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    Look's like a **** packing job to me. Was there even buble wrap around the amp? I always use bubble wrap, cardboard paper, newspaper, and more bubble wrap and or foam when i ship amps or something similar. Heck if you were to figure out how much tape it would take to stick kovemaster to the wall and hold him there for an hour then thats what some of my box's look like ( that much tape ).



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    Quote Originally Posted by AllStar1500bd View Post
    I'm defending faulkton here mostly because it seems he's trying to help you on an amplifier that you purchased "as-is". You took a chance, especially when faulkton said...

    "If it works ya get a great deal, if not ya get a mediocre deal at best."

    That's what happens when you take chances buying electronics used online.

    Hmm. Unless something being sold on here is backed by a factory warranty, I'm pretty sure everything is "as-is".

    I think he's more concerned about the broken foot, and probably irritated by the green slime.

    Either of which, if present when shipped, probably should've been pointed out.

    It was insured, file the claim. It broke as a result of insufficient packaging in the area of the mounting foot.

    I fail to see how selling something "as-is" makes damage occurring from poor packaging alright.



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    Re: faulkton= bad trader

    I thought OP understood that the amp did not work I don't believe anyone ever mentioned to him that the settings may be broken off and the foot was broken off. Even the foot being broken off is one thing not a real biggie I guess getting an amp that cheap but all of the other damage could have been prevented. (unless it was noted before OP purchased)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Toasted1 View Post
    I thought OP understood that the amp did not work I don't believe anyone ever mentioned to him that the settings may be broken off and the foot was broken off. Even the foot being broken off is one thing not a real biggie I guess getting an amp that cheap but all of the other damage could have been prevented. (unless it was noted before OP purchased)
    I think the green slime or whatever it is should have been mentioned lol. Who knows i feel for the guy but hey things happen. It just looked like a crap shipping job to me. Regaurdless of the details discussed about if the amp worked or not. Besides the OP didnt provide enough info, and has only made what 2 posts? I like your sig by the way toasted.. +1 for joo.



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    I realize that everyone does not have access to peoper packing materials, but I was always told that anything of value being shipped should be able to survive a 6-8 foot drop. I think I overpacked the last 2 things I shipped. I'm sure it will get fixed though. Faulkton can't go without ca.com



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    Re: faulkton= bad trader

    Quote Originally Posted by AllStar1500bd View Post
    With that being said, you knew what to expect.



    Sounds like you're run of the mill amp damaged in shipping... has happened to me twice with the knobs being pushed in. Looks like it was packed fairly. A UPS claim should take care of it.

    UPS has automatic package protection up to $100.

    I'm defending faulkton here mostly because it seems he's trying to help you on an amplifier that you purchased "as-is". You took a chance, especially when faulkton said...

    "If it works ya get a great deal, if not ya get a mediocre deal at best."

    That's what happens when you take chances buying electronics used online.
    yeah. Youre defending him. No biggie though. All I know is if this flies youre telling everyone on this forum that decent packaging isnt a sellers responsibilty. Apparently the chance ya take on this forum is dealing with honesty and responsibility.

    Id shy away from any person in this thread that thinks this crap is okay. Pretty freakin shady.

    Its usps, no insurance. As is doesnt mean broke to ****. I didnt buy a hammered amp.




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    After reading all 5 pages(so far) of the thread, I've come to the conclusion that IFthis hasn't/isn't going to be resolved by the seller then the TC has the right to make this claim. I, however do agree that many may be siding with one due to 'rep' on the board. Business is business, friend or not. You'd be pissed if your best friend did something screwed up to you; so if it's a complete stranger and you're taking their word then you'd not want any problem.

