On the flip side, idiots on CACO thought I was a scammer when I listed my Stetsom V1K5 H for half of the going rate. I had a purpose built electrical system that idled at 14.5 volts thus making that amplifier totally useless to me, hence my low price. As a result, I sold it on DIYMA to a CACO member that could actually read.
^^ caco are feggs.. Especially joeyc23. I stated in a guys fs thread tht fi btl ufos go for 300, who would pay 250 for the motor? Got 5 likes, but wound up with a infraction... Bs
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The creator of the challenge has went on to say that his challenge only works with in the limits of his challenge. Do to how amplifiers are designed/built they all use some some sort of signal adjustment that is "fixed". This will create a different sound per each amp. If you use an outside source to adjust the signal enough again, you won't notice a difference. However, if you simply swap amps out and use the amps capabilities to adjust the signal the best you can there will be a difference.
So yes, a watt is a watt. However, after alteration by internal or external sources a watt is not longer just a watt.
The problem i notice with different price amps. Your audiopipe 1500 is going to pull a lot more current then your sundown audio 1500. YOur also paying more to need less electrical.
So... let me dumb this down a bit. Let's say on a scale from 1 -10 an Audison, Mac, F1, whatever can be tuned (altered) to sound like a 10. A Boss, or Pyle, Jensen, whatever can only be tuned or altered to sound like say... a 5? And in the parameters of his challenge he "de-tuned" the 10's to sound like 5's and tuned the 5's to their capabilities?
Is that what you're saying? Or can you tune the 5's to sound like 10's with good enough processing? Because I believe you can if we are operating within the capabilities of the amps and only using them as "amps" to amplify a procesed signal.
If a 2x100 Boss can only do 2x40 clean and we put it head to head with any other amp on the market to do 40w clean. You're telling me that there will be a difference? An AUDIBLE difference? If so, I need to do a lot more reading and critical listening.
In a since yes and no.
The difference with amplifiers is the onboard processing and of course the quality of parts used. Just because two amps have the ability to produce 2 x 40 with out clipping does not mean they will sound the same. In the real world using what the amp has to offer will generate a different sound each time.(some can hear the difference some can not).
With in the challenge per his rules, the "sound" is adjusted to a point where each amp almost mirrors each other. This is done by using external processing to achieve that "sound". Since the human ear is a horrible device to use for listening, we can not tell the difference. This means the test can not be beat as it is currently setup/structured.
I wish I was at my PC so I could type easier, I would love to go into a deeper talk but my evo blows for posting on forums.
Will 2 different amps sound different at the same power level without clipping ? They might ... Not because watts sound different, but because other factors may have an impact on the signal sent to the drivers.
Edit: Does anyone have the original challenge ? I can only find revised versions that have a different thesis statement than I remember from a decade ago.