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RetroVetro
05-21-2005, 11:55 AM
Let's just say...i have around $200,000 amount of money to spend til the end of the year. This summer I'm going to treat myself n buy an Evo. How much money do you think I should spend..or how much money does it take to make that car a 10 sec. car? Money isnt' a problem for me. How much money does it take to get a 10 second car?

I just got into street racing a year ago, n my very first car.. BMW M3 just isnt cutting it for me. I wanna build a car up from scratch...into a Hatchback killer...cuz here..the Honda Hatchbacks kill other cars.

netherland24
05-21-2005, 12:13 PM
get a Supra. and drop 100+G in it and u be pretty quick.

ChiefontheDitty
05-21-2005, 12:15 PM
Well if you get the EVO get the MR, and strip it completely and send it to Vishnu. And why not just build the M3 up, if you did it right that can be in the 9's. Chief

guy022077
05-21-2005, 12:15 PM
if you are doing the work yourself you could make 2 10 sec cars with that much money. or go to ebay and buy one.. believe it or not my friend got a 750whp T78 94 supra for 32000, done. or go to http://www.speedforsale.com/

AznRevlAzn
05-21-2005, 12:18 PM
get a Oldsmobile or a 60's mustang and drop maybe 50k. You got yourself a 7 second car.

CONSOLIDATED
05-21-2005, 12:21 PM
A lot of Supras you will be able to find are going to be really used, and with $200,000 grand you could easily get a brand new car and make it just as quick.

HKS or somebody made a really fast wtin turbo R32. I think the turbo kit was like $8 grand, but that doesn't seem like it would be a lot of money to you if you have $200,000 to spend on a car.

It would be an AWD VR6 twin turbo. I don't know if that would make it a "10 second car", but it would still be really fast.

Just curious, but do you know what a 10 second car means?

Decipha
05-21-2005, 12:54 PM
all these rich pricks make me sick

AznRevlAzn
05-21-2005, 01:00 PM
all these rich pricks make me sick

same :D

Abel
05-21-2005, 01:07 PM
Take your parents 200k move out, get a job,and stop spending there money :)

RetroVetro
05-21-2005, 01:23 PM
Yeah, I know what a 10 sec. car is..n what it means. I'm willing to fix up a car n use it for legal races only... most likely the modifications to it would not be street legal anyways. My friend owns a shop... he's a top notch mechanic... he said he'd help me build up a car for free..just as long as I advertise his shop on my car. I thought it'd be good to do..since I'll learn more about engines this way. I'd just like to have a car strictly for racing... something that I can build up from stock.

Yeah..the supras.. I was thinking about getting one of those..but wasn't sure about it. I've got a couple more months to decide what to get. My M3 is built up..somewhat..but I'd like to still be able to cruise around in it..n use it as my going to work car..going to the mall car.. n still be able to comfortably fit friends n family in it. My friend suggested stripping it n making these crazy modifications..but I like it mostly for its comfort n sportiness... I still need a car to drive around legally with. But whatever car I get.. i'm willing to make it the fastest car possible in my area...mostly for pride n pride in what i've built.

I'm not suggesting that I use all of the money in one car..but it's an idea of what I'm working with n what mods im capable of making.

bumpin_blazer
05-21-2005, 01:28 PM
I'm thinking either mommy and daddy, drug dealer, or insurance scammer. 20yr old with 200k to spend on a car and his M3 (boo f*cking hoo) just isn't cutting it. My 2 cents is that if you build a 10 second car be sure to have a constant video tape running b/c you aren't living for long and I want to see the video.:D

B_Master_Flash
05-21-2005, 01:29 PM
Camaro SS + 4.11 locker + Turbo kit + 100 shot = :thumbsup:

B_Master_Flash
05-21-2005, 01:30 PM
I'm thinking either mommy and daddy, drug dealer, or insurance scammer. 20yr old with 200k to spend on a car and his M3 (boo f*cking hoo) just isn't cutting it. My 2 cents is that if you build a 10 second car be sure to have a constant video tape running b/c you aren't living for long and I want to see the video.:D

x2 Hahaha

Nukedsodapop
05-21-2005, 03:16 PM
It takes alot more than a turbo and gears to go 10s

Nukedsodapop
05-21-2005, 03:19 PM
Oh and BTW, if you wanna go fast, why not start out with a fast car?

bumpin_blazer
05-21-2005, 03:21 PM
If I had 200k to get a 10 second car I'd probably just wait about 2-4 months and buy a 06' Z06 with the stock 0-6 in 3.8 and drop another 30g's into it and have a 10 second car. When you do crash and kill yourself though man lemme know so I can snag up that M3 for cheap.

Nukedsodapop
05-21-2005, 03:22 PM
nvm i misunderstood your statement

ChiefontheDitty
05-21-2005, 03:27 PM
Just something to think about. AWD cars arent made for drag racing easy street is the only place to have really done that and quite honestly you cant do it. Go by a NSX supercharge it and get new brakes and suspension and call it a day. Or hold out for the 06 Easy Street Subaru Sti, 425 hp. Fast? Chief

Echo42987
05-21-2005, 03:28 PM
age=20

Money=$200,000

I don't know any 20 year old who has that kind of money. But it's not my place to be jealous.

I would check out a Nissan 350Z put in another 60,000 and your set...then after all that spend another 10,000 on the system! You'll still have money left over in the end! Also those 350Z's are so beautiful.......

Beat_Dominator
05-21-2005, 03:30 PM
This thread reeks of :bsflag:


I think someone's seen The fast and the Furious too many times............

