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    Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    I'm still on the hunt for the perfect amp to power my Focal 165k2 component set, and I think I'm going to go with Arc audio. How much better is the XKR series than the CXL? The XKR is only $15.00 more but I like the looks of the CXL better. Would both of these be a better choice than a JL 300/2 even though they have slightly less power? Any other options for a great sounding amp for my Focal's?

    $440.10 at www.rainarc.com (authorized online dealer)


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    Also would it be worth the extra $75-100 to buy it from the authorized dealer?







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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    amps do not sound good or bad. The JL amp u have is more than decent and u will not notice a difference by getting the arc amp.



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    I've had a long standing relationship with Arc Audio and have put their products through numerous testing. They are extremely well built and are one of the most "efficient" running amplifier lines I've come across.
    I think you should definitely look into the either the XKR or the CXL. I don't think you'll be dissapointed with thier performance.




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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by capone28
    amps do not sound good or bad. The JL amp u have is more than decent and u will not notice a difference by getting the arc amp.
    I have to disaree. There are some pretty poor sounding amps on the market. I agree that the average person may not be able to tell the difference between two high quality amps such as JL and Arc.



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by JTCL
    I have to disaree. There are some pretty poor sounding amps on the market. I agree that the average person may not be able to tell the difference between two high quality amps such as JL and Arc.
    You would be correct sir. If amps didn't sound good or bad then I would be running my system with Jensen amps.

    But I would go with Arc in this case. To answer another question....I would go with the XKR series. And also I would get it through the authorized dealer. Its ALWAYS a good idea to buy equipment through the proper channels. This way you'll get good support should something go wrong.



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    You know, this thread reminds me of a couple months ago when a forum member mentioned something that has changed my mind about amps......
    It was about some engineer on the EAST COAST who gave a challenge that if anyone in the world could tell the diffrence or prove one amp "sounded" better than another he would give them 1 million dollars or something like that. I thought this was the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard.....Sure enough I looked into it and the guy was telling the truth and a million guys have taken the challenge and not one guy has won the Million Dollars.
    Now does that mean I am going to get a JENSEN..HELL NO!!
    But I am no longer gonna go High budget on an amp.

    Effeciency..features...no deal there..but apparently by scientific definition..an AMP is an AMP when it comes to sound quality and power..I know it sounds ridiculous.

    Who is it that broke this story on here I can't remember thier name???




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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Does anyone know if Arc will modify the 2100 for slightly more power? I know some companies such as Zapco will do this for a small fee. Also is there a plexi-glass cover avalible for the Arc amps?



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by Depression
    You know, this thread reminds me of a couple months ago when a forum member mentioned something that has changed my mind about amps......
    It was about some engineer on the EAST COAST who gave a challenge that if anyone in the world could tell the diffrence or prove one amp "sounded" better than another he would give them 1 million dollars or something like that. I thought this was the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard.....Sure enough I looked into it and the guy was telling the truth and a million guys have taken the challenge and not one guy has won the Million Dollars.
    Now does that mean I am going to get a JENSEN..HELL NO!!
    But I am no longer gonna go High budget on an amp.

    Effeciency..features...no deal there..but apparently by scientific definition..an AMP is an AMP when it comes to sound quality and power..I know it sounds ridiculous.

    Who is it that broke this story on here I can't remember thier name???
    yup, ur right.

    But those noobs can believe what they want.

    Amplification does not sound like anything. It simply amplifies a speaker.

    Now the reason why an Arc amp is better than geting my JBL amp, for example it would have a subsonic filter, needed for ported applications, or it would have a much better Xover. So it is not the amp itself that effects SQ its a feature that may come along with it that effects it.



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by capone28
    So it is not the amp itself that effects SQ its a feature that may come along with it that effects it.


    A watt is a watt.



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by capone28
    yup, ur right.

    But those noobs can believe what they want.

    Amplification does not sound like anything. It simply amplifies a speaker.

    Now the reason why an Arc amp is better than geting my JBL amp, for example it would have a subsonic filter, needed for ported applications, or it would have a much better Xover. So it is not the amp itself that effects SQ its a feature that may come along with it that effects it.
    Well, not to get technical but since you already did, why not. Actually in all reality an amp actually amplifies the signal you're sending to it...NOT.....the speaker itself. Features are NOT what make one amp better than the other. You can have cheap *** poor sounding amps that have alot of features. You can have a high priced amp that doesn't have too many features but is of course worth the extra money, maybe not to everyone but to alot of us.

    To say that a watt is a watt in my opinion isn't entirely true. Now you may not be able to tell the difference between 2 comparably priced amps but you can't say you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a McIntosh amp and a Jensen amp. See what I'm saying.

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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    do companies sprinkle special dust over the amp to create that distinct "sound quality"?

    or do they put a blanket over a tube amp thus making it sound "warm"?

    or do they have a built-in treble control that makes it sound "bright"?

    nope. how do u tell the difference between watts? YOU CAN'T. why? because by definition, a watt is a measurement. now if u can hear difference between measurements then i would bow down to you. its like saying "my 10lbs of brick weighs more than your 10lbs of polyfill!" are there more than one type of watt? does JL or jensen make their own kind of watt?

    is 12v from an optima yellow top any better than 12v from a duralast battery? "yum..my bottle water tastes better than sink water because bottled water came in a bottle." gee..wonder where that water in the bottle came from... purify both water and its the same darn thing.

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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by adam71
    Well, not to get technical but since you already did, why not. Actually in all reality an amp actually amplifies the signal you're sending to it...NOT.....the speaker itself. Features are NOT what make one amp better than the other. You can have cheap *** poor sounding amps that have alot of features. You can have a high priced amp that doesn't have too many features but is of course worth the extra money, maybe not to everyone but to alot of us.

    To say that a watt is a watt in my opinion isn't entirely true. Now you may not be able to tell the difference between 2 comparably priced amps but you can't say you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a McIntosh amp and a Jensen amp. See what I'm saying.

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    sorry, ur wrong, get over it. If u believe ur right then go win urself a shitload of cash. didnt u read depressions post.



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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by capone28
    sorry, ur wrong, get over it. If u believe ur right then go win urself a shitload of cash. didnt u read depressions post.
    I'm NOT wrong. I'm just trying to make a point. I'm just trying to say that there are differences between amps NOT watts. Which is why I said it wasn't "entirely" true. All I'm saying is a Pioneer (Premier) PRS amplifier rated at 50 watts per channel would be a better (cleaner) 50 watts than a Jensen amp rated at the same power.

    I'm not trying to argue with you guys or talk physics, because I would be lost if I was. All I'm saying is there are reasons for paying more for a different brand of amp other than just features. Thats all.

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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    a watt is a watt. period.

    you pay for features, durability, reliability, and all that good stuff. if an amp is installed correctly and putting out a CLEAN signal, it will not allow you to differentiate between amps.

    now stop being so closed-minded and try to learn something.

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    Re: Arc audio 2100-XKR vs. 2100-CXL

    Quote Originally Posted by nswartley
    a watt is a watt. period.

    you pay for features, durability, reliability, and all that good stuff. if an amp is installed correctly and putting out a CLEAN signal, it will not allow you to differentiate between amps.

    now stop being so closed-minded and try to learn something.

    -nate
    Thats what I'm talking about.....a "CLEAN" signal. Thats where better amps blow away the cheaper amps. My mind is open all the time. So please don't try to tell me what I already know.


    This has been beaten to death so lets all let it rest.

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