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audiofx81
06-09-2005, 12:27 PM
Hey guys, i hate to start another vs thread however im not going to ask which one is beetter blah blah blah. Just wondering (since i can not find older models on eclipses site) what the key differences are. 8454 i can have new for $299 on clearance since its last years model, however i really would like sirius. But if sirius is really the only major difference, since both units do e-iserve, then i will just take the 04, as $200 extra for sirius , (well $300, $100 for the tuner too) is not worth it. Let me know if anyone has 8454 specs vs this years second to top model.

gentlejax
06-09-2005, 12:30 PM
go to EBay and look. there should be 1 there and you can get the specs there

newtitan
06-09-2005, 04:35 PM
the 05 verison has

gps map
movie screen
10band EQ
sirius control
new remote
color illumination


there a good review by 3.5 in the review section page two

3.5Max6spd
06-09-2005, 05:50 PM
the 8445 is not as deep as the 8454 in the xover/peq dept- the 8454 would be equivalent the the 8455 in respect to tuning capability and total control of an active set up.

Decision is up to you- you must prioritize things- Sirius is the main reason I upgraded from my 8443. You'll find all these to be great sounding decks-good luck

Shinobi
06-09-2005, 06:16 PM
I just bought a 8454 for 289$ and will be getting it in shortly I think if you are a true audiophile you'd have more use of the 8454 down the road then a 8445 IMO

Hoot
06-09-2005, 11:28 PM
Where are you guys getting the 8454? I thought dealers were sold out....

audiofx81
06-11-2005, 01:00 AM
Ok i decided i want an 05 now, i can get a slightly used cd8445 for $350 or should i go brand new CD8455 for $500. Main thing is i am thinking with new i get the full 3yr warranty and theft warranty (from the dealer). What are your thoughts. i got Zapco amps with plenty of control so the bit extra bells and whistles on the CD8455 arent needed however the price of that new compared to the 8445 new makes it worth the difference, but the great price on the used 8445 is tempting. What would you do?

3.5Max6spd
06-13-2005, 08:49 AM
Ok i decided i want an 05 now, i can get a slightly used cd8445 for $350 or should i go brand new CD8455 for $500. Main thing is i am thinking with new i get the full 3yr warranty and theft warranty (from the dealer). What are your thoughts. i got Zapco amps with plenty of control so the bit extra bells and whistles on the CD8455 arent needed however the price of that new compared to the 8445 new makes it worth the difference, but the great price on the used 8445 is tempting. What would you do?

if money is no option- go for the longer warranty route/theft replacement...

audiofx81
06-14-2005, 08:24 AM
money is always an factor , if it wasnt for anyone on these boards they wouildnt even be posting n here :P theyd goto a shop pay whatever to get whatever they want. anyway thanks for all the input i bought a CD8445 for $460 from the shop its on order. I made a mistake the 8455 was $560, so the extra $100 for the extra control wasnt needed in my case, as myt amps have plenty of extra control. Although it sure would be nice to have the 55's extra bells / whistles, but even the guy at the shop said its really not worth $100 extra.

3.5Max6spd
06-14-2005, 10:56 AM
money is always an factor , if it wasnt for anyone on these boards they wouildnt even be posting n here :P theyd goto a shop pay whatever to get whatever they want. anyway thanks for all the input i bought a CD8445 for $460 from the shop its on order. I made a mistake the 8455 was $560, so the extra $100 for the extra control wasnt needed in my case, as myt amps have plenty of extra control. Although it sure would be nice to have the 55's extra bells / whistles, but even the guy at the shop said its really not worth $100 extra.

congrats-please post a feedback & review on this unit when you get it, lots of people have interest in that particular unit

SinongTatayMo
06-14-2005, 11:45 AM
hey man i just got the cd5425 it actually looks alot better in my car than it does on the picture from the eclipse website. and believe me when i say the SQ from the sucker is great. compared to my old alpine. and im still on my stock speakers. i should be putting in my comps within the month. but yea let me know how the higher end models fair. want to see if ill be upgrading sometime soon =P

audiofx81
06-14-2005, 12:11 PM
No problem, ill post review when it comes in later this week.