Acidburn
05-21-2005, 03:31 PM
This thread reeks of :bsflag:


I think someone's seen The fast and the Furious too many times............
dood, jus git sum NOOSSSSSS!!

bumpin_blazer
05-21-2005, 03:32 PM
Just something to think about. AWD cars arent made for drag racing easy street is the only place to have really done that and quite honestly you cant do it. Go by a NSX supercharge it and get new brakes and suspension and call it a day. Or hold out for the 06 Easy Street Subaru Sti, 425 hp. Fast? Chief

Didn't you just contradict yourself in saying AWD cars aren't made for drag strips but then suggest a STi?? :D Also where can one find specs on this 06' Easy Street STi?? Is that a factory thing or special maker?

ighettoboyi
05-21-2005, 03:34 PM
i dont know why people are even trying to help this guy out, it's such an obvious BS thread. maybe if he showed a pic of that m3 i might believe him, but yea, quit wasting our time

guy022077
05-21-2005, 03:46 PM
dood, jus git sum NOOSSSSSS!!
i got 4 25 gallon tanks in my geo metro. its a 7.9sec car. the tanks are mounted on top of my 12XXX 32's i hit 4000db my car is awesome :naughty:

bumpin_blazer
05-21-2005, 03:50 PM
Buy a house ...

my house only runs 12's:( but it's sittin on aluminum panels:D.

RetroVetro
05-21-2005, 04:07 PM
let me rephrase the question....since some of you get side tracked easily. On an estimate... how much money does one expect to spend to run 10s? n for those that run 10s..how much do you think they've spent overall to get it how it is? The labor going into making that machine run that fast is going to be way up there obviously. I'm looking to go without the nos. I'm not saying that this can be done overnight..it'll probably take years to build up an engine to push that car to its potential.
But, if anyone has any insight on the costs..let me know..plz.

Fast N Furious didnt get me into racing... going to the races at the tracks last year did. I havent even seen that movie. I've seen cars running 11s at the tracks, n i can see the costs into building that car from the way they run. I'm asking a serious question here, no bs or anything.

twoohfour
05-21-2005, 04:15 PM
How about instead of wasting 200 gs on a ****ing AUTOMOBILE, build some houses for poor people in Africa or something.

lol

wheredabud714
05-21-2005, 04:16 PM
sigh* with 200grand you can make any car a 10second car....even a ****in geo metro... my advice to you is...pick a car you want to make it run a 10second quarter buy it take it to you "quote on quote" master mechanic n be like ok build away... i mean **** you can make a geo metro with 200gs i mean *** who knows how much itd cost you but ya ha maybe would be a totally diffeent car but itd still be a geo metro in the end....my opinion easiest way is going with a american car alot cheaper to build and more reliable when it comes to playin with big amounts of horsepower. Ehhh but ya i wouldnt mind seeing a 10second g35 ;)........ o ya since you said it takes years for a person to get a 10second car lolz ya it does but not if they have 200grand to dump into it....i saw a 69 camaro street legal with a 502 bored over to a 520?? or somethin i cant remember and a fully built drive terrain and the guy got his car back running 10s.....fact is it sure as hell isnt gonna take you years and id say if you pickup somethin like a 06 z06 or a 03-05 cobra with 20grand you could have your 10second car.......but ya once you do this can i be in you will cuz if you do die ive always wanted a m3 itd be a total upgrade from still paying off my 4dr accord

ExS
05-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Or feed the whole village in Cambodia.

Black_Jesus
05-21-2005, 04:49 PM
get an old school muscle car... get a crate engine... new suspension n everything...

make the body fiberglass

take away as much weight as you can

super charge it

nice lil blower stickin out of the hood

DOT approved slicks

400 shot of nitro if you need some extra little kick..

:)

dont forget to tune it

Polecat
05-21-2005, 05:50 PM
I bet I can get you a clean, quick, true street '71 Nova for $50,000, or less that will run mid 8's :D and with the rest, buy a house, and a huge shop.

Nukedsodapop
05-21-2005, 07:12 PM
This thread reeks of :bsflag:


I think someone's seen The fast and the Furious too many times............


That was exactly what I was gonna say but I didnt wanna be mean or anything. I mean cmon, an EVO for 10s? BWAHAHA major mods goin on there more than they're worth

guy022077
05-21-2005, 09:08 PM
sigh* with 200grand you can make any car a 10second car....even a ****in geo metro...
this is a good point..if you are serious it doesnt matter what it is because the engine is gonna come out of it anyway. so just pick a car you like take it to the guy and say make 10.

iLL-Faded
05-21-2005, 09:11 PM
umm buy one of those 4 sale me cars, and put as much nos as you can

Nukedsodapop
05-21-2005, 10:06 PM
And then watch you "blow the welds off the intake"

CONSOLIDATED
05-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Here is how you make a 10 second car:

http://img267.echo.cx/img267/8536/tach2by.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/4456/spoiler1mq.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/6858/nosseat5nw.jpg

Did you get the idea for a fast car from Need for Speed: Underground 2 or The Fast and The Furious?

If it's Need for Speed, you might need these:

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/4928/neons5zi.jpg

Here is my 10 second Corolla:

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/6015/modifiedcar3ck.jpg

Hope that helps. :rolleyes:

CONSOLIDATED
05-21-2005, 10:07 PM
By the way, to install a second spoiler, like I did, you'll probably have to get Xzibit. I'm not sure if your "top notch" installer can cut it.

bimma85
05-21-2005, 10:08 PM
2 words for ya ......... lingenfelter corvette :D those are just plain bad ***. but cost 100k.. Hey it'll smoke every stock lambo and ferrari ya see though ;).

