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90accordman
06-04-2005, 12:49 AM
I'll be starting a box for my solo baric L5s tomorrow in my trunk. I'll be posting pics as i go from pieces already cut to the complete box, its to big for me to paint or anything so i'll think of something creative later for the outside.

2 or these will be going into the box
http://img17.echo.cx/img17/6046/hpim00758kd.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
heres the starting of the box
http://img17.echo.cx/img17/2963/hpim00748do.jpg
heres the glue im using to put the box together

http://img17.echo.cx/img17/8519/hpim00766ap.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

90accordman
06-04-2005, 06:46 PM
Basically had home depot cut my wood because i didnt want to be bothered with it, then bought DAP Silcone caulk, and Gorilla Glue(ouch its expensive).

I'll be posting more pictures as i assemble the monster. any comments would be greatly appreciated

dopey
06-04-2005, 07:22 PM
I wouldn't use silicon caulk inside your enclosure. The fumes from the caulking will attack the surround of your speakers. All you need is wood glue and you're enclosure will fine. As for strength that is, the wood will break before the bond of the wood glue. If you're using silicone to "seal" your enclosure.. don't waste you're time. MDF (medium density fiberboard) is very porous. What that means for us in car audio is that we cannot have a truely sealed enclosure using mdf, without laying fiberglass resin to the interior of the enclosure.

Decipha
06-04-2005, 07:24 PM
Hey dopey where you been?

dopey
06-04-2005, 07:31 PM
i've been busy working changing jobs, etc...

SirClay
06-04-2005, 07:35 PM
I wouldn't use silicon caulk inside your enclosure. The fumes from the caulking will attack the surround of your speakers. All you need is wood glue and you're enclosure will fine.


My thoughts...if you caulk your box and wait a day or so to let all the fumes escape to put the sub into the box, you will be fine.

dopey
06-04-2005, 07:40 PM
That's true, but what is the purpose of silicone in the enclosure?

LightningStryk7
06-04-2005, 10:40 PM
you go along the joints incase u did bad job wit wood glue. It makes sure its air tight.... ALso the silicone wont eat your surround once its fully dried because it has no more fumes.

90accordman
06-05-2005, 12:38 AM
im not putting the subs in until late tomorrow and i didnt get to use the silicone after all as i forgot a cauling gun. The Gorilla Glue worked way better then i expected, and i would recommend it to anyone.
http://img228.echo.cx/img228/889/hpim00779dn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

I have the top on now and its just drying, its 5.4 cubic feet volume ported to 32hz so im hoping i get more out of it then my lil 2.8 cube 46hz prefab box.

The puddles you can see in the box are my first experience with Gorilla Glue, i wasnt prepared for it to expand that much. but all for the better at least i know the thing is sealed nicely.

req
06-05-2005, 03:34 AM
well. looks good man! tell us how it sounds!

myvanpounds
06-05-2005, 05:30 AM
my bro wants me to build an in trunk ported box for his **** Type-R 15's and I'm going to use wood glue but he doesn't think it'll hold

Acidburn
06-05-2005, 05:52 AM
the bond made by wood glue will be stronger than the MDF itself...

myvanpounds
06-05-2005, 06:07 AM
the bond made by wood glue will be stronger than the MDF itself...

my bro doesn't beleive that even tho I had him rip apart two peices of MDF showing that the MDF fails before the wood glue

90accordman
06-05-2005, 12:06 PM
Gorilla Glue drys fast and is really strong. I used a nail gun just to hold pieces tight while the glue was drying but the glue is holding it very well.

req
06-05-2005, 12:13 PM
gorillia glue is a kind of wood glue,

those two glues are way stronger than the wood. tell your brother he is a ****ing idiot - sho him this thread, tell him to shut his mouth, and if he still thinks otherwise, tell him to build the **** box hisself.

that will make him shutup :)

90accordman
06-05-2005, 12:45 PM
well im off to wire the subs into the car, i think i'll be going the ghetto route for now and running my wire out the port until i can get some quality terminals or cups to put on the new box.

I'll be on later on with a picture of the subx in place as well as later with the box painted or something.

chinny
06-05-2005, 03:39 PM
nice

lotas
06-05-2005, 03:54 PM
I would advise against terminal cups, they arent anything special, will cost you $5-10 bucks, they can cause air leaks, they just cause more trouble than they're worth. Just drill a hole in the back and run the wire through there.

90accordman
06-05-2005, 04:06 PM
Well i got the subs in place and the sound is incredible better then my prefab box that i previously had. Only bad thing is that it sounds great but i have more resonance then i ever heard, my trunk flexes so hard i thought the lid was going to pop open.

http://img10.echo.cx/img10/1094/hpim00800ti.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

90accordman
06-05-2005, 04:08 PM
sorry about the pic size been trying to run back and forth, havent been editing anything as its less car time.