Hoot
06-14-2005, 09:41 PM
the 8445 is not as deep as the 8454 in the xover/peq dept- the 8454 would be equivalent the the 8455 in respect to tuning capability and total control of an active set up.For the record, the 8454 doesn't have nearly the crossover section that the 8455 does in terms of flexibility (crossover points and slopes) if, that is, it has the same DSP section of its 2003 model 8-volt cousins. Does it?

The 2003 models didn't have 24db/octave slope capability for all channels nor did they have the capability to high-pass below 320hz on the front channels.

Shinobi
06-18-2005, 04:07 AM
For the record the 8454 was a 2004 model ..... and it has the same cross over points and x overs as the 8455 the 8455 is jsut revised for satalite radio and new looks.

gentlejax
06-18-2005, 09:24 AM
Shinobi-

DId you get your deck yet and where did you get it? Got mine for $289 also off Ebay new in box. Everything works and it was new. still havent gotten around to playing with it.

Mike

chadillac3
06-18-2005, 06:03 PM
For the record the 8454 was a 2004 model ..... and it has the same cross over points and x overs as the 8455 the 8455 is jsut revised for satalite radio and new looks.

8455 also uses a different remote; it's gotta be better than that POS NOB remote. Slowest, least useful remote I've ever encountered. I had the 8454 in for about 2 hours, and went back to the 9835.

audiofx81
06-18-2005, 09:37 PM
i picked up the CD8445, Would have went with last years higher model for less money but i really wanted to keep my sirius and keep it direct connected. Atleast this way i got my full 3yr warranty and 1 yr theft gaurentee. by the way I love the unit, everyone knows the PROS of the unit so i will list a few things i consider cons (for my partifcular needs)

CONS:

1) No more gold pre-outs on 8v models :/ come-on eclipse for this $ make me happy (no biggie though)
2) The Time Correction ***** (unless im doing something wrong) Its basically presets. You choose door or dash for your tweets and for rear speakers door or other (rear deck) Im upset with this
3) E-Iserv ***** so far as i get errors burning the file to disc and trying to laod audio settings or motion picture (i bet it will work fine when i get a mem stick, i bought a 512 pro for $50 at costco only to realize the unit onl takes regular sticks and max 128)

So far other then that, i really like the unit and still feel out of the cons that i did not need to pay another $100 for the CD8455, Although that model does have better time correction i've heard, and the 3 extra PEQ bands. The extra EQ settings dont bother me as if I find my cars sound isnt up to par with the 7 band my unit has ill wind up adding zapco 30 bands to my setup.

Hoot
06-23-2005, 11:13 PM
Of course the 8454 is a 2004; but, what are its crossover points and available slope options?

JoseMCeee
06-24-2005, 01:18 AM
Where are you guys getting the 8454? I thought dealers were sold out....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18798&item=7526099564&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting

3.5Max6spd
06-24-2005, 07:54 AM
i picked up the CD8445, Would have went with last years higher model for less money but i really wanted to keep my sirius and keep it direct connected. Atleast this way i got my full 3yr warranty and 1 yr theft gaurentee. by the way I love the unit, everyone knows the PROS of the unit so i will list a few things i consider cons (for my partifcular needs)

CONS:

1) No more gold pre-outs on 8v models :/ come-on eclipse for this $ make me happy (no biggie though)
2) The Time Correction ***** (unless im doing something wrong) Its basically presets. You choose door or dash for your tweets and for rear speakers door or other (rear deck) Im upset with this
3) E-Iserv ***** so far as i get errors burning the file to disc and trying to laod audio settings or motion picture (i bet it will work fine when i get a mem stick, i bought a 512 pro for $50 at costco only to realize the unit onl takes regular sticks and max 128)

So far other then that, i really like the unit and still feel out of the cons that i did not need to pay another $100 for the CD8455, Although that model does have better time correction i've heard, and the 3 extra PEQ bands. The extra EQ settings dont bother me as if I find my cars sound isnt up to par with the 7 band my unit has ill wind up adding zapco 30 bands to my setup.