CONSOLIDATED
05-21-2005, 10:12 PM
So does the Nismo Skyline. $170 grand, but still cheaper than Ferrari.

pd298
05-21-2005, 10:24 PM
Buy a viper and send it to hennessey motorsports.

ChrominImpala
05-22-2005, 12:36 AM
Twin Turbo Corvette 2006

Get a custom twin turbo setup, heads, cams, headers, exhaust, intake,
Your stock engine is 500hp with the 7.0L LS7. The old 5.7's can be 9 second car's
www.spdkilz.com
www.1320svideos.com

bimma85
05-22-2005, 06:06 PM
http://www.lingenfelter.com/pack_cor_c6_427.htm for prolly under 110k this can be urs. I believe it does quarter mile in 8.?

twoohfour
05-22-2005, 06:49 PM
If it's Need for Speed, you might need these:

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/4928/neons5zi.jpg

Here is my 10 second Corolla:

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/6015/modifiedcar3ck.jpg

Hope that helps. :rolleyes:

hahahahahaha :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :handclap:

ChiefontheDitty
05-22-2005, 11:52 PM
If this guy is for real, he should buy the car he wants and then add the bolt-ons one at a time to get use to it. Or else he will drive it straight into a tree. Cause honestly very few people can handle a car like the ones mentioned right away, most crash within a month. Chief

ballstothewall
05-25-2005, 06:38 PM
get an old school muscle car... get a crate engine... new suspension n everything...

make the body fiberglass

take away as much weight as you can

super charge it

nice lil blower stickin out of the hood

DOT approved slicks

400 shot of nitro if you need some extra little kick..



dont forget to tune it

This guy has the best idea IMHO....Don't get a foreign car for a drag racer...sure I've seen some **** fast imports, but it is easier to build up a v8, and cheaper for that matter. Just get a 60's camaro, all new suspension, slicks, supercharged 572 big block, extremely built automatic tranny, etc., etc.,

Oh and How do you get 200k to spend on a car. Our whole family dosen't even have a vehicle that excedes 25mph that is worth more that 20,000 (that 25mph clause gets tractors outa the deal, we are farmers).....

Later

-Ryan

marleyskater420
05-25-2005, 11:47 PM
let me rephrase the question....since some of you get side tracked easily. On an estimate... how much money does one expect to spend to run 10s? n for those that run 10s..how much do you think they've spent overall to get it how it is? The labor going into making that machine run that fast is going to be way up there obviously. I'm looking to go without the nos. I'm not saying that this can be done overnight..it'll probably take years to build up an engine to push that car to its potential.
But, if anyone has any insight on the costs..let me know..plz.

Fast N Furious didnt get me into racing... going to the races at the tracks last year did. I havent even seen that movie. I've seen cars running 11s at the tracks, n i can see the costs into building that car from the way they run. I'm asking a serious question here, no bs or anything.



If you want to ONLY have a drag car....bout 15-20k.

Local guy did this... old 5.0, gutted to 2600lbs. 500hp SBC408, new rear and tranny.

Just get an old beater,gut it to 2700 below lbs, new rearend,new trans, and a 600hp engine.

Polecat
05-26-2005, 12:04 AM
If you want to ONLY have a drag car....bout 15-20k.

Local guy did this... old 5.0, gutted to 2600lbs. 500hp SBC408, new rear and tranny.

Just get an old beater,gut it to 2700 below lbs, new rearend,new trans, and a 600hp engine.
that's how to make a Ford fast...stick a SBC in there. :D


j/k, love Fords too...

marleyskater420
05-26-2005, 12:15 AM
that's how to make a Ford fast...stick a SBC in there. :D


j/k, love Fords too...

DAAAMN right.

I can't think of many "budget" ford cars out there. I just don't hear of many 351's that run 9's for 15k. Or a budget stang in the 10's for 20k.

I do however,see older stangs w/ SBC's in them :)

woahloud
05-26-2005, 12:31 AM
It takes alot more than a turbo and gears to go 10s

Put 4:10's on a fox mustang, w/ a Vortech T trom blower, and the necessities(injectors, plugs,plug wires, ignition, etc...), and it's quite possible. I have a friend w/ a 351 W, and the above stated ^, w/ 3:55 running a 10.3. Rand a 10.1 at Fun ford a few Weekends Back :)


Oh, and it's street legal :cool:

marleyskater420
05-26-2005, 12:37 AM
Put 4:10's on a fox mustang, w/ a Vortech T trom blower, and the necessities(injectors, plugs,plug wires, ignition, etc...), and it's quite possible. I have a friend w/ a 351 W, and the above stated ^, w/ 3:55 running a 10.3. Rand a 10.1 at Fun ford a few Weekends Back :)


Oh, and it's street legal :cool:

Werd.

All you need is a light car, good engine, good trans,and a good rear end....

oh wait..isnt that what makes up the entire car?

Nukedsodapop
05-26-2005, 08:36 AM
Put 4:10's on a fox mustang, w/ a Vortech T trom blower, and the necessities(injectors, plugs,plug wires, ignition, etc...), and it's quite possible. I have a friend w/ a 351 W, and the above stated ^, w/ 3:55 running a 10.3. Rand a 10.1 at Fun ford a few Weekends Back :)


Oh, and it's street legal :cool:


Point? Lol j/p :veryhapp:

99StangGt
05-26-2005, 10:53 AM
I was running 10s with a 70 nova with only 5000 into it. Its real easy

marleyskater420
05-27-2005, 02:56 AM
I was running 10s with a 70 nova with only 5000 into it. Its real easy

^^^ werd.

