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    Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!



    This blows! I haven't had my setup in for over a month now and today I was told the amp is bad since it plays only when it wants too. The audio place is sending my 800.4 down in the sig back to be fixed but it will take 4-6 weeks to get it (probably more!). I can't go that long so I want to just buy a new one to go in it and sell the old one when it comes back. I think the way it was set up before I had 100W going to the front components and 100W going to the rear 6x9's off the 800.4. I thought they could use more so I want to hit them with more power. Can I go 2 Ohm? If I got another Kicker amp what size 4 channel or 2 channel could I put in to drive them to the max but safely?? From the CDT site the HD52Z's say 160W and the store told me today my 6x9's are 100W RMS and 200W max. Would a 850.4 be a nice upgrade or should I do a 2 channel or possibly 2 Ohm? I want to get the most out of what I have. I need to get something ordered TODAY though. Thanks for any help!


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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    what kind of moeny do you have to spend on an amp?




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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    I was hoping in the $500 range. I am not an amp expert but I think if I go 2 channel I will have no fade adjustment. If I go 4 channel I have this option and I have no clue what going 2 Ohm will do for me other than they say it will scream. Any thoughts?



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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Intercooler
    I was hoping in the $500 range. I am not an amp expert but I think if I go 2 channel I will have no fade adjustment. If I go 4 channel I have this option and I have no clue what going 2 Ohm will do for me other than they say it will scream. Any thoughts?
    with a 2 channel you will lose either fade or balance control. to drop it down to 2 ohms, you will need to have two 4 ohm speakers on each channel. an amp doesnt dictate what ohm to operate at. it is told by the speakers, for lack of a better way of putting it. so to get an amp down to 2 ohm, you will need to run your fronts together and your rears together. on a 2 channel amp most likely. but you will have no balance control though.




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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    try loosing the 6x9's and running the components up front off af 200 watts rms. in a properly imaged setup, there should be no need for 400 watts rms. imo you are pulling your front stage to the back with the subs and that is why it doesn't sound as loud.




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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    Quote Originally Posted by iceteebone
    try loosing the 6x9's and running the components up front off af 200 watts rms. in a properly imaged setup, there should be no need for 400 watts rms. imo you are pulling your front stage to the back with the subs and that is why it doesn't sound as loud.
    Do away with the 6x9's totally? Won't it sound like crap? The audio place suggested the rear fill. If I hack them out then do I put a two channel or four channel in? What power and will I have balance/fade control?



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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Intercooler
    Do away with the 6x9's totally? Won't it sound like crap? The audio place suggested the rear fill. If I hack them out then do I put a two channel or four channel in? What power and will I have balance/fade control?

    it should sound better. if you are this frieghtened to remove the rear fill, run the 6x9's off the headunit. most people use the concert comparison. when you are at a concert you don't stand with your back facing the concert right? it comes from in front of you just like it should in your car. where are your components located up front? you would only have balance because you have no rear speakers to fade to lol.




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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    Quote Originally Posted by iceteebone
    it should sound better. if you are this frieghtened to remove the rear fill, run the 6x9's off the headunit. most people use the concert comparison. when you are at a concert you don't stand with your back facing the concert right? it comes from in front of you just like it should in your car. where are your components located up front? you would only have balance because you have no rear speakers to fade to lol.
    Balance... right


    My 5.25's are in the factory pods down low on the door and my tweets are mounted up on the door panels by the handles. Doing it your way do I need a 2 or 4 channel and what size can I drive the **** out of them with??



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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Intercooler
    Balance... right


    My 5.25's are in the factory pods down low on the door and my tweets are mounted up on the door panels by the handles. Doing it your way do I need a 2 or 4 channel and what size can I drive the **** out of them with??

    these are component sets right? they are hooked up to 2 channels on your current setup right? i don't think you need me to tell you the answer either a 2 channel or a 4 channel bridged will work.




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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    I love when people use the concert effect. You have to remember in most concerts there bass speakers are up front as well. I have done this where you take out the back speakers and just have the fronts going with a clean amp. It sounded ok but I still perfer to have the effect the the sound is surrounding me. I mean is just my opinion. What I did for my recent sysetem is put in 2 sets of alpine type x's. 2 in the factory door location and 2 in a custom rear panel. It sounds ok but I am also in same situation as need a cleaner more powerful amp.

    I think you have some good equipment there. I however dont think you need a kicker 800.4. Try looking into the mclass memphis highs amp. I have heard nothing but good things on those. I will be getting one of those soon. Peace!



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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    send the kicker kx800.4 back to kicker they'll have it back to you QUICK!!! polecat says 36-48 hrs total turn around time.. plus they pay shipping back to you.... GREAT SERVICE i just had a zr360 repaired and it only cost me 37 bucks...



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    Re: Need some help with a new amp since mine just went toes up in less than a month!!

    YGPM my friend!




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