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    PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    Ok, I could probably get all these amps around the same price which is around 100-150. SO price is not a factor. These amps are:

    - Pg Tantrum 500.2 (used)
    125x2(4 ohm stereo)
    250x 2 (2 ohm stereo)
    500x1(4 ohm bridged)

    - Eclipse 3350 (new)
    130x2@4ohms
    200x2@2ohms
    400x1@4ohms

    - PPI Chrome pc2150 (used)
    150x2@4ohm
    300x2@2ohm
    600x1@4ohms

    Want to know most efficient, reliable, and SQ SQ SQ.







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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    tantrum. very reliable, great sounding amp.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    IC... at what voltage are the tantrum amps rated at?




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    go for the pg...they have good sq




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    aiight, Imma give it a try thanks.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    I would have to choose the Power Class PPI over the others. It has more rated power and was rated at 12v. Also it was a bit under rated. Nothing against the others but that older PPI stuff is hard to beat.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    All tantrum amps put out far more than the rated specs. here is some info on it

    ftp://208.187.38.55/Phoenix_Gold/Man...ifiers/Tantrum




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    Go for whichever has the power and features you need at the best price.

    Don't base your decision off of "SQ" of them, however.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    Well, since they are used, I wanted opinion on which of them wee most reliable so they dont go breaking down on me down the road, or by the time I can afford another one. I am gonna use them temporarily for 2 w0s bridged. Then later on the road to some good components. Thanks for the inputs




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    both the PG and the PPI should be equally reliable. Since you are going to be running it on subs, as squeak said get the one with the power and price that fit you best. I haven't seen bench test on both but I really doubt the PG would out power the PPI.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    Well, while I have no personal experience, I have heard nothing but great things abou the Eclipse amps as well.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    I vote for the tantrum, I'm not exactly impartial though. I'll be running 2 tantrum amps in another week or 2. I like the flexible crossover they have on them; great for someone without a built in crossover on their deck.

    I haven't heard anything bad about any of those amps. PPI might be my 1st choice if I wasn't such a tantrum fan at the moment.

    EDIT: I'd highly doubt you'll notice any difference in SQ between those amps.



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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    None of those listed is going to match the PPI. However, even though the Chrome PPI's were still built with the good components, they had a tendancy to overheat. Its still going to push more than double its rated power. As far as SQ goes, PPI takes the cake and the left over frosting. In "96" PPI powered every winning car in all 16 IASCA categories except one, where it tied with Zapco. Phoenix gold came in third almost every category, and Fosgate took almost every category for second.
    Eclipse is some awesome sounding power, but it puts out just about what its rated.



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    PPI... PC450 4 channel
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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Diplexers
    None of those listed is going to match the PPI. However, even though the Chrome PPI's were still built with the good components, they had a tendancy to overheat. Its still going to push more than double its rated power. As far as SQ goes, PPI takes the cake and the left over frosting. In "96" PPI powered every winning car in all 16 IASCA categories except one, where it tied with Zapco. Phoenix gold came in third almost every category, and Fosgate took almost every category for second.
    Eclipse is some awesome sounding power, but it puts out just about what its rated.
    So based on that the ppi is going to sound better. If anything the speaker is going to determine more of that. Competitions dont mean Ish. Go with what you think looks better, or what you can get the best price on.




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    Re: PG vs Eclipse vs PPI for SQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackenzie
    So based on that the ppi is going to sound better. If anything the speaker is going to determine more of that. Competitions dont mean Ish. Go with what you think looks better, or what you can get the best price on.
    I was making a point. PPI does double its rated power, while sounding excellent. Why pay for 600 watts when you can get 1200 for the same price? Just a thought, if competitions don't mean squat why do they have them. By the way it was the sq trophies PPI won. It may be coincidence if they win three or four category's, but all 16? Not a coincidence. You can't argue with a legend. Old school PPI is almost mythical.



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