What was the setup?

I was gonna do a budget buildup and sell my car...then I realized why not just make a 11 sec DD? I already have a 12 sec one...

IA2
05-27-2005, 08:21 AM
Hey, I happen to have an EVO....:) heres a nice parts list to get it in the 10's

GT35R turbo kit $4000
FMIC $700
IC pipes $400
3" tb exhaust $800
880cc injectors $500
fuel pump $125
HKS 280 cams $600
2.3l stroker $2000
stage 3 head $3000
AEM EMS $2000 (with sensors)
TUNING TUNING TUNING $2000+

:veryhapp:

saywhat?
05-27-2005, 08:53 AM
240 sx, stock KA motor, turbo it, makes it a KAT push 10-15 lbs and ur in 12's. beef up the rear, run some radials, ur in the 11's. get some internals, beef up te DRIVETRAIN (full drivetrain) push 20 psi and ur possibly high tens. OR do the same with an SR20DET . street legal......fast as sit..........rape ur little domestic ego heads.


PS- ive seen both of these done by friends............they BOTH run high 10's and are broke teens/20's.

seth350
05-27-2005, 09:56 AM
Why do 10s when you can do..........................20s...................
http://hollywoodcostumesandparty.com/austinpowers/evilgreyb.jpg

bumpin_blazer
05-27-2005, 01:19 PM
Hey, I happen to have an EVO....:) heres a nice parts list to get it in the 10's

GT35R turbo kit $4000
FMIC $700
IC pipes $400
3" tb exhaust $800
880cc injectors $500
fuel pump $125
HKS 280 cams $600
2.3l stroker $2000
stage 3 head $3000
AEM EMS $2000 (with sensors)
TUNING TUNING TUNING $2000+

:veryhapp:


:needpics:

marleyskater420
05-27-2005, 03:14 PM
:needpics:

hes talking about the 600+awhp EVO thats on the net.

***** wont go from a dig though..and the one time i saw him go from a dig, a LT1 got the jump on him...and the LT1 was stock..

bumpin_blazer
05-27-2005, 03:23 PM
hes talking about the 600+awhp EVO thats on the net.

***** wont go from a dig though..and the one time i saw him go from a dig, a LT1 got the jump on him...and the LT1 was stock..

I still maintain I want pics lol.:D

AVSTANG02
05-27-2005, 03:28 PM
**** this thread is lame. The kid is fullashit.

What year m3? and what mods?

dbhittin
05-27-2005, 03:43 PM
my neighbors truck and his friend both run 10's and daily drivers and spent around 12g's to 15gs... one has a built 302 and the other has a 383 stroker

saywhat?
05-27-2005, 03:50 PM
:needpics:


EVO's are god awful looking. god doesnt like mitsubishi.

g30ffr3y
05-27-2005, 03:59 PM
hey guys... i seriously have ten gazillion dollars and i would
like to make my house able to fly around the world in nine point two
seconds...

im a master contractor and have a phd in astro physics...

btw... the paint has to be able to change from lime green
with an orange dragon into metallic purple with yellow polka
dots all over it just by thinking...

twoohfour
05-27-2005, 05:04 PM
hey guys... i seriously have ten gazillion dollars and i would
like to make my house able to fly around the world in nine point two
seconds...

im a master contractor and have a phd in astro physics...

btw... the paint has to be able to change from lime green
with an orange dragon into metallic purple with yellow polka
dots all over it just by thinking...


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



this thread is ****ing lame. notice the ***** who started hasn't posted since the first like ... 2 days.


*******.

dbhittin
05-27-2005, 05:08 PM
if u had $200,000 to build a car, im pretty sure it would be faster than 10's and still be tight as hell with a nice system

IA2
05-28-2005, 03:08 AM
hes talking about the 600+awhp EVO thats on the net.

***** wont go from a dig though..and the one time i saw him go from a dig, a LT1 got the jump on him...and the LT1 was stock..

actually I wasnt talking about any car in particular (althought i know which one you are talking about) I just pulled that small list out my *** because thats about what it takes to get an EVO in the 10's.....my EVO has never been ran at the quarter mile, but in the 1/8th its going 8.48...ill be in the 7.8 range next time I hit up the track though :)

IA2
05-28-2005, 03:17 AM
didnt want to hijack thread.....so made new one

marleyskater420
05-28-2005, 09:46 PM
actually I wasnt talking about any car in particular (althought i know which one you are talking about) I just pulled that small list out my *** because thats about what it takes to get an EVO in the 10's.....my EVO has never been ran at the quarter mile, but in the 1/8th its going 8.48...ill be in the 7.8 range next time I hit up the track though :)


Yeah..it only takes 20k to make a 30k car run 10's...

Man, talk about mod-ability! These things are insane!

IA2
06-01-2005, 12:17 PM
it always takes lots of money to make small engines fast.......if you are on a budget and need a fast car, then go for the older v8 car....cheap, and easy to make fast

marleyskater420
06-01-2005, 08:15 PM
it always takes lots of money to make small engines fast.......if you are on a budget and need a fast car, then go for the older v8 car....cheap, and easy to make fast

Not all small engines :D

oh SNAP :ohsnap:

Ignatowski
06-01-2005, 08:23 PM
i have an 8 second car
I wouldent know LOL

IA2
06-02-2005, 08:55 AM
Not all small engines :D

oh SNAP :ohsnap:

4 cylinders.....not Grand Nationals....lol.....

