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Hernan
05-24-2005, 12:58 PM
Is there a BIG difference in SQ?

Of course the 9600MP has a lot more features and bling. In the SQ department, it has high voltage output, DSP, better EQ, TA...

Does it really SOUNDS better?

adam71
05-24-2005, 05:11 PM
Yes, there is a very noticeable difference. Now comparing the 9600 to a 8600 you wouldn't find ANY difference in sound as the only difference between them is cosmetics.

But when comparing a unit that has a 6 volt output to one that has a 2 volt output it is a huge difference. Let alone all the other features that make the 9600 a better unit. To name one big difference: 9600 has a 13 band graphic eq as opposed to the 4600's 3 band parametric eq. The 9600 has time alignment, network mode and a 24bit d/a converter and the 4600 does NOT.

Personally I would recommend a 8600 over the 9600 simply for a less cluttered appearance and for the fact that Pioneer has had some problems with the dual faced units. :cool:


Simply put............YES the 9600 is worth the extra money. :)

JAZN
05-24-2005, 06:04 PM
those 2 HU's arent anywhere near the same league. however, if youre gonna go with the HU with all the features, u better put em to good use ;)

adam71
05-24-2005, 06:42 PM
those 2 HU's arent anywhere near the same league. however, if youre gonna go with the HU with all the features, u better put em to good use ;)

To me, just the output voltage makes it worth it.

mr Tibbs
05-26-2005, 11:08 PM
I went from a 650 to an 860mp and the difference is night and day. Not really a fair fight, but neither is yours. Save som money and spring for the 9600mp.

adam71
05-26-2005, 11:10 PM
Not really a fair fight, but neither is yours. Save som money and spring for the 9600mp.


Yeah, you tell 'em Tibbs...lol :laugh: j/k

ndnbolla
05-26-2005, 11:27 PM
Exactly what is the difference between a unit with 6 volts and a unit with 2 volts. better sound quality? lesser electrical strain on the vehicle?

drkodin
05-27-2005, 12:56 PM
Exactly what is the difference between a unit with 6 volts and a unit with 2 volts. better sound quality? lesser electrical strain on the vehicle?
there is zero difference in 6V and 2V in sound quality, i've now read two thread back to back that seem to think that it makes a difference, it doesn't. The only benefit is that the 6V pre-outs will have a lower noise floor in the entire system only because the gains on amps are set lower, however if you never had any problems with 2V there won't be any gain going to 6V.

With that said, although the sub pre-out is always cabable of using 6V even in STD mode, the other pre-outs only get to 6V in NW mode on the 840/940 and 860/960 models

adam71
05-27-2005, 01:36 PM
With that said, although the sub pre-out is always cabable of using 6V even in STD mode, the other pre-outs only get to 6V in NW mode on the 840/940 and 860/960 models

I'm not sure where you heard that but my 860 has 6V pre output voltage (at almost full volume) and that's for the front and rear pre outs. There is NO difference in output voltage between STD and NW modes. My buddy who happens to be my local Premier dealer had the 940 in his truck for over a year and he said the voltage does NOT change from one mode to the other. If you know something we don't know do tell. I would be interested in why if it were true but the owner's manual mentions nothing of a voltage change and I actually measured mine in STD mode when I got the measurements. :D

drkodin
05-27-2005, 09:53 PM
I'm not sure where you heard that but my 860 has 6V pre output voltage (at almost full volume) and that's for the front and rear pre outs. There is NO difference in output voltage between STD and NW modes. My buddy who happens to be my local Premier dealer had the 940 in his truck for over a year and he said the voltage does NOT change from one mode to the other. If you know something we don't know do tell. I would be interested in why if it were true but the owner's manual mentions nothing of a voltage change and I actually measured mine in STD mode when I got the measurements. :D
in STD mode you will only get 4V preouts on anything but the sub, i measured it on my own 940 and it only gets to 4V. in NW mode you are allowed to adjust from -24 to +5 on all preouts, not just the sub, and that +5 is what will get you to the 6.5V preouts, otherwise if it is at 0 like it is automatically set in STD mode 4V is the max output.

also, when i switched from STD to NW on my 940 it required me to reset my gains for the higher voltage input. you said you measured it though, do you have a 840/940 or 860/960, i just assumed they would work the same however i may be incorrect.

JAZN
05-27-2005, 10:04 PM
wow. thats news to me.

adam71
05-27-2005, 10:26 PM
also, when i switched from STD to NW on my 940 it required me to reset my gains for the higher voltage input. you said you measured it though, do you have a 840/940 or 860/960, i just assumed they would work the same however i may be incorrect.


What exactly do you mean it required you?? Was it in the owner's manual or did you find this out some other way.??

BTW I have an 860 and there is NO mention of it the manual.