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jellyfish420
06-17-2005, 07:18 PM
i'm redoing them. the tweet is gonna be in them this time and i'm molding them to the actual kick panel from the car....

http://img100.echo.cx/img100/1258/10148911pf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img100.echo.cx/img100/9029/10148921kz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img100.echo.cx/img100/2496/10148937iw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

jellyfish420
06-17-2005, 07:19 PM
i have a question though...what do i do w/ the tweeter hole? should i seal off the back side? or will it be fine like that?

Acidburn
06-17-2005, 07:32 PM
lookin good jelly
you can just leave the tweeter hole like that

bcarpenterfhl
06-17-2005, 07:33 PM
are you asking whether the tweeter can be in free air or not? theres no problem with that.

i'm looking forward to your work man. you always come out with some bad a$$ results.

audiolife
06-17-2005, 07:39 PM
looking good

jellyfish420
06-17-2005, 08:20 PM
i'm not worried about the tweet being free air. i'm concerned about getting noise from when the mid hits, blowing out around them. you know, kinda like a leaky box:(

also, since these are gonna be pretty small should i cut out the kick panel, as if to vent the mids to the inner fender? would this give me pretty good results. kinda be IB for my mids :D

also in case you didn't see my other thread...http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=103894
i got some diff subs... i think i might put 1 of the rl-p's in the g/f's ride and take her 2 10" RE's and put them in the door:up2somet:

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 04:58 PM
i ran into some problems today. stretching the fleece turned out to be a bit(h!!!
i covered it in resin, let it sit for an hour and came back out to check it. it wasn't even drying a little bit. so i mixed up some more resin w/ like 3-4 times as much hardener than needed and painted that over top to harden all of it. i got done, and not even a min later the resin in my cup started boiling! i never seen it do that before. it was kinda cool. anyway, they're not looking to pretty right now, i got a few wrinkles. when the resin was almost dry i tried to pull as many of the wrinkles as i could up to the center of the ring so i could just cut them out. in the second pic you can see where i had to cut the material, and piece it together.
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/9208/10149022vs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img286.echo.cx/img286/8107/10149034yu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

negativezeroz
06-18-2005, 05:03 PM
hell of a lot better job than i could do..since ive never done it..i need to start one something small to get good at it..cant wait for final pics tho good job so far mang

req
06-18-2005, 05:12 PM
id of used somthing thinner like grill cloth or somthing. fleece seems to be too heavy to mould around the factory kicks.

azbass
06-18-2005, 05:33 PM
ick, try an pull it off an try it again. becareful wraping the kick to tight, as when it hardens it will warp the plastic.

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 05:57 PM
tell you the truth (just don't tell my old lady) its one of the curtains :laugh:
it's pretty thin. i tried using an old tee shirt, w/ no luck so i grabbed a curtain, cause they were pretty thin.
and take it off?? no way it ain't that bad. nothing that i cant fix w/ the mat and bondo. i think that is why there is so many wrinkles, cause when i wrapped it, i did it kinda loose so i DIDN'T warp the plastic.

azbass
06-18-2005, 06:00 PM
ok, mang. good luck.

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 07:49 PM
got on one layer of matt. notice a couple of stratigicly placed air bubbles :up2somet:
they are kinda bridging the gap between wrinkles. the next layer will strengthen the bubble. i'm feelin better now, they're starting to take shape :D
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/5613/10149040th.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3761/10149053jw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Starky
06-18-2005, 08:05 PM
you fiberglassed over the Hole?....have fun cutting that off

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 08:22 PM
you fiberglassed over the Hole?....have fun cutting that off
there is no mat over the hole...just resin. die grinder will take it right off ;)

chubby
06-18-2005, 08:24 PM
x2





ew

azbass
06-18-2005, 08:36 PM
looks like youll have to do a lot of cutting,

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 09:28 PM
MORE PICS!!! see it don't look that bad :p: the second pic... i didn't account for the dash coming down that far. so the 3rd, you can see i patched in a piece of material. and now were back in the running.

p.s. i did all that cutting w/ a pair of sissors :D

http://img92.echo.cx/img92/8153/10149081fi.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img92.echo.cx/img92/5643/10149093yx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img92.echo.cx/img92/4260/10149120qa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

req
06-18-2005, 09:33 PM
you are better off just filling that in with kittyhair instead of trying to use cloth\resin jellyman.

just rough it up with some 60 grit, clean it off - and fill it with kittyhair...

the rest is a bit overboard, but oh well. i would grind the FU.CK out of that before you go any further though. make it smooth enough so you can run your hand along it, and use a router ro clean the inside edge of the baffle - borrow one if you have to.

and dont forget to soak the inside with resin!