IA2
06-02-2005, 08:57 AM
oh, and you dont have 400 hp yet? with your mods I would think you would be well over that mark........especially with alky and high boost

marleyskater420
06-03-2005, 03:30 AM
oh, and you dont have 400 hp yet? with your mods I would think you would be well over that mark........especially with alky and high boost

Realistically, I have about 500bhp/600tq. I have a high stall, OD tranny, and what that means for me, is that I loose about 28% of my power. So even though I have about 500bhp, I really see like 350-375.

I just blew a HG I'm pretty sure, but honestly, I think I have over 375rwhp, and 450rwtq, based on other dyno's I've seen.

But who knows!? All I know, is that I took my buds 04 GT by about 4-5 car lengths in a 1/8th mile(not even mid through 3rd) and I was blowing smoke out the ***.

So thats a 14.1 sec GT beat by 4-5 cars in the 8th, WHILE breaking..and I was still pulling hard...so I think thats a pretty good bet on a 12.x ride... plus Ive raced 12.5 cars and stayed exact w/ em.

But its all a guess! Ive made the decision to fix EVERYTHING wrong w/ my car, as it is fast enough right now. I wanna make it reliable enough ,so I stop breaking **** (cuz I keep fukin up)

IA2
06-03-2005, 09:13 AM
thats awesome........so what time did you run in the 1/8th? im assuming very low 8's or high 7's..........my car with my mods should be pretty deep in the 12's as it sits, assuming I could drive it right........Im sittin right around 330awhp and 330 lb/ft........next mod is alky........28 psi baby!

marleyskater420
06-03-2005, 08:39 PM
thats awesome........so what time did you run in the 1/8th? im assuming very low 8's or high 7's..........my car with my mods should be pretty deep in the 12's as it sits, assuming I could drive it right........Im sittin right around 330awhp and 330 lb/ft........next mod is alky........28 psi baby!

I was actually planning on taking it to the strip this or next weekend, but seeing as I now have an issue...I cant.

I am hoping for mid 13's my FIRST time out, and just getting lower from there.

pd298
06-11-2005, 08:48 PM
I know where you can get a 9 second Supra for 35k!
http://visionboy.com/

IA2
06-13-2005, 08:18 AM
I LOVE MKIV Supras...........however i hate the "lagginess" of monstrous turbos :crap:

pd298
06-13-2005, 06:48 PM
Well, it still runs 9's even with that turbo lag

pablo4429
06-14-2005, 11:32 PM
dude good luck trying to control a car that fast but **** why dont you just buy a viper, twin centrifugal supercharger, obviously slicks 13" or bigger, take out all the uneccesary **** (seats, spare tire, ect.), replace all body pannels with carbon fiber (BUT PAINT IT THOUGH, I HATE THAT ******* LOOK), get the motor bluprinted, balanced, perfectly tuned by a pro, and if your gonna drag it only new gears. and why the **** dude ur parents give you that kinda money you lucky *****, my ******* car was 100 plus a new tranny when it blew and dont go *****in about your lil M3 being too slow cuz its faster than anything most people will EVER have.

hellomota
06-15-2005, 02:36 AM
How about....

Get help from profesional psychiatrist that will coast about 200,000 in you case without insurance

Like someone said feed those poor children from africa, you can prolly feed like 15 villages for year.

Help poor families to buy organ transplants.

Sponser brest cancer research instituations.

Buy hybrid car for 25k and make a favor to polution problem.

Invest in reliable stocks you will have so much more money when you grow up and you can spend them on all of the above.

Open you own company.

I was bored and whrote all of them at 1 in the morning, god I need some sleeping pills. Well anyway too bad the guy doesn't have that money and this thread is b/s and I also wasted half an hour of my life going thru it.

rollininstyle04
06-15-2005, 04:09 AM
HKS or somebody made a really fast wtin turbo R32. I think the turbo kit was like $8 grand, but that doesn't seem like it would be a lot of money to you if you have $200,000 to spend on a car.

It was HPA and they had over $41k in engine work on thier Twin Turbo R32. Thier stageI which is just a single turbo is around $8k i think...

bossman032
06-15-2005, 05:59 AM
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wODc1NDA0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE=.jpg

my honda lighting ran 11s with slicks till I blew it up..

Acidburn
06-15-2005, 06:00 AM
^^ ouch

newb
06-15-2005, 09:18 AM
Here's my input: sine you're going for an EVO which is a very good car, especially on the 4g63 platform. Get the MR, send it to AMS, you should be looking to spend no more than 20-25k to make that a 9-10 sec car. 30k for car + 25k for mods = $55k in money well spent. Just make sure you send 25K my way so I can finish my project. :D :D

http://www.automotosports.com/index_evo.asp

AMS Shop Car
2003 Silver Mitsubishi Evolution 8
711 whp, 10.11@141 mph (No Nitrous)




Make sure you update us if you do go through with it. I would love to see it in action.

Dustin19
06-17-2005, 02:44 AM
:spam: ;)

n2audio
06-17-2005, 11:47 AM
A gutted pinto (mustang works too, but a little heavier) with a turbo 2.3L, t3/t4 hybrid turbo, front intercooled, big fuel pump, ported intake and exhaust, 3" exhaust, and slicks.

That, with some tuning can get you sub 11's for less than 10k, to look sweet it would probably be closer to $20k.