I'll be cleaning up the wireing and painting the box soon and will post pics of that, i jut have it wired through the port at the moment because i want to be able to listen to music on the way to work at least(only work on car on weekends).

saywhat?
06-05-2005, 04:13 PM
how was it trying to keep your pieces straight at 90 derees? and really if u use gorilla glue, u dont need screws? ill be doing this when i go ported it looks. how did u get your pieces so ****ed evenly lined up and not swear like a sailer? seems like u would have to hold them in there place.

amedeuce
06-05-2005, 04:27 PM
You dont need screws. Glue alone is fine if you clamp it. It is easier to glue, clamp and then nail with nail gun with compressor..

90accordman
06-05-2005, 04:28 PM
how was it trying to keep your pieces straight at 90 derees? and really if u use gorilla glue, u dont need screws? ill be doing this when i go ported it looks. how did u get your pieces so ****ed evenly lined up and not swear like a sailer? seems like u would have to hold them in there place.

I dunno if you seen in one of the earlier pics i had a capenters square. I used this square alot through the whole build and used a nail gun to tack piece in place with the sqaure still in place to make sure each piece was sqaure before the glue cured.

The only thing i sweared about was trying to mount the subs with only 6 inches of space to try to get the screws in.

Holding them in place while the glue dried wasnt much of a problem as its really how here right now and the glue also started drying rather fast. It is my first box so i feel like i had alot of patience for it being my first time and i realize it probably doesnt look the best to some of you more experienced guys. I have glue that seeps out of some of the joints but thats the only visable problem you can see, which i plan on painting the box anyhow and sanding down the glue.

::edit:: I didnt do the whole box at one time either, i did a few pieces went out to shop, did a few more went out to eat, then did some more let 3ish hours pass then did the top last night and let it all sit til today and its hard as a rock now.

90accordman
06-05-2005, 04:36 PM
I almost forgot to thank JMAC for the great box design, and I will be in contact again for a sealed box for 2 Pioneer 15s for the Fiance's Explorer. I can probably do it myself but im more of a hands on guy i rather not waste the time on calulations when i can get someone trustworthy to do it for me.

90accordman
06-06-2005, 03:47 PM
The new box has caused me a new problem, as my rear speakers weren't exactly mounted right. So now when the bass hits the rear deck flexes hard and my rears short against the metal deck. I'm thinking of a fix where i basically make where the speakers contact the metal non metal. Example being runing rubber or plastic around the lip that it contacts so i can still have my mids.

Acidburn
06-06-2005, 04:15 PM
The new box has caused me a new problem, as my rear speakers weren't exactly mounted right. So now when the bass hits the rear deck flexes hard and my rears short against the metal deck. I'm thinking of a fix where i basically make where the speakers contact the metal non metal. Example being runing rubber or plastic around the lip that it contacts so i can still have my mids.
or just take them out, that works too
but ya, you dont want them shorting out, it can cause problems for the deck as well

req
06-06-2005, 05:09 PM
just get like 10ft of secondskin damplifier

http://www.secondskinaudio.com/products/specials.php

$25, will cover your rear dec. take out the speakers, cover the deck (and the speaker holes) cut an X wher ethe speakers mount, push the speakers through, fold the matt under and onto the metal underneath

screw the speakers in with some self tapping screws (or use the factory whatever if you can)

and no more problems :D

SPL140.2
06-06-2005, 05:24 PM
I would advise against terminal cups, they arent anything special, will cost you $5-10 bucks, they can cause air leaks, they just cause more trouble than they're worth. Just drill a hole in the back and run the wire through there.

By drilling a hole and running the wires threw that hole wont have air leaks??? I have never had any problems using terminal cups.

Expy2000
06-06-2005, 05:26 PM
How much is Gorilla Glue..


:)

SPL140.2
06-06-2005, 05:35 PM
$13.?? here but I love the titebondII :)

90accordman
06-06-2005, 07:37 PM
$16.87 for Gorilla Glue here. I dont want to omit the rear speakers because my fiance listens to alot of pop and in that music i can defenitely tell that the rears are missing.

90accordman
06-19-2005, 06:43 PM
double post

90accordman
06-19-2005, 06:45 PM
http://img70.echo.cx/img70/2161/hpim00719jj.jpg Painted the box today,

THUNDERBIRD
06-19-2005, 10:25 PM
kool

snebes
06-20-2005, 05:22 AM
Doesn't look half-bad. I would suggest a lot of deadening before you're car starts to make funny noises :)

90accordman
06-29-2005, 10:54 PM
yea im thinking about taking it somewhere for deadening, i have no experience with it and id like it done right.

djfrestyl
06-30-2005, 10:07 AM
how did u paint it while in the car?
that must have been rough....

looks good though

FOSGATE JOE
07-01-2005, 02:30 PM
nice! hows the s.q???