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 09:52 PM
you are better off just filling that in with kittyhair instead of trying to use cloth\resin jellyman.

just rough it up with some 60 grit, clean it off - and fill it with kittyhair...

the rest is a bit overboard, but oh well. i would grind the FU.CK out of that before you go any further though. make it smooth enough so you can run your hand along it, and use a router ro clean the inside edge of the baffle - borrow one if you have to.

and dont forget to soak the inside with resin!
i don't have any kittyhair, i'm broke, and i got a gallon of resin and a box of mat.....

and i plan on cleaning the baffle, i just cut it out a little to make sure the mid fit..

saywhat?
06-18-2005, 09:58 PM
i don't have any kittyhair, i'm broke, and i got a gallon of resin and a box of mat.....

and i plan on cleaning the baffle, i just cut it out a little to make sure the mid fit..


ur gunna have a pod that looks like the rocky mountains with those supplies...u will NEVER get it smooth enuff for primer even.

jellyfish420
06-18-2005, 11:42 PM
ur gunna have a pod that looks like the rocky mountains with those supplies...u will NEVER get it smooth enuff for primer even.
watch me :up2somet:

ruckus
06-19-2005, 12:17 AM
umm quite a difference between that kick and the yellow one in the background there man.

dbornotdb
06-19-2005, 01:07 AM
I like it. Much better than the olds ones if you ask me.

I see you having them smooth in a day or two.

jellyfish420
06-19-2005, 01:15 AM
I like it. Much better than the olds ones if you ask me.

I see you having them smooth in a day or two.
thank you, i appreciate it! this is how i wanted to do it the first time...but i had never glassed before that, and lacked the know how.

jellyfish420
06-19-2005, 01:19 AM
umm quite a difference between that kick and the yellow one in the background there man.
thats the old one. i haven't even got around to starting on that one yet. i might start that one tommorow. i have a feeling the driverside is gonna be a little tougher...:(

creater
06-19-2005, 01:37 AM
dude u get a thumbs up from me....looks good

req
06-19-2005, 01:56 AM
i don't have any kittyhair, i'm broke, and i got a gallon of resin and a box of mat.....

and i plan on cleaning the baffle, i just cut it out a little to make sure the mid fit..

okay then, mix up some resin with some sawdust (im sure you can get some of that :laugh: ) and fill in the low spots. use the angle grinder to even it all out, and put a smooth coat of resin on top.

but in that top corner part, i seriosuly suggest NOT putting more cloth there - just rough up that kick to hell with some low-grit paper, and do the sawdust\resin combo to fill it in. id of used thinner matte on a project like this :(

Starky
06-19-2005, 08:51 AM
just curious, what are these kicks pointing to?

jellyfish420
06-19-2005, 12:14 PM
just curious, what are these kicks pointing to?
well...me, what else? :crazy:

Starky
06-19-2005, 12:20 PM
well Ive heard of some people pointing them towards the dome light, and others pointing them to head rest on the other side...so Jw

audiolife
06-19-2005, 01:35 PM
depends on if its on or off axis. to me its always a good starting point being slightly off and work from there. i also hate kitty hair never had to mess with it but then again i dont paint my glass lol i also think painted glass is over done and lacks personality...

Buckshot
06-19-2005, 02:02 PM
depends on if its on or off axis. to me its always a good starting point being slightly off and work from there. i also hate kitty hair never had to mess with it but then again i dont paint my glass lol i also think painted glass is over done and lacks personality...


.... cool. You ****. :) Lol, I think you should finish these with blue astro-turf. :greedy:

jellyfish420
06-20-2005, 07:26 PM
i started today by sanding a little, then laying one last layer of fiberglass cloth. then i went and fiberglassed the inside alittle. last i decided that i was gonna customize the grill a little. it'll look real nice once i get my g/f's 10" RE's for my doors :up2somet: ............
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/4804/10149157xb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/8711/10149162zp.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/4555/10149174yx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/9312/10149188fl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/5716/10149196rv.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/9104/10149205tx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img199.echo.cx/img199/3268/10149222wu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

2kchevy06civic
06-20-2005, 07:30 PM
nice touch to the grill

+1

snebes
06-20-2005, 07:38 PM
nice tape/painting on the grill

me likey

i wish i had some nice looking grills for my comps...