Not that you'd ever go that route with an unlimited budget, but with the right car, money is less of an issue than time an know-how. An AWD is definitely the WRONG car to put down crazy numbers at the strip. It's as logical as trying to make an off road beast out of a new vette.

marleyskater420
06-19-2005, 07:23 PM
A gutted pinto (mustang works too, but a little heavier) with a turbo 2.3L, t3/t4 hybrid turbo, front intercooled, big fuel pump, ported intake and exhaust, 3" exhaust, and slicks.

That, with some tuning can get you sub 11's for less than 10k, to look sweet it would probably be closer to $20k.

Not that you'd ever go that route with an unlimited budget, but with the right car, money is less of an issue than time an know-how. An AWD is definitely the WRONG car to put down crazy numbers at the strip. It's as logical as trying to make an off road beast out of a new vette.

An old nova would work better. Cheap,light,good engine room. Or a chevette I've heard.

All you need is a budget motor for 5k, a rearend for 3k, and a trans for 4k, and then the car.

AWD=worst strip idea ever.

chinny
06-19-2005, 07:30 PM
all i hear supras this and supras that, GET A CIVIC!!! LOL!!!

chinny
06-19-2005, 07:30 PM
R32's are nice if you like hatchbacks

ieatdrt
06-30-2005, 10:49 AM
LMFAO! You can build a 10sec car for 20k or less if you're good. Come to think of it give me the 200k and I'll build you one for 20k and pocket the rest. You need traction not HP. Well you need HP but it does no good when your spinning the tires. You can break into 10's with 300hp in a properly prepped 3000lb car.

Polecat
06-30-2005, 12:18 PM
You can break into 10's with 300hp in a properly prepped 3000lb car.eeerrrr....nope.

IA2
06-30-2005, 04:02 PM
You can break into 10's with 300hp in a properly prepped 3000lb car.


:laugh:

Mr. Opportunist
06-30-2005, 04:09 PM
ieatdrt is a moron best bet is if you want something comfortable that you can go everywhere in, go with a supra, it takes about 10-20g to drop it into mid to high 10's depending on if you want to strip everything, full factory interior you can run 10s with about 15g.

pd298
07-01-2005, 12:38 AM
eeerrrr....nope.
LMAO :laugh: :laugh:

negativezeroz
07-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Just drop $180K on a R34 Z-Tune 10sec stock

ieatdrt
07-01-2005, 10:27 AM
ROFL. Sad isn't it. 10.9's in 300rearwhls/3000....Yes
As a matter of fact a guy grabbed a .513 light and ran 11.31 in a 3110lb camaro with 257 hp. Proper prep, the right conditions, and some knowledge, and yes you can break into the 10's with 300hp and 3000lbs. :rolleyes: :D :laugh:
Just in case you can't read either. That's Rear Wheel Hp not Bhp. Bhp would be a much higher number, if you still don't think it can be done then you need to learn about suspension and gearing a little more. Slapping 500hp in a stock chassis won't get you 10's it'll get you killed.

Polecat
07-01-2005, 12:09 PM
ROFL. Sad isn't it. 10.9's in 300rearwhls/3000....Yes
As a matter of fact a guy grabbed a .513 light and ran 11.31 in a 3110lb camaro with 257 hp. Proper prep, the right conditions, and some knowledge, and yes you can break into the 10's with 300hp and 3000lbs. :rolleyes: :D :laugh:
Just in case you can't read either. That's Rear Wheel Hp not Bhp. Bhp would be a much higher number, if you still don't think it can be done then you need to learn about suspension and gearing a little more. Slapping 500hp in a stock chassis won't get you 10's it'll get you killed.
dude, I've been building cars and drag racing since you were probably in diapers. There is no way you can get a 3100 lb car, not matter what light he's cutting, to run 11.31. With drivetrain loss of 30%, that motor is making 334HP. If thatw as true, anyone could pick up a GM crate 350, the 330HP motor and run 10's....it is not going to happen.
Suspension is setup and adjusted for the car. As long as you have the proper launch, 60' times, is all you need. gearing is solely dependant on the RPM range of the motor and it's effect on RPM when crossing at the big end, being in the HP range desired.I know of cars running 1.48 60' and running 10.11's at 134 on motor alone. And it's not a 300 HP SBC, it's a blown 502....
But if you think you can do it, use your knowledge, setup a rearend, buy this (http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevySmallBlockV8s/350_HO_Super_Deluxe.html) and go run some 10's.............. :up2somet:

it will take up to 425 rear wheel horsepower to get, 3100 into the 11.31 range, FYI

ieatdrt
07-01-2005, 01:19 PM
Well I've only been doing it for about 12yrs, but that has been done. That's an actual time. I'm not going to argue this point with you. I've seen it and funny thing is it was a GM crate motor, not straight out of the box, but a crate motor non the less. I'm also talking 10.99 not 10.1, but regardless I'm not going into a pissing contest on a forum.

Polecat
07-01-2005, 02:35 PM
Is that crate motor a 502 or 572 by chance? I don't argue the time for a SBC...trust, I know it's possible...just not with the HP you mention rearwheel....

bossman032
07-01-2005, 10:01 PM
R32's are nice if you like hatchbacks


they are great cars. but the price is kinda high. I think only 5000 were made. they are V6 and they handle very good they outhandle the sti and etc..powerwise its lower then sti. :uhoh:

Bigrick31
07-01-2005, 10:10 PM
alright if were talking about the mitsu evo 8 here ive seen some pretty impressive things done with them. what you will want to do is drop that 1.8L thats in it and go find yourself a 200-04 eclipse 2.4l engine. they are very simular. then you take parts such as the head and such from the evo engine and with a little modding they will fit on the 2.4l eclipse engine. then drop that in your car and begin modding that out. with bigger turbo blow off exhaust the whole shabang. you ould check www.eclipseforums.org. search around there there are some people who have don the engine mod to their eclipse or they could point you in the direction of an evo forum as i cant remember where i saw this mod done.