    However, as he stated in the original, he didn't care if the amp didn't work or not; as the seller stated it could be fixed for around $150; but, when you receive your product with more damage than described, you'd get pretty upset. Sure, you can blame the shipping company; but that is also in part the sellers responsibility to know to package their product that much more safe. From the pictures; we all as sellers/buyers/traders know that something as fragile as an amp would not last even with the best shipping company let alone USPS(people who deliver mail;FYI) =0.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Acizzle423 View Post
    After reading all 5 pages(so far) of the thread, I've come to the conclusion that IFthis hasn't/isn't going to be resolved by the seller then the TC has the right to make this claim. I, however do agree that many may be siding with one due to 'rep' on the board. Business is business, friend or not. You'd be pissed if your best friend did something screwed up to you; so if it's a complete stranger and you're taking their word then you'd not want any problem.

    However, as he stated in the original, he didn't care if the amp didn't work or not; as the seller stated it could be fixed for around $150; but, when you receive your product with more damage than described, you'd get pretty upset. Sure, you can blame the shipping company; but that is also in part the sellers responsibility to know to package their product that much more safe. From the pictures; we all as sellers/buyers/traders know that something as fragile as an amp would not last even with the best shipping company let alone USPS(people who deliver mail;FYI) =0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lingerfelt View Post
    I fail to see how selling something "as-is" makes damage occurring from poor packaging alright.
    Nice job making 2+2=7. The statement that came from faulkton makes it "as-is". I do agree that it would have been better if bubble wrap was used around the amp.


    Take a look at the packaging, just from the pics you can tell the box was thrown around a little by those hard-working intelligent young men at UPS.




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    5 pages and still no reply from Faulkton? very unlike him



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    Quote Originally Posted by AllStar1500bd View Post
    Nice job making 2+2=7. The statement that came from faulkton makes it "as-is". I do agree that it would have been better if bubble wrap was used around the amp.


    Take a look at the packaging, just from the pics you can tell the box was thrown around a little by those hard-working intelligent young men at UPS.
    And read my quote sir.
    Sure, you can blame the shipping company; but that is also in part the sellers responsibility to know to package their product that much more safe. From the pictures; we all as sellers/buyers/traders know that something as fragile as an amp would not last even with the best shipping company let alone USPS(people who deliver mail;FYI) =0.
    I don't see how you justify poor packaging with "as-is". If that's the case then if you were to buy my sub and I just put it in a box and sent it to you, but "as-is";and you receive it damaged you DO NOT have the right to a refund. My 02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutxo View Post
    yeah. Youre defending him. No biggie though. All I know is if this flies youre telling everyone on this forum that decent packaging isnt a sellers responsibilty. Apparently the chance ya take on this forum is dealing with honesty and responsibility.
    Packing is a seller's responsibility, obviously, because once they get paid, the item no longer belongs to them.

    Id shy away from any person in this thread that thinks this crap is okay. Pretty freakin shady.
    If that's a personal stab at me, you're completely wrong and 100% off base.




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    Quote Originally Posted by nutxo View Post
    I figured I would post here and get the forums opinion.
    Well, when you put it like that it sounds innocent enough I guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by nutxo View Post

    Id shy away from any person in this thread that thinks this crap is okay. Pretty freakin shady.
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    Whoa, now there is a shift. Please don't ask for people's opinions and then call them shady when they express a view that does not necessarily support your position.

    Beyond that, I am sorry the amp was busted up. My biggest problem is that it seemed like Faulkton was trying to look for a solution and you, quite frankly, sounded a little mouthy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Acizzle423 View Post
    And read my quote sir.


    I don't see how you justify poor packaging with "as-is". If that's the case then if you were to buy my sub and I just put it in a box and sent it to you, but "as-is" you DO NOT have the right to a refund. My 02.
    And read my reply above this one, sir.

    And I DID NOT justify lack of a quality packing job as "as-is"; more care should have been used when packing, but faulkton is not 100% at fault.

    And I'm done replying here. Faulkton could have packed better, but it's not 100% his fault. A UPS claim should be filed and the buyer should learn from this and not buy anything when a seller uses an "as-is" statement like faulkton did.

    This thread is premature and shouldn't have been brought out into the public until EVERY attempt to get this resolved was made. Seems like faulkton is still in the middle of working hard to get this resolved.




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