BeanII
06-21-2005, 12:31 AM
what did you spend more time on the grill or the fiberglass pod!!???




sorry dude. good luck.

Starky
06-21-2005, 01:06 AM
wheres the backing for that kick panel?

azbass
06-21-2005, 01:31 AM
sweet

req
06-21-2005, 01:54 AM
you **** at laying down fiberglass jellyman :D

stick to them cool freakin wood boxes you build :thumbsup:

jellyfish420
06-21-2005, 02:02 AM
you **** at laying down fiberglass jellyman :D

stick to them cool freakin wood boxes you build :thumbsup:
:readytog:
no one was ever perfect on there first time. and besides when its done your not gonna care how the glass looks under the paint your just gonna be like.....


d@mn those are sweet!!! i wish mine looked half that good :crying:
also if you look at the last 2 pics, the resin looks a lot smoother....i hit it w/ some sandpaper, and when i layed the glass on the inside i took and painted a nice smooth layer of resin over the whole thing.

the grill only took about 10min. long enough to lay tape over it, draw 4 circles w/ the compass, and spray it. i love painting stuff. i think thats my favorite part of fiberglass.

jellyfish420
06-21-2005, 02:03 AM
wheres the backing for that kick panel?
what do you mean wheres the backing? the hole? that hole lines up w/ the hole in to the inner fender...IB:up2somet:

req
06-21-2005, 02:24 AM
lol, im just busting your chops mr jellyman.

just take your time and try to get the glass as smooth as possible is all.

IMO - you dont even need half that much fiberglass on kickpods unless you plan on actually kicking them. :p:

jellyfish420
06-21-2005, 07:04 PM
i smoothed out the glass a little and layed a quick layer of bondo...lookin pretty good ;)

http://img35.echo.cx/img35/2872/10149252fo.jpg

http://img35.echo.cx/img35/5971/10149260pd.jpg

req
06-21-2005, 07:19 PM
lookin good jellyman!!! :D

bigred78797
06-21-2005, 08:47 PM
Pffffft... who needs mids...
Looking good.. you are now beggining to remind me that i have to do that over a friggin 11 cube box... with no power sander.

saywhat?
06-21-2005, 08:50 PM
looks good.....by the way u talked i didnt think u were gunna use filler LOL but its comin out nicely.

dbornotdb
06-21-2005, 11:49 PM
Very nice. A much better improvment over the other ones you had. I am sure you will agree.

Nice job. :cool:

jellyfish420
06-22-2005, 01:28 AM
thank you, thank you. i love the way these are turning out. they look so much better. i can finally put the grills on so i don't have to worry so much about them. and they're up off the floor. and no filler??? are you :crazy:???

nametaken
06-22-2005, 02:53 AM
looking awesome man, i just scrapped my kicks last week. hope yours turn out awesome.

snebes
06-22-2005, 03:38 AM
Pffffft... who needs mids...
Looking good.. you are now beggining to remind me that i have to do that over a friggin 11 cube box... with no power sander.

same here. Mine is only 9-10 cubes though, but most of the box wont be seen, so no sanding needed there :D

jellyfish420
06-22-2005, 11:59 PM
second coat of bondo, completly smoothed out everything. hung it up and primered it, then the final test fit before paint. i need to touch up a couple little spots w/ bondo tommorow, but its basicly done:D....the passenger side at least :crap:

http://img154.echo.cx/img154/2976/10149274no.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/3453/10149283tl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img154.echo.cx/img154/5238/10149299yp.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

just for a comparison.......
http://img133.echo.cx/img133/980/10148879er.jpg

azbass
06-23-2005, 12:04 AM
looks real good. glad it came out great like it did

JAZN
06-23-2005, 12:15 AM
youre good at sanding :)

azbass
06-23-2005, 12:20 AM
x2

saywhat?
06-23-2005, 12:22 AM
**** it looks good.....better than i thought they would come out.

req
06-23-2005, 12:35 AM
much better than they appeared to look before sanding.


now get the other side doen :)

jellyfish420
06-23-2005, 12:48 AM
much better than they appeared to look before sanding.