Bigrick31
07-01-2005, 10:10 PM
o yea and the guy on the evo forum who did the engine swap after a few mods i beleive he was pushing about 560hp nitrous free

marleyskater420
07-03-2005, 03:20 AM
dude, I've been building cars and drag racing since you were probably in diapers. There is no way you can get a 3100 lb car, not matter what light he's cutting, to run 11.31. With drivetrain loss of 30%, that motor is making 334HP. If thatw as true, anyone could pick up a GM crate 350, the 330HP motor and run 10's....it is not going to happen.
Suspension is setup and adjusted for the car. As long as you have the proper launch, 60' times, is all you need. gearing is solely dependant on the RPM range of the motor and it's effect on RPM when crossing at the big end, being in the HP range desired.I know of cars running 1.48 60' and running 10.11's at 134 on motor alone. And it's not a 300 HP SBC, it's a blown 502....
But if you think you can do it, use your knowledge, setup a rearend, buy this (http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevySmallBlockV8s/350_HO_Super_Deluxe.html) and go run some 10's.............. :up2somet:

it will take up to 425 rear wheel horsepower to get, 3100 into the 11.31 range, FYI
werd



ROFL. Sad isn't it. 10.9's in 300rearwhls/3000....Yes
As a matter of fact a guy grabbed a .513 light and ran 11.31 in a 3110lb camaro with 257 hp. Proper prep, the right conditions, and some knowledge, and yes you can break into the 10's with 300hp and 3000lbs. :rolleyes: :D :laugh:
Just in case you can't read either. That's Rear Wheel Hp not Bhp. Bhp would be a much higher number, if you still don't think it can be done then you need to learn about suspension and gearing a little more. Slapping 500hp in a stock chassis won't get you 10's it'll get you killed.

I cannot believe that 257rwhp in a 3110lb car ran 11.3, unless it produces about 500lbs of torque.

Maybe if it was fully gutted, full suspension, and the best gearing suitable.... I mean I've seen 500hp/2600lbs go 9's... so I know low hp/low et is possible.

I havent been doing this for long...but unless your friend had an amazing r/t and he has full setup suspension... I just can't allow myself to believe.

bossman032
07-04-2005, 03:07 PM
I rather have a civic 300hp and get 35mph then a V8 that does 500hp at 3000rpm and drinks gas like a Semi Truck..

Unless your rich or your dad owns a gas station then I would go for the 500hp car..

dbhittin
07-04-2005, 03:49 PM
friends built 302 with nos in a hardbody truck runs 10.7's all day... id say there around 500hp

marleyskater420
07-05-2005, 02:31 AM
I rather have a civic 300hp and get 35mph then a V8 that does 500hp at 3000rpm and drinks gas like a Semi Truck..

Unless your rich or your dad owns a gas station then I would go for the 500hp car..


Uhm..I get 12/20+ mpg... and I have roughly 400whp/450wtq.

Theres other fast 500hp cars that can get upper teens/low 20 gas mileage.

Dtowncats
07-05-2005, 09:51 AM
I say buy a decent fox body Mustang for 6-8k, buy an A4 or Dart block. Stroke it to a 331 or 347, twin turbo it, do a race suspension in it, and you are there. I doubt you would spend more than 25-30k on everything.

IA2
07-05-2005, 04:41 PM
alright if were talking about the mitsu evo 8 here ive seen some pretty impressive things done with them. what you will want to do is drop that 1.8L thats in it and go find yourself a 200-04 eclipse 2.4l engine. they are very simular. then you take parts such as the head and such from the evo engine and with a little modding they will fit on the 2.4l eclipse engine. then drop that in your car and begin modding that out. with bigger turbo blow off exhaust the whole shabang. you ould check www.eclipseforums.org. search around there there are some people who have don the engine mod to their eclipse or they could point you in the direction of an evo forum as i cant remember where i saw this mod done.


www.evolutionm.net

nobody there would agree with anything you just said however......(other than the bigger turbo/exhaust part) why would you go to all that trouble, when the evo engine can be stroked to 2.4l relatively easily? oh, and evos have 2.0 stock, not 1.8 :)

Dtowncats
07-07-2005, 03:02 AM
With drivetrain loss of 30%, that motor is making 334HP.1
Where do you get 30% drivetrain loss? Most cars have 20-22% if its an auto and 15-17% if its manual. And it is definitely possible to run 10s in a 300 hp car that weighs 3000 lbs. I have seen a stock motor fox Mustang run 12.8x with suspension, DRs, and exhaust. It also weighed more than 3000, more like 3200-3300 with the driver. And these cars are rated at 225 from Ford but most dyno at 195-205 at the wheels.

