diamond D9 and the usual CDT ES-620Z/Focal lineups when I found these :)

Also in the latest search for equipment, I noticed that the ED 6500 component set uses woofers and crossovers that look **** near identical to CDT. Could it be that the ED 6500 uses the same woofers as the CDT ES series (sans 07)?






I was told by someone on this forum that the ED midbass drivers were made by CDT and rebadged. And that the ED subs were made by Image Dynamics and rebadged for ED. I'm not 100% but that is what I was told.

adam71
06-24-2005, 04:57 PM
I've never heard of them before, but seem promising. :)

I was wondering how the 8.2 Iridium 8" woofer performs vs the 6.5". Obviously, it will have better low end response, but does it hold flat to the tweeter crossover point? I may be over analyzing this, as the audible difference may be negligible.

Also, what material are the speakers made out of? I'm a sucker for smooth sounding silk tweeters, and frightenly the DLS' appear to utilize aluminum or such :(


In my very humble opinion I can't see any reason to get a 2 way component that sports and 8" mid. Unless you're in a vehicle where space is a minimum and there is no room for a sub and you want to feed full range to those components at low to moderate vol levels. To me 6 1/2" 2 ways work just fine if you can't find a place for a 3 way setup. Running an 8" is too close to a sub in my opinion. But I guess it would produce some insanely loud and clear midbass though.

If you have any kind of eq or if you're listening to them off axis those tweeters wouldn't be that hard to tame. I mean if you think about it metal tweeters (whether they're aluminum or titanium) were designed to handle more power than silk so don't be too quick to decide against tweeters just because they're metal.

dflock
06-24-2005, 05:28 PM
Dealers around here are selling the Diamond Audio D9 for about $900. Not a bad price. They sound very nice, except the tweeters weren't dynamic enough for me.



I'm beginning to like the DLS more and more as I hear them. I was definitely a CDT fan until I came across other speakers within the price.


I ran CDT EuroSports [6.5"] for about a year. Then purchased Iridiums. The DLS speakers are much better. I thought the CDTs were awesome, then got the DLS and was amazed. They are much sharper in the vocal department and have tighter bass lines. So I wouldn't think twice about getting DLS. I found my DLS Iridiums on eBay from a Seller "dimensionaudio" for $499+shipping, brand new.

GSteg
06-24-2005, 05:35 PM
I was told by someone on this forum that the ED midbass drivers were made by CDT and rebadged. And that the ED subs were made by Image Dynamics and rebadged for ED. I'm not 100% but that is what I was told.


ED mids were probably not rebadged, but more like being based off them. And of course, CDT speakers, i'm sure are Vifa-based drivers.

Not too sure about ED subwoofers. I don't keep up with them anymore because there is no use if ED comes out with new subs everyday :crazy::p:

GSteg
06-24-2005, 05:37 PM
I ran CDT EuroSports [6.5"] for about a year. Then purchased Iridiums. The DLS speakers are much better. I thought the CDTs were awesome, then got the DLS and was amazed. They are much sharper in the vocal department and have tighter bass lines. So I wouldn't think twice about getting DLS. I found my DLS Iridiums on eBay from a Seller "dimensionaudio" for $499+shipping, brand new.


Good price! I'm glad you're happy with them. Last I heard were the Iridium 6.2 in an undeadened-doored-mercedes :D They definitely sounded better than the CDT Audio I've had and heard by car. The tweeters of the CDTs are ehh, bland. lol. :eyebrow:

3.5Max6spd
06-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Many great 8" drivers out there, that not only have fantastic midbass but can also play critical midrange well....

flakko
06-24-2005, 06:35 PM
if yer lookin for midbass, check out the eD eu700 looks promising. :)

Justintoxicated
06-24-2005, 08:38 PM
wow your door looks great with the 6.2 in there! Are you going to deaden the outer door skin also?

Vash
06-24-2005, 09:52 PM
Hey Justintoxicated im from the LBC to mang. Anyways, I have the Iridium 8.3 on order (3 way) and post a reivew on that. I came from the CDT camp. I ordered from Tim, t0playa or somethign like that here on the forums. Good deal!

GrandMarkie
06-24-2005, 11:30 PM
wow your door looks great with the 6.2 in there! Are you going to deaden the outer door skin also?

It sounds even better :naughty:

But yeah, i'll end up deadening that as well once I find out how much deadener I have left over.

