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ThatDude
06-03-2005, 11:38 PM
My 6X9s in the rear are making popping noises when I turn it up. If I turn down the bass on the HU and turn up the sub with the remote gain, it gets rid of the pop sounds, but the overall sound isn't the same, I guess it starts to heavily lack on mid bass. It's Infinity comps in front, they don't have a problem, and Sony coaxials in the rear. When I originally put the Sonys in they ran off of deck power, and were much clearer than the stocks so I was happy. They are amped now at 50w rms and it says it can take 80w rms. I'm not sure of a way to fix this without changing the speakers out, but I thought about getting those speaker baffles for them from crutchfield, because I'm thinking the problem comes from them running on alot of free air. Let me know what I could try out to fix this, thanks in advance.

dopey
06-03-2005, 11:52 PM
What kinda amp are you running on them, and does it have a x-over built into it?

ThatDude
06-04-2005, 12:12 AM
sony amp, it runs either low pass, or everything. My HU has decent xovers, but if cut off the lower signals on it, i'll have to move my sub amp to the sub-outs on the HU, and the sub-outs ****,it pretty much turns off the sub at low volumes, don't know if people might like that but I don't, so the sub amp runs off the rear channels, and the HU's xovers effect all of the rca outputs except the sub-out.

jsloan10
06-05-2005, 02:20 AM
Heres some tips-

5.5 What is "rear fill", and how do I effectively use it? [HK, JSC]
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"Rear fill" refers to the presence of depth and ambiance in music. A
properly designed system using two channels will reproduce original
rear fill on the source without rear high frequency drivers. Since
recordings are made in two channels, that is all you will need to
reproduce it. What is captured at the recording session (coincident
pair mics, Blumlein mic patterns, etc.) by a two channel mic array will
capture the so called rear fill or ambiance. Many of the winning IASCA
vehicles have no rear high frequency drivers. Also a lot of this has
to do with system tuning. If rear high frequency drivers are added,
however, the power level of the rear fill speakers should be lower than
that of the front speakers, or else you will lose your front-primary
staging, which is not what you want (when was the last time you went to
a concert and stood backwards?). The proper amount of amplification
for rear fill speakers is the point where you can just barely detect
their presence while sitting in the front seat. Separates are not a
requirement for rear fill; in fact, you may be better of with a pair of
coaxial speakers, as separates may throw off your staging.

5.7 How do I select proper crossover points and slopes? [DK]
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Basically, this requires a degree of patience. The subwoofer should be
started off at about 100Hz and adjusted until you are happy with the
sound. Keep in mind that the higher the crossover point, the more
power the driver on the high-pass will be able to handle but raising
excessively may cause the low-pass driver to sound raspy or unnatural.
The idea here is to first make rough selections to protect the drivers
and then to fine tune crossover point selections to achieve optimum
fidelity. It's all a matter of what sounds good to you after that, but
remember that even *minute* changes in crossover frequency can make
dramatic differences in the way your system sounds and images.

As a rule, subs should be crossed over no higher than 120Hz, a 6 1/2
mid should be able to handle about 90 Hz, a 5 1/4" should be okay with
about 100Hz, a 4" - about 500Hz, and tweeters vary from about
3500-5000Hz. These points all assume the use of a 12dB/octave
crossover ... if you have a steeper roll-off a lower crossover point
may be chosen. Remember, these are not hard and fast rules but rather
a rule of thumb to help you get started (and so you don't blow up all
your speakers when you are setting your gains!).

ThatDude
06-05-2005, 04:24 PM
Thanks, sounds like I need a better amp with a decent crossover, and turn the gain lower than the fronts. What is a good point to crossover 6x9 speakers though? I do notice that my rears do overpower my fronts most of the time.