Polecat
07-07-2005, 10:43 AM
Where do you get 30% drivetrain loss? Most cars have 20-22% if its an auto and 15-17% if its manual. And it is definitely possible to run 10s in a 300 hp car that weighs 3000 lbs. I have seen a stock motor fox Mustang run 12.8x with suspension, DRs, and exhaust. It also weighed more than 3000, more like 3200-3300 with the driver. And these cars are rated at 225 from Ford but most dyno at 195-205 at the wheels.
30% is a common ground depending on suspention setup and traction of such track. Only 60' can determine actual. Too many variables, such as stall converter, rear air pressure in tires, engine heat at launch time,etc,etc.
And I still don't see a 300hp car, doing 10's unless it's with a 300HP shot of NOS, which then, now it's not a 300hp car. And true, depending on alltitude of the track, a stock Mustang can run 12.8's with a few mods....but getting from 12.8's to the 10's is a HUGE jump...just not a few seconds. It's like doing 140db, then doing 155db...

PS my 4200 lbs truck, with me, another 240 lbs ran 12.84's...

99StangGt
07-16-2005, 06:19 AM
I know this isnt impressive but my old tow rig was a 77 suburban 1/2 ton with a stock 454 and ran 16.1. It won the first race i raced in, way consistent. By the way Marleyskater my old nova was a 2700lb car tubbed( i did it all myself) The engine was a 427 chevy 11.0 to 1 pistons stock crank , polished 66 bathtub heads with big valves, Clay smith 310 low lift roller cam, Holley strip intake and a predator carb ran through a Turbo 350 manual shift with a 4000 stall to 4.56 gears with 14x32 slicks. I ran a 1.43 60' time

marleyskater420
07-16-2005, 04:55 PM
siiiiiiick ^

MisterGrubbs
07-21-2005, 03:57 AM
Mmm...Skyline GTR

Yummay

NJTStang11
07-26-2005, 09:51 PM
There is an excessive amount of rich stupid ricers on this site...
This comparison is for all the slow kids...
Let's say your not a rich snobby kid and you have $6k to play with. Ricer vs Domestic.

Ricer-
1990 CRX Clean Shell (No rusty POS)-$2k
JDM Motor + 5 Speed-$2.5k
Bolt ons (exhaust, intake, etc)-$1.5k
Times: 14.5

Domestic-
1990 Mustang GT Shell (Same, no rusty pos)-$2k
STOCK 5.0 Shortblock-$100
T5 Trans-$400
Heads, Cam, Intake Setup-$2.5k
Bolt ons (same as ricers, except mustang bolt ons=cheaper)-$1k
Times: 12.0

Domestics just make more sense as they are meant to go fast, unlike hondas, etc.
Don't get me wrong there are very respecatble imports (Evo's, Supra's, 1g DSM Cars), but 95% of the import drivers give the rest a bad name.

NJTStang11
07-26-2005, 09:53 PM
Where do you get 30% drivetrain loss? Most cars have 20-22% if its an auto and 15-17% if its manual. And it is definitely possible to run 10s in a 300 hp car that weighs 3000 lbs. I have seen a stock motor fox Mustang run 12.8x with suspension, DRs, and exhaust. It also weighed more than 3000, more like 3200-3300 with the driver. And these cars are rated at 225 from Ford but most dyno at 195-205 at the wheels.

Oh, and you sir please place the crackpipe down. A 300rwhp car weighing in at 3000 w. the driver wont run 10's...it'll be lucky to break 11's. Go do some more research before you post nonsense.

99StangGt
07-26-2005, 10:03 PM
Get a dragstrip program and see if 300hp will power a car to 10s. according to my dragstrip dyno program i plugged in all the info for my nova and it told me 10.70s and the engine made 600hp. the car ran 10.50. 300hp wont get you near 10s, i figure maybe high 12s. so i guess all those 03, 04 cobra owners with 400hp are just crappy drivers if they cant get into the 9s :laugh:

NJTStang11
07-26-2005, 10:09 PM
Get a dragstrip program and see if 300hp will power a car to 10s. according to my dragstrip dyno program i plugged in all the info for my nova and it told me 10.70s and the engine made 600hp. the car ran 10.50. 300hp wont get you near 10s, i figure maybe high 12s. so i guess all those 03, 04 cobra owners with 400hp are just crappy drivers if they cant get into the 9s :laugh:

300rwhp in a 3000lb car including driver is doable. My last car was around 300rwhp and weighed 3450 w/ driver and ran 12.7's. With the right suspension and a sticky tire, a 3000lb car can run 11's. 10's is a completely new story and way out of the question.

marleyskater420
07-30-2005, 10:59 PM
There is an excessive amount of rich stupid ricers on this site...
This comparison is for all the slow kids...
Let's say your not a rich snobby kid and you have $6k to play with. Ricer vs Domestic.

Ricer-
1990 CRX Clean Shell (No rusty POS)-$2k
JDM Motor + 5 Speed-$2.5k
Bolt ons (exhaust, intake, etc)-$1.5k
Times: 14.5

Domestic-
1990 Mustang GT Shell (Same, no rusty pos)-$2k
STOCK 5.0 Shortblock-$100
T5 Trans-$400
Heads, Cam, Intake Setup-$2.5k
Bolt ons (same as ricers, except mustang bolt ons=cheaper)-$1k
Times: 12.0

Domestics just make more sense as they are meant to go fast, unlike hondas, etc.
Don't get me wrong there are very respecatble imports (Evo's, Supra's, 1g DSM Cars), but 95% of the import drivers give the rest a bad name.

Maybe I'm lost..but I don't think all the bolt-ons for a 5.0 will net 12.0 times.. UNLESS the car is gutted, which I will readily believe, because the 5.0 can be gutted to 2600lbs.

Bartak1
08-17-2005, 07:33 PM
Pfft, my 99 F150 does 10's with a K&N sticker.