Expy2000
06-24-2005, 11:32 PM
I had the Iridiums 6.2's

Sold em

Got the Rainbow CMX's

About the same..


:)

Nightskye
06-25-2005, 12:17 AM
Also, what material are the speakers made out of? I'm a sucker for smooth sounding silk tweeters, and frightenly the DLS' appear to utilize aluminum or such :(


I believe all DLS tweeters are silk. All the separates anyways, haven't looked at the coax.

I installed mine today w00t! Very laid back sound. I like it. I'm only running 50Wrms to them right now, I think they want more power, but I'm going to break them in before I change anything.

As for being the hot setup, they have a full range of speakers, and the lower end Classic series might not be so hot. Haven't heard them though.

GSteg
06-25-2005, 01:34 AM
The DLS Iridiums are almost as good as the Seas Lotus Reference! :D:D:D:D

3.5Max6spd
06-25-2005, 09:44 AM
I had the Iridiums 6.2's

Sold em

Got the Rainbow CMX's

About the same..


:)

;) so how you like'm? they can take some power I bet .....
My CS tweets are the loudest, smoothest silks I've ever heard- just gotta find an 8" driver to keep up...lol.

elduderino
06-25-2005, 11:42 AM
The DLS tweets are all silk domes above like $150 MSRP.

The tweeters have a rear tuned chamber like the Scan-Speaks so that they have an ultra-low Fs, allowing them to go down and meet the woofer well. Of course, if they thought the two-way was perfect, they probably wouldn't make a kit with a 3" dome mid, would they? : )

The 3-way in kicks sounds great.

audiolife
06-25-2005, 11:54 AM
The DLS tweets are all silk domes above like $150 MSRP.

The tweeters have a rear tuned chamber like the Scan-Speaks so that they have an ultra-low Fs, allowing them to go down and meet the woofer well. Of course, if they thought the two-way was perfect, they probably wouldn't make a kit with a 3" dome mid, would they? : )

The 3-way in kicks sounds great.
like with so many things its all about making sales ;)

3.5Max6spd
06-27-2005, 10:50 AM
The DLS tweets are all silk domes above like $150 MSRP.

The tweeters have a rear tuned chamber like the Scan-Speaks so that they have an ultra-low Fs, allowing them to go down and meet the woofer well.
Thats called 'acoustic volume', its actually used alot by other high end manufacturers


Of course, if they thought the two-way was perfect, they probably wouldn't make a kit with a 3" dome mid, would they? : )

Its all about application. Those that cannot get adequate midrange response due to imaging and vehicle driver location restraints can benefit from a dedicated midrange(if adequatly positioned). I've actually heard 2way sets that impressed me much more than 3way sets(tuning becomes more challenging)

Greg200SE-R
06-28-2005, 07:15 AM
I have had both the UR6 set and the Iridium 6.2 set in my car. Both of these absolutely sing. The iridiums are stunning in every way, but need careful installation to fully extract its potential. The UR6 can be dropped in and sound great in any situation.


I was wondering how the 8.2 Iridium 8" woofer performs vs the 6.5". Obviously, it will have better low end response, but does it hold flat to the tweeter crossover point? I may be over analyzing this, as the audible difference may be negligible.)?

Good question, some posts on this board mention that the Iridium 6.5 is more musical than the "original" 8" but a new version of the 8" 'mid' is available. I have no experience with the 8 but I have the 6.2 set and these play as well as everyone says. Transparent and with very little resonance, the mids are extremely detailed but I've found only one drawback - they tend to sound a bit harsh (in my car anyway) above around 2.5KHz... but that's not a problem if your system is active because the UR1 tweeters play clean and smooth down to 1250Hz. My XO is 1.6KHz/24dB and the set just Suckin' Fings!


Also, what material are the speakers made out of? I'm a sucker for smooth sounding silk tweeters, and frightenly the DLS' appear to utilize aluminum or such :()?

Aluminum in DLS tweeters? Absolutely NOT. You heard wrong. DLS tweeters are amazing. The UR1s are amazingly smooth and delicate. Oh, and about the basketball grill: I'd rather have a low-diffraction (but very protective) BBall grill than a perforated mesh screen in front of my tweets anyday. Form follows function?

I also have had the DLS UR6 set in my car and is one incredible sounding set out of the box. Great, balanced sound w/nice midbass. Same tweeter as the Iridium 6.2, but silghtly different mid (poly cone rather than paper). Not as installation-dependent as the Iridium 6.2. In my opinion, the UR6 mid has an overall smoother sound than the Iridium mid, but the Iridium makes up with a light and well-damped cone for transparency, imaging and quick impacts.

