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    Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    I'm looking at the specs on the Phoenix Gold Xenon 400.1 Mono amp, and it says stable load at 4, 2, and 1 ohm load. I understand that with my soon to be installed PG X10d2, my wiring will drop it to a 1 ohm subwoofer, and that the amp is designed to handle this.

    But does the amp increase in output? Or because it was designed to be able to handle the 1 ohm, will it stay around 400 rms? I'd believe the amp would increase in output, but I'd like to know for sure.

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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    it puts out 400w at all loads. same as the jl slash series.




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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    It's still all good. I was looking at Birth sheets and I've seen this putting out nearly 600 RMS at 4 ohms on 1 sheet, so it'll fit my application perfectly

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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankensuby View Post
    I'm looking at the specs on the Phoenix Gold Xenon 400.1 Mono amp, and it says stable load at 4, 2, and 1 ohm load. I understand that with my soon to be installed PG X10d2, my wiring will drop it to a 1 ohm subwoofer, and that the amp is designed to handle this.

    But does the amp increase in output? Or because it was designed to be able to handle the 1 ohm, will it stay around 400 rms? I'd believe the amp would increase in output, but I'd like to know for sure.

    ~Levi
    Do not wire the xenon @ 1 ohm. You wont gain anyting, but current draw. Its pointless.



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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    I agree, wire it for 4 ohm; more efficient...




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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    I'm not good with the wiring. Only tutorial or diagrams I see on sub wiring shows how to make the sub go down in ohm. How would one go about wiring a DVC 2 0hm sub up to 4 ohm?

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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    in series





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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankensuby View Post
    I'm not good with the wiring. Only tutorial or diagrams I see on sub wiring shows how to make the sub go down in ohm. How would one go about wiring a DVC 2 0hm sub up to 4 ohm?

    ~Levi




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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    i thought the xenon amps , no matter what ohm , 1-4 ohm, thrown at it that itll make itself 'see' 4 ohms. maybe i misunderstood but thats what i gathered.
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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    I found something interesting:

    http://www.phoenixgold.com/2004/wiringtutorial.html

    Apparently the Mono block amps make the best power at 2 ohm, whereas multichannel makes best at 4 ohms.

    I e-mailed them on how to wire the amp into the X10d2, hopefully they will reply.

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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankensuby View Post
    I found something interesting:

    http://www.phoenixgold.com/2004/wiringtutorial.html

    Apparently the Mono block amps make the best power at 2 ohm, whereas multichannel makes best at 4 ohms.

    I e-mailed them on how to wire the amp into the X10d2, hopefully they will reply.

    ~Levi
    The xenons make the same power at all ohm loads!!!! Wire it at 4 ohms, and be done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towncar View Post
    The xenons make the same power at all ohm loads!!!! Wire it at 4 ohms, and be done with it.

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    I know it says that, but the PG site SPECIFICALLY says that their Mono blocks make MOST at 2 ohms. I will wire it to 4 ohms most likely, unless there is a way to make it 2 ohms.

    The difference could be negligible, but it still states from PG, that it is best at 2 ohms. I was just trying to let everyone know

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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    Because of the way the load optimizing circuit in the amp works it will make the most power at2 ohms, however you won't be able to hear the difference.

    If you have a single D2 sub wire it to 4 ohms. The amp will run cooler and still give the same basic power as it would at 1 ohm.



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    Re: Phoenix Gold 400.1...Confused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankensuby View Post
    I know it says that, but the PG site SPECIFICALLY says that their Mono blocks make MOST at 2 ohms. I will wire it to 4 ohms most likely, unless there is a way to make it 2 ohms.

    The difference could be negligible, but it still states from PG, that it is best at 2 ohms. I was just trying to let everyone know

    ~Levi
    You're not getting this.

    1) You cannot wire your dual voice coil sub to 2 ohms on that amp without using just one coil and I highly recommend NOT doing this.
    2) The xenon line of amps will do about the same power from 1-4 ohms. What they have one the site is talking about their other lines and it is "technically" correct with xenon line as well.

    Your logic is incorrect with their statement:
    "*Phoenix Gold Mono Block amps make full power at 2 ohm"

    This is what you think it says:
    "*Phoenix Gold Mono Block amps put out the most power at 2 ohm"

    That is faulty logic. The max power the xenon 400.1 does is a rated 400rms. At 2 ohms, the amp does full power. At 1 ohm, this amp also does it's rated power. At 4 ohms, this amp also does it's rated power.

    Do you understand now that your logic is incorrect? Everybody else seems to understand this, why can't you?



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