now get the other side doen :)
starting tommorow ;)

JAZN
06-23-2005, 01:48 AM
much better than they appeared to look before sanding.
x2, lol wow. i just went through the old pix and those do not look like the same kicks.
you're good you.

audiolife
06-23-2005, 10:01 AM
lol da sanders are cool

Insomniac119
06-23-2005, 01:41 PM
yeah they've come a long ways.

jellyfish420
06-23-2005, 06:46 PM
one done, one to go ;)
i braced a little better, and used a lighter, stretchier material. OMG it worked so much better. no panel warping, stretched real tight, no wrinkles! wow.
http://img200.echo.cx/img200/2301/10149304gu.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img200.echo.cx/img200/1065/10149316sd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img200.echo.cx/img200/7119/10149328np.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

TPABlazer
06-24-2005, 11:03 AM
Just a question... why paint them yellow?

XtrmAudioCncpts
06-24-2005, 11:13 AM
because he must really like yellow

pwnt by pat
06-24-2005, 11:15 AM
what material is that

saywhat?
06-24-2005, 11:27 AM
courderoy!!!!!!!!! LOL looks awsome man!......i may order a nine.2 and some re comps, are those the regular comps? how do u like em?

saywhat?
06-24-2005, 11:33 AM
oh, just to be safe i would run 2 staples into the tweeter hole

BeanII
06-24-2005, 11:47 AM
why didn't you build them both at the same time?

its_bacon12
06-24-2005, 12:10 PM
very impressive..

lol courderoy - gh3tt0 sh1t

i plan to do my stock kicks up with 4" midranges, ill need a little help from someone nearby for that



chris i see you reading this lol...ill call you later today about pickin up the sub/box - ill be in pittsford around 3 ish so i can probly run over to your house and grab it :veryhapp:

foreman
06-24-2005, 12:15 PM
And how did you know i'd be reading this? Its true......:) Ok, i'll be here. I'm debating scrapping my Q-forms and making a set for myself.....just wish i had time...(finish the kitchen, make kicks......hmmmm) If i could just keep my wife busy for a weekend.......
BTW, nice job on the kicks so far, makes me wanna build my own!

Chevyaudio
06-24-2005, 12:22 PM
yeah dude good job you are freakin awsome at sanding. Just a question did you have a bunch of tiny pinholes in your kicks, i just got through with my fiberglass project and it took me a whole day just with spot putty going back and filling small holes. I wanted to make some kicks but the clutch and parking break pedal got in the way so i just cut the grill outa the door pannel and extened and aimed the mids.

Insomniac119
06-24-2005, 01:41 PM
Good job, but why one at a time? I'd be easier to do both at once.

jellyfish420
06-24-2005, 04:18 PM
the material for the second one is an old tee shirt/wife beater thing. real stretchy and thin...worked REAL good (hint,hint);) i did them one at a time...i don't know thats just the way i did it, either way i would of still had the same steps to do, meaning it would of taken the same time. these are the RE 6.5 comps. my other tweet and mid is in the mail on the way back right now. i think thats one reason i wasn't in a hurry to get both sides done, i only got one side right now. i'm almost done w/ the driverside pics when i get off work


*tease*;)

azbass
06-24-2005, 04:20 PM
looks great man

jellyfish420
06-24-2005, 07:13 PM
got alot done today:D got it all glassed. layed the bondo, sanded it smooth, and the primer is drying right now. i also got the other grill painted. if i get to painting it tonite, i'll have finished pics up later....but for now here is the work i got done today.

http://img97.echo.cx/img97/7555/10149346ml.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4728/10149358kp.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
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http://img97.echo.cx/img97/400/10149411jm.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

pwnt by pat
06-24-2005, 07:46 PM
might have wanted to use a thinner mdf ring for the baffle but still, nice job. It just looks like there will be a lot of room.

saywhat?
06-24-2005, 07:57 PM
yeah dude good job you are freakin awsome at sanding. Just a question did you have a bunch of tiny pinholes in your kicks, i just got through with my fiberglass project and it took me a whole day just with spot putty going back and filling small holes. I


i want to say pinholes come from spreading to dry of a mix. (meannig bondo) try either working faster, or not using so much hardner.

jellyfish420
06-24-2005, 08:19 PM
once i got the first one done i realized i should of used like 1/4" mdf for the baffle instead of 3/4"...but i wanted the second to match so, oh well. i know for next time now ;)

dbornotdb
06-24-2005, 11:17 PM
I use 1/4" hardboard for the baffles and 1/2" MDF for the flush rings.
Works out great.


