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    Icon14 Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    What amps would all of you recommend for best SQ for MBQuart 6 1/2" components? Looking for around 75-100watts rms.







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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    U.S. Amps Vacuum Tube series amps, No doubt about it.
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    If you got the cash look in zapco




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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    I checked out their website and I like what I read...I'd be looking to get the 2ch. TU-600 to power my 6.5" components. I think I might get the Boston Pro 6.5's. I'm still kind of deciding in terms of components. But I like the fact that the Bostons operate at 3ohm, giving them a little more power.

    If anyone has any experience or knows anyone with US amps TU-600 or US amps in general please post.




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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    Look on ebay, Keyword US Amps, there is a brand new one w/ warranty, that you could get way under retail.
    I dont like spending butt loads of money for amps, US Amp are IMO the best amps out there, and im sure many would agree, look what competitors use




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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    You could run 2 sets of components off that amp easily. Look into some Image Dynamics chameleon components.
    Have you ever heard of horned tweeters?(HLCD)




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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    Yea I saw that amp on ebay. I'm thinkin about it right now..haha.

    I have heard of horned tweeters. Not much experience with them and I've never heard em. But share what you know.

    Also, I think at this point in time I am looking at buying the Boston Pro 6.5s after looking at Diamond, CDT, Focal, MBquart...If there are any other comps. you'd recommend let me know. I'll take a look at those ID's.

    Thanks.




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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    IMO there's no such thing as "clean" or not "clean" amps. There are amps that put out less power than they're rated for so they clip sooner than you expect them to, but that doesn't make them "dirty". Power is power, and power is what gets you good SQ (along with a good install) not spending hundreds of dollars on an amp because a refined marketing department said they're the best.

    As far as tube amps - they sound "different" simply because of extremely low DF's - but that certainly doesn't mean they sound clean. If you like ultra-inefficient, ultra-expensive amps that double as space heaters then maybe tubes are for you.

    Tru, Arc, US - I would agree that they all make great amps, and I'd put JL in that category too, but it's really not necessary to spend that kind of money just because you're an SQ person.




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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    My take on amp for what its worth...

    You get what you pay for. In theory, power is power and all an amp should do is turn a low amplitude signal into a higher amplitude signal without adding anything to the sound. If it were that simple then every amp would be the same and there would only be one company making them all the engineers working for all the amp manufacturers would be out a job.

    What are the differences between budget amps and the more expensive ones? Generally efficiency, reliability and consistancy. Higher priced amps are generally overbuilt. They typically use higher quality components inside the amp making for tighter tolerances and better reliability. They spec transistors, diodes and power supplies that can safely flow much more current than that size amp calls for. This also leads to greater reliability. Overspeced components also deal better with heat. Heat is the enemy of efficiency. Budget amps might make their rated power but how close to their limits are they coming while doing that? Higher quality amps will make their rated power and then some. The "then some" is the margin of safety built into the amp. Typically quality control is better in higher priced amps as well. Tighter tolerances and more attention to the quality of the product lead to a more consistent product getting to the consumer. There is less chance of getting an amp with audible defects such as crossover distortion and asymetric output wave forms caused by mismatched tranistor pairs. These problems are audible and are much more common in lower priced amps, in fact one of the major magazines noted audible crossover distortion in an amp sent to them for testing. CA&E used to find it all the time in budget amps sent to them for head-to-head tests.

    Like I said, you get what you pay for. There are great budget amps out there, the problem is you can't reliably get one of them every time. Some companies are better than others as is always the case but you can generally rely on one of the higher priced amps to perform as advertised and then some every time.

    Again, just how I see it, take it for what it's worth.



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    Re: Clean SQ amp for MBQuart Comps.

    Another good SQ amp to look for would be any of the Pioneer Premier amplifiers. They are very reliably built and solid amps, if you dont believe me, look in my gallery, I have one. Take a look at my birthsheet, it does twice its rated power and never breaks a sweat doing it. Even though it is a class A amplifier it never even gets warm to the touch. Premier amps have been regarded as one of the highest qualtiy "SQ" amps there is. Ask anyone on the forums, if you can find them and have the power for them, then they are great.



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    Quote Originally Posted by n2audio
    IMO there's no such thing as "clean" or not "clean" amps. There are amps that put out less power than they're rated for so they clip sooner than you expect them to, but that doesn't make them "dirty". Power is power, and power is what gets you good SQ (along with a good install) not spending hundreds of dollars on an amp because a refined marketing department said they're the best.

    As far as tube amps - they sound "different" simply because of extremely low DF's - but that certainly doesn't mean they sound clean. If you like ultra-inefficient, ultra-expensive amps that double as space heaters then maybe tubes are for you.

    Tru, Arc, US - I would agree that they all make great amps, and I'd put JL in that category too, but it's really not necessary to spend that kind of money just because you're an SQ person.
    I personnally would not put JL in this category maybe MMats but not JL, Mckintosh yes, JL no.
    The TU-600 is the best amp i have ever heard, hense my recommendations. US Amps has marketing now? I live in the 4th largest city in the US and no US Amps for 6oo miles.

    Well if power is power im going to rush out and buy 30 crunch amps for my aspire.
    Sweet, just think ive been waisting all my cash on marketing, Doh




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    anyone who argues saying a higher end amp is better than a lower end amp if you are comparing a true 100 watt vs. true 100 watt amplifier is a moron. i have seen 1 exception to this rule and that was an amp doing 10%thd. under 2% typically is the average person's audible range. a tube amp sounds "warmer" due to the tube's in it that add a certain kind of audible change in the amp. basically what it does is change the way you hear the signal being put out from the amp. yes i realize that me saying a watt is a watt so get cheap amps and be fine is odd b/c i own 2 zapco's with a 3rd coming in july but it is true. i used to run us acoustics and aside from the whine it created i heard no difference in my midbass drivers. now what most people consider to be "cleaner" is someone with a boss 150x2 vs. say a zapco that is rated at 150x2. now why do people feel this is cleaner b/c they are hearing 50 watts on average from the boss to 150 or more out of the zapco amp this gives our ears a "cleaner" sense of audio sound b/c the 50 watts is quieter. now this may seem a rant and yes i used to feel that more $$ and higher end amps meant the amp would sound so much better. trust me i've done blind tests and couldn't tell a difference between a tru C7 and a avionixx amp. oh and to the higher componets yeah they spend 35-80 cents a piece instead of 15-35.

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