Did you try time correction under advanced mode? You should be able to manually set parameters for each speaker(not just presets)....

audiofx81
06-24-2005, 06:49 PM
Did you try time correction under advanced mode? You should be able to manually set parameters for each speaker(not just presets)....

yes i did it in advanced mode. I believe i need to get the 8455 :naughty: :naughty:

unrealii
06-24-2005, 08:37 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18798&item=7526099564&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting
That link says the 8454 can read mp3 and wma files from the memory stick. Is that true? I thought it was only limited to sony's atrac format? :emb:

Justintoxicated
06-27-2005, 09:14 PM
Lucky! I just got the 5444 for $230 + $60 for 5 year warranty.... I could not find an 8454, I really liek the looks of last years modles ALOT better than the new ones. Id take my 5444 over it's equivilant (there isn't really one exactly) of this years. I would easily go with last years unless you need the Sirius. with the money you save you can always upgrade to "this years" next year, or get a 2006 model which will hopefuly look much better than the 05 lineup.

Justintoxicated
06-27-2005, 09:16 PM
That link says the 8454 can read mp3 and wma files from the memory stick. Is that true? I thought it was only limited to sony's atrac format? :emb:


I believe it can both read MP3's and rip CD to MP3's to a memory stick. My CD5444 does this, but the lowest compression I can select is 132kbps I wish it did 192 at least. It's cool if your buddy brings over a CD you want to copy, cause you can Rip it to MP3 as you listen to it.

Shinobi
06-27-2005, 11:40 PM
Shinobi-

DId you get your deck yet and where did you get it? Got mine for $289 also off Ebay new in box. Everything works and it was new. still havent gotten around to playing with it.

Mike


Yea I did get it off ebay bause my dealer friend sold his last 8454 before i could get back in touch with him but no worries. I pulled a few strings and got a local eclipse dealer to install it for the full wraanty 3yr + 1yr theft . The deck is truly amazing only complaint I have is remote lagg. Now to build custom pods for my doors for some nice comps.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/Vengure/EclipseBox.jpg

Hoot
06-28-2005, 09:41 AM
Shinobi, so what are the crossover points of the 8454?

As for the 8445, the deal on it is Advanced Mode is far short of Pro Mode in functionality (totally diffferent DSP).

kdizzle
06-28-2005, 11:36 PM
Got an eclipse 8454 of Ebay NIB and it was in plastic with all the new items...only problem I seem to have is it stays on when I turn key off anyone with suggestion...

I replaced it with a kenwood I had (older model) and same harness...can't figure it out...

Thanks
kdizzle

p.s. it's wired red to red and yellow to yellow... I also tried switching it (red to yellow) but then I lose the memory...

Shinobi
06-29-2005, 12:00 AM
I agree about the 8445 versus the 8455 and 8454 the 8445 isnt close those decks honestly if you going to spend near 500$ you might as well save up and buy somthign to suit your needs later down the road if you cant get a warranty on the 8454 wait and get the 8455.

Kdizzle make sure your connecting to the right ignition wire.Also does ur factory car harness have a illumination wire ? I had to jump mine to a A/c power wire .

JoseMCeee
06-29-2005, 12:04 AM
Got an eclipse 8454 of Ebay NIB and it was in plastic with all the new items...only problem I seem to have is it stays on when I turn key off anyone with suggestion...

I replaced it with a kenwood I had (older model) and same harness...can't figure it out...

Thanks
kdizzle

p.s. it's wired red to red and yellow to yellow... I also tried switching it (red to yellow) but then I lose the memory...

theres should be 2 powers, 1 constant 12 v and one thats 12v when the car is on. U might have to use a DMM to find out which one is which.

kdizzle
06-30-2005, 07:04 PM
found out the it stays on for about 30sec. unless I hit my unlook botton twice... heard someone else having same problem with a chryler car...

still a weird problem. but it works and stores the memory...

kdizzle

Hoot
07-01-2005, 01:52 AM
Shinobi, so what are the crossover points of the 8454????

Unless you, Shinobi -- or anyone else -- is telling me otherwise, I still believe that the 8454 DSP (this includes crossover points, slopes, and all that makes up the DSP options) is like the 8-volt 2003s (8443 & 8053), and not either of the 8-volt 2005s (8445 or 8455).

Well, what does that DSP for the 8454 look like? I ask because I, too, am debating between an 8454 and 8455 and the crossover is the big difference for me as I run a "crossover-less" Soundstream Reference Picasso.

Thanks for any info....

Hoot
07-01-2005, 11:40 PM
Would appreciate any info from 8454 owners. Thanks!