It looks like you learned alot with that first one cause that second one looks like it was smoother sailing. Great job.

InhumanAcura
06-24-2005, 11:50 PM
i think kicks would come out 10x better if you would use a circle jig on the baffles...you do excellent finishing work, but the baffles in the end are what seperates them from a really nice finishing job to a nicely done set of kicks....

very nice job as always though :)

jellyfish420
06-25-2005, 12:25 AM
i do the best i can w/ what i have. here is a final pic of the driver side. i'll get a pic of it in the car tommorow. in the pic you can see some kinda wavy parts...i only got it super smooth in places that you could see when mounted in the car, the rest (that you can't see) is just 1/2 way smooth.
http://img167.echo.cx/img167/2761/10149455tj.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

audiolife
06-25-2005, 04:12 AM
if you had a belt sander to tapper the outside edges of this last kick i see i would of given u a 9.9 . looks pretty **** good otherwise. the steps i go through are alot like yours. i used to get cracks in the putty i used (even kitty hair type fillers). now all i do is resin, dyna lite body filler sand it with a da and if there is anything left i go to feather lite filler. i think the main reasons many people have cracking issues is due to the ability of the filling agents to be sanded. if it cant be hand sanded with ease i wouldnt use it.

jellyfish420
06-25-2005, 09:31 AM
i rough shaped the first layer of filler w/ da, then the second layer i usually do by hand.

audiolife
06-25-2005, 09:36 AM
i never hand sand unless im testing how well it sands. i go from 80 grit up to i think 330. i dont usually paint them so i stop generally at 120 so the glue sticks better. if you plan on doing a bunch look into getting a little delta disk/band sander helps out alot and is under 100 bucks. still looks real good though

jellyfish420
06-25-2005, 02:03 PM
well i had some time to listen to them...well one side at a time. one of my 6.5's and one of my tweets is in the mail back from RE. i don't really like them. the tweets sounds better, being by the mid, in that the music blends together better, only one source. but the highs just seem very lacking on the floor. and now midrange is just gone. maybe w/ both it'll be better. but for now i'm very dissappointed w/ the sound :( maybe the RE's don't like IB. i stuffed some polyfill inside and it sounds a little better. maybe i just need some better comps, and a little more power :up2somet:

audiolife
06-25-2005, 03:04 PM
how about an eq...........mess with it enough you might even discover what other effects your crossovers have on the speakers....

jujumantb
06-25-2005, 03:08 PM
The first couple pages of this I was like OMG those will never turn out... way to prove me wrong :) But seriously that first kick looked disasterous..

jellyfish420
06-25-2005, 03:21 PM
The first couple pages of this I was like OMG those will never turn out... way to prove me wrong :) But seriously that first kick looked disasterous..
ya it didn't turn out near as good as the second. but i might end up just scraping these, and putting my comps in the doors.

my plan was comps in the kicks and 10's in the door...but i just realized that unless i get power windows, the 10's won't fit. so i might move the comps to the doors and putting 8's in the kicks... i don't know. i just need to get the other one so i can hear both sides together. it might sound totally different.

Buckshot
06-26-2005, 03:02 PM
ya it didn't turn out near as good as the second. but i might end up just scraping these, and putting my comps in the doors.

my plan was comps in the kicks and 10's in the door...but i just realized that unless i get power windows, the 10's won't fit. so i might move the comps to the doors and putting 8's in the kicks... i don't know. i just need to get the other one so i can hear both sides together. it might sound totally different.

How close are they to each other in size? I bet they'll sound much better with both. :p:

jellyfish420
06-26-2005, 07:56 PM
How close are they to each other in size? I bet they'll sound much better with both. :p:
the driver side is a little bigger.
i found the problem. it was a crossover. i had the two stacked on top of each other and one of them, you could hear the music coming through it. and then in turn the music was jumping to the other crossover. i had some old polk db crossovers that i swapped in and now it sounds 100% better.

can anyone explain the sound coming out of the crossover? better yet can someone explain how the sound coming out of one crossover can jump into the other crossover? can you not stack them on top of each other?