I have not heard DLS' lower or middle line, but you can't go wrong with the comps mentioned above.

shtoops
06-28-2005, 10:48 AM
I just recently dropped in the UR6s in my 98 civic. They are without a doubt the finest speakers I have had the pleasure of owning. (I've had cdt, boston, focal, jl, and rainbow). The tweeter is freaking huge and I still need to find a better way to properly install them, but with that aside, the midrange brings out the vocals in ways I have never heard in a car. I really don't know why people on this board complain about the midbass lacking in the ur6s set, my set hasn't gone past the break in period and they play down to 65hz with no problem. Now, I don't need bass that rattles my knee caps up front. My 12w6v2 takes duty below 65hz and blends effortlessly with the mid-bass. I listen to a decent range of music from classic rock to rap and everything inbetween, and the ur6s set will play that musical range with authority. I can't imagine what the iridium set sounds like (as I am in texas and there are no authorized DLS dealers in my area). I wouldn't think twice, grab DLS asap.

djdilliodon
06-28-2005, 02:09 PM
I've never heard of them before.

When I think of high end, I used to think Morel, Dynaudio, CDT, Focal.. and the high end DIY such as Vifa, Scanspeak, etc. Never ever ever heard of DLS until I stumbled upon them searching the site.

And as far as the "DLS sounds better" comment, could you clarify on what you liked better?

Morel makes the higher end sets for dls. To my understanding they also make the diamond d9 and the pg elate sets. I have had both the UR-6 and iridium 6.2 set. Best results i had was in kicks and they sounded very nice. In doors imo def not there full potential. I prefer the sound of the iridium set in kicks over the cdt es's. I also like the hd cdt's better than the es's. I have the 07's now and so far best yet. Soon im going to try the seas stuff out see how they are.

adam71
06-28-2005, 05:10 PM
Morel makes the higher end sets for dls. To my understanding they also make the diamond d9 and the pg elate sets. I have had both the UR-6 and iridium 6.2 set. Best results i had was in kicks and they sounded very nice. In doors imo def not there full potential. I prefer the sound of the iridium set in kicks over the cdt es's. I also like the hd cdt's better than the es's. I have the 07's now and so far best yet. Soon im going to try the seas stuff out see how they are.


Geee, must be freakin nice to be able to own a car audio business and get try out all those great brand name components. Sure wish I had those opportunities. **walks away with his head down** :(

djdilliodon
06-28-2005, 05:16 PM
Geee, must be freakin nice to be able to own a car audio business and get try out all those great brand name components. Sure wish I had those opportunities. **walks away with his head down** :(

hey some stuff i had to pay full retail for and then see just for myself it was a huge waste of money lol. That is one reason i like to try stuff out to see if it really is good. Im one of those guys that doesnt take peoples word i have to hear it myself. It cost money but i usually break even when i resell it and if i dont its worth it since i got to test it :)

Justintoxicated
06-28-2005, 07:51 PM
Morel makes the higher end sets for dls. To my understanding they also make the diamond d9 and the pg elate sets. I have had both the UR-6 and iridium 6.2 set. Best results i had was in kicks and they sounded very nice. In doors imo def not there full potential. I prefer the sound of the iridium set in kicks over the cdt es's. I also like the hd cdt's better than the es's. I have the 07's now and so far best yet. Soon im going to try the seas stuff out see how they are.

If I put the Iridium in the doors though they wills till sound great in comparison to other speakers right? I sealed up the doors pretty well (obviously there are some holes for cables and clips) and used about 1/2 roll of RAAMAT on each door + that foam they sell) Was this a waste? I don't want to install in the kicks I want my install to look factory and sound great.

djdilliodon
06-29-2005, 12:07 PM
If I put the Iridium in the doors though they wills till sound great in comparison to other speakers right? I sealed up the doors pretty well (obviously there are some holes for cables and clips) and used about 1/2 roll of RAAMAT on each door + that foam they sell) Was this a waste? I don't want to install in the kicks I want my install to look factory and sound great.


They dont sound horrible but ib the cdt;s sounded better to me. If u do go IB dont get to crazy with the power and with a well deadened door it will def help.

Justintoxicated
06-29-2005, 03:20 PM
well my tweeters will not be in the door just the mids...I'll be pushing 75 watts x2 to them.

I guess there is only one way to find out ho well they work.