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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papermaker85 View Post
    i set my sub high as i can without drawing the stage rearward its really a level matching issues when you have your phase/time alignment right..
    you have the PWXs sealed? how do they do with the substage when its cranked?

    man @ciaonzo sold me the best sounding PA drivers I've ever heard these things legit play do to 35hz up well into the midrange with ease and sound transparent. alittle dryer than my 6.5s but still very realistic maybe more so than my 6.5s around 250 to 500.. they are super clean even moving more than im comfortable with a midbass moving. lol i wouldn't be suprised if they have 7 ot 8mm xmax
    my sub stage is right there by the B pillar so its kind hard having it being dragged behind me since it already feels like its in front even at full tilt.

    By itself it feels like I already have subs in my car with the subs turned and hpf still at 80hz. With hpf off or at 50hz its literally sub bass central and my door panels cant handle it even with all the deadening I did, lowest it played with authority was 28hz. It keeps up midbass wise until about 152 db then the sub stage completely drowns it whenever a 40-55hz note hits, its fine with 35hz and under material.

    I normally dont bass loud anyways since I live in the city and I dont like shaking people's houses I only bass hard if i'm on the freeway or doing demos at shows. So i'm at most listening to at most 140db of sub stage max on the daily.



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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffdachef View Post
    my sub stage is right there by the B pillar so its kind hard having it being dragged behind me since it already feels like its in front even at full tilt.

    By itself it feels like I already have subs in my car with the subs turned and hpf still at 80hz. With hpf off or at 50hz its literally sub bass central and my door panels cant handle it even with all the deadening I did, lowest it played with authority was 28hz. It keeps up midbass wise until about 152 db then the sub stage completely drowns it whenever a 40-55hz note hits, its fine with 35hz and under material.

    I normally dont bass loud anyways since I live in the city and I dont like shaking people's houses I only bass hard if i'm on the freeway or doing demos at shows. So i'm at most listening to at most 140db of sub stage max on the daily.
    **** wish you where closer.
    for years i told peeps walls sounded better. not so many phase issues(trucks sometime with 2 woofers but 4 woofers port in the center works great) you can hear the woofers and the woofers sound much more upfront. cars downright **** for systems.



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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    ditto on cranking it. when you do 150+ on music its actually pretty disturbing and disrespectful. unless your dowtown by the clubs ten you ARE the club. lol



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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papermaker85 View Post
    look here.. when got into actual sound i realized i've been listing to bass mekanik all wrong all these years. you don't know ho much the 80-250hz range make the bass complete! get you a good pair of 10" PA drivers with 400 per side. you will thank me later
    Maybe one day but for now it's all about spl.




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    Maybe one day but for now it's all about spl.
    im about to do a SPL install. lol im gonna try to do a easy inchangable port and tuned low for daily but its gonna be a burp build..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Papermaker85 View Post
    im about to do a SPL install. lol im gonna try to do a easy inchangable port and tuned low for daily but its gonna be a burp build..

    The one I'm beginning to work on will be strictly for burps and the entire thing (amp, box, h/u, electrical system) will be completely removable after the show and is powered 100% by batteries.




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    The one I'm beginning to work on will be strictly for burps and the entire thing (amp, box, h/u, electrical system) will be completely removable after the show and is powered 100% by batteries.
    what batteries? id suggest a nice cap bank to avoid voltage sag!



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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papermaker85 View Post
    man @ciaonzo sold me the best sounding PA drivers I've ever heard these things legit play do to 35hz up well into the midrange with ease and sound transparent. alittle dryer than my 6.5s but still very realistic maybe more so than my 6.5s around 250 to 500.. they are super clean even moving more than im comfortable with a midbass moving. lol i wouldn't be suprised if they have 7 ot 8mm xmax
    Yeah, those things are monsters. High sensitivity, stupid power handling, and gobs of clean excursion for crazy output with headroom to spare. B&C makes those for McCauley for use in one of their high fidelity concert line array systems. Unicorns for sure, glad you're enjoying them.



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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

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    what batteries? id suggest a nice cap bank to avoid voltage sag!
    XS D1400 so the voltage stays up. I figured 50ah should get me a total of 26-30mins of burping. It sucks that a charger for a 14v agm is $200.




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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    Yeah, those things are monsters. High sensitivity, stupid power handling, and gobs of clean excursion for crazy output with headroom to spare. B&C makes those for McCauley for use in one of their high fidelity concert line array systems. Unicorns for sure, glad you're enjoying them.
    i want another pair! im glad i got um. the freak drum tracks are so loud that it exceeds some band drum lines i've heard and i only havve 250 per side i want to do 400. thanks again! lol



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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papermaker85 View Post
    What curve do you guys prefer?
    I like the smiley face curve for the most part
    Bass slowly sloping down to about 500 with the largest dip around 4k and a shallow rise from 12k up.
    I like a relatively flat curve until 50hz and below.
    I also like girls with small tops and nice bottom ends.

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    I like a relatively flat curve until 50hz and below.
    I also like girls with small tops and nice bottom ends.

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    Re: Preferred frequency response curve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papermaker85 View Post
    **** wish you where closer.
    for years i told peeps walls sounded better. not so many phase issues(trucks sometime with 2 woofers but 4 woofers port in the center works great) you can hear the woofers and the woofers sound much more upfront. cars downright **** for systems.
    eh, this is the best I can do with my sh*tty phone mic. Still got 6 volume clicks to go but anymore than 56, that tiny smart phone mic eats sh*t completely. This is at 80hz high passed.




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