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AMende
06-21-2005, 12:23 AM
Hey everyone this is my first attempt at a fiberglass box so i thought i would post some pics because it never would have happened without all the info ive gotten from this forum. I also have a question about some door panels. (sorry the pics have a blue tint i took them at night and it is from the flash)

Box in the trunk (i will be fleecing tommarow)
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0601.jpg


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0599.jpg


On the floor
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0611.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0608.jpg

AMende
06-21-2005, 12:30 AM
Ok - now for the door panels. This is what the door panels on my car look like (1996 chrysler seabring.) These are not my door panels. Mine are cracked I was thinking about doing something out of fiberglass but am open to suggestions. I found a pic of some door pods that somebody else made and will post that after my door panel pics.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0602.jpg

Then entire door panel:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0604.jpg

Here are the ones i found that somebody else made:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/230248_20_full.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/230248_12_full.jpg




Any help and/or feedback is greatly appreciated!
-Adam

Insomniac119
06-21-2005, 12:34 AM
I'd find the same door panels from a junk yard but not cracked up if possible and work on those. Frome the picture, it' looks like he made a fiberglass peice bassed on the peice it replaced.

AMende
06-21-2005, 12:42 AM
The panels in my car are cracked, but i could probably still work off of them. Would it be better to make a baffle in the current door panels and work from there or to trace the outline onto say 1/4" plywood and use that as backing and make a baffle off of that. Is this making sense? IE: make plywood base that will hook into where teh other speaker cover goes and suspend baffle onto that then stretch cloth from baffle to the edges of the plywood and fiberglass that? Also, since im going to be making new speaker pods, should they be sealed or infinite baffle and what kind of speaker would you recomend (6x9 is stock in this car)
thanks!
Adam

Woodmister
06-21-2005, 12:53 AM
Looks pretty decent, i just finished my rings eairler today...

97montels
06-21-2005, 02:33 AM
Looks good, get that fleeced and post more pictures durring the day.

TPABlazer
06-21-2005, 11:20 AM
that enclosure looks like It will tip over when the sub is put in it...

chinny
06-21-2005, 01:08 PM
that enclosure looks like It will tip over when the sub is put in it...

i though the same, but its his 1st try he did awsome! keep it up!

jujumantb
06-21-2005, 01:13 PM
that enclosure looks like It will tip over when the sub is put in it...
Usually you screw it down to the body.

AMende
06-21-2005, 01:51 PM
I've had the sub in the enclosure in the car and it did not tip. I would have had the sub ring closer in, but i did not have enough volume that way so i pulled it apart and put the ring further out. The box will be screwed into the body so it is really a non-issue. Thanks for all the feedback!
-Adam

ruckus
06-21-2005, 05:14 PM
I would work over the existing panel so the clips fit back in tight. but you might ruin the panels keep that in mind before you go balls out on your own panels you might end up buying some from a junk yard anyways.

AMende
06-21-2005, 10:58 PM
I would work over the existing panel so the clips fit back in tight. but you might ruin the panels keep that in mind before you go balls out on your own panels you might end up buying some from a junk yard anyways.

The panels on my car are already cracked and ugly anyway. Would all of the holes allow the fiberglass resin to stick to the plastic? I could always just get clips that match and add them onto the plywood base.

AMende
06-22-2005, 10:22 PM
Alright so i got it fleeced today. Here are a couple of pics. Hopefully ill get it 'glassed tommarow.

Before the resin:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0612.jpg


In the car after the resin:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0617.jpg


Thanks again for all the help and feedback!
-Adam

DBfan187
06-22-2005, 10:26 PM
Nice job!

I just hope you're happy w/ the end results, because it looks like it doesn't have much airspace.

AMende
06-22-2005, 10:38 PM
You're right. I just measured with packing peanuts and im off by about 150 in^3. Im going to pull the fleece off tommarow and extend the base with 1/4" plywood fiberglassed onto the shell.
-Adam

Insomniac119
06-22-2005, 11:35 PM
The panels in my car are cracked, but i could probably still work off of them. Would it be better to make a baffle in the current door panels and work from there or to trace the outline onto say 1/4" plywood and use that as backing and make a baffle off of that. Is this making sense? IE: make plywood base that will hook into where teh other speaker cover goes and suspend baffle onto that then stretch cloth from baffle to the edges of the plywood and fiberglass that? Also, since im going to be making new speaker pods, should they be sealed or infinite baffle and what kind of speaker would you recomend (6x9 is stock in this car)
thanks!
Adam

If your making custom speaker pods for your doors then buy a set of comps or good 6.5" coaxials. Round speakers are usually better than oval shaped speakers. And I don't think it makes a big difference in what type/how big the enclosure is, it might depend on what speakers. Alpine sealed their type r speakers in their show car so that's what I did with my typre r's.

AMende
06-22-2005, 11:48 PM
UPDATE!
I tore the fleece off because of my lack of volume and fiberglassed on an extension to the base. This should kill 2 birds with one stone. It should help to stabalize the enclosure and give the extra volume i need. here is a pic of the addition.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0623.jpg

feedback on this fix would be great!
-Adam

DBfan187
06-22-2005, 11:53 PM
hope it wasn't something I said...

AMende
06-22-2005, 11:55 PM
I'm glad you said it :) I'd rather fix it now than have a box i wasnt happy with!
-Adam

AMende
06-28-2005, 11:44 PM
Ok so i refleeced the box with the extension added. Looks like enough airspace this time. I layed the first layer of glass down and hopefully the rest tommarow. Here are pics:


In the car (like the fabric? $2 a yard at walmart):
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0625.jpg


On the floor:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/amende/KIF_0630.jpg

thanks for help/feedback
-Adam

AzGrower
06-29-2005, 10:35 AM
Why not make the base even larger, like incorporate that entire side trunk panel area. It looks abit odd how the shape is, its like its just "popping" out. By making a larger base, the flow of the curves is much better and more asthetically pleasing to the eye.

nikosbuddy
06-29-2005, 10:56 AM
see this is real fiberglass, lol, around here shops sell....boxes with fiberglass over them...but the sad thing is you can still see the box...
Mike

AMende
06-29-2005, 12:53 PM
This enclosure gives me adequate space for my sub. Fiberglass is too expensive to start over and make it larger. Plus I like that it accentuates that there is a sub there and takes less trunk space. If i did it again i would probably make the base go further, but to me this looks good, works well, and leaves me with space in the trunk.

bigred78797
06-29-2005, 04:10 PM
Dude you should really keep the whole flower pattern going Fiber glass on the inside and just do a quick polish on the outside :)