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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    hopefully things, will work out with out things getting too bad, or this turning into another bob/b issue.

    personally i think that geoff has all rights to ask for him to ship first, and for him to pay for the big 3 kit. especially considering it was made vehicle specific.

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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Quote Originally Posted by profoundwill View Post
    The sub was shipped in the same crystalmobile sound box that I received the sub in, this box was made for shipping this exact subwoofer. I have shipped plenty of subwoofers before and never had a problem. I thought the sub was d4 I never checked it which is my fualt, I thought they all were dual 4 ohm. As for the big three I told him what lengths I needed up front and he own his added 3-4 inches to each piece making them all too long, so is that really custom, not doing what I requested. Also the PPI amp is not mint and the 6.5's are scratched up.

    To make a long story short I offered to pay for him shipping the sub back to me and he refused to give me his paypal address to receive payment. In return of getting my sub I will ship all of his stuff back to him. It sounds like a set up to me, why not take my money for the shipping and send my sub back.


    I can tell you and I will put my rep on the line with this claim that he is not out to scam you man, I have delt with him personally on MANY occasions he is a honest and straight up guy.

    He has been contacting me about this sub for the last 3 day's I have seen the photos and the packing job the day he got it, Yes it might have been shipped in the factory packaging but you STILL have to renforce that with something as FedEx/UPS tosses that **** around like a red headed step child.

    Also that PPI A300 came from me and for its age it was MINT, I just sold the matching twin a300 on diyma and the one you got was in FAR better condition then the one I kept and that one was pretty **** nice too minus the paint discoloration on the side.

    Unless something happend to it in his possesion or yours I think you are reaching here on its condition and trying to bring him down too. As for the speakers I cannot comment on that cause I never saw those.



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    If he said they were 8/10 i assume the small scratches is the reasont hey were 8/10 and not 10/10 .. If the big 3 is a little long cut off a few inches.., and i dont know about you but in my setup OHM LOAD is pretty sfuckin important.. If they sent me d2 instead of d4 i would have to run it at .25 ohm .. lol.. i think either everything should be returned to the original owners at the expense fo will or will pays to have his sub shipped back to him and compensates ge off for the products eh recieved.. just my .02



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    I will be posting photos on Geoffs behalf in a few.



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    well, not my trade, but i can attest for geoff. doing anything shady here would be like taking a crap in his own living-room at dinner time. as for the not sending the paypal info to accept money, i wouldn't either, until a solid arrangement has been laid out, otherwise, accepting the money is accepting a not done deal, open for manipulation. as for the wire kit, well my opinion is that trying to re-sale cut wire can be like trying to sell an open condom, and already crimped connectors would be a used condom... if you can find a buyer for it, who has the same vehicle, that would make it easier, but i wouldn't hold up the deal waiting for a buyer. better to just pay the cost of the wire/connectors, and install, or sell it. sounds like you are on the right track already, and geoff is plenty trust-worthy to stay on the safe side of the deal and have everyone feel comfy about it..... /my $.02



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    The D2 coil that wants to be a D4!



    Pretty decent sized poc mark looks to be filled in with a sharpie?



    Large scuffs on the surround due to the packing.




    How the sub arrived to Geoff, no padding or foam just cartboard inserts.



    The PPI A300 as it sat in Geoffs hands, The warranty sticker was removed by me when I got them from the origninal owner to verify any blown fets since I couldnt hook them on on the spot. Since there is NO warranty on these anymore. I didnt care so I pulled it, it was coming off anyway.

    Both A300's work perfect, the guy I got them from NEVER USED THEM! he bought all brand new the a300's being floor models minus the PPI 2300AM that I got from him that was used for a month before being uninstalled and stored for 15 years along with 4 NIB Kicker A series Solobaric 12's.







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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Pictures didn't work.
    But sounds like Will should refund shipping costs etc because it's not even the right configuration! That's a no brainer.
    Sounds like a simple trade back for the mistake Will had (I don't see any mistakes by Geoff).
    And for the Big 3, you should pay him but in a fairly low amount.

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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Get those pics up man so y'all can sort this mess out.



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Sub doens't look that bad. Is it functional?



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vossy View Post
    Pictures didn't work.
    But sounds like Will should refund shipping costs etc because it's not even the right configuration! That's a no brainer.
    Sounds like a simple trade back for the mistake Will had (I don't see any mistakes by Geoff).
    And for the Big 3, you should pay him but in a fairly low amount.

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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Quote Originally Posted by supermaxx123 View Post
    Sub doens't look that bad. Is it functional?
    The sub has the wrong coils. Geoff is a good guy here.



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Geoff is an honest guy. I don't care if you shipped in the original packaging or not, if it didn't look to be secure enough you should have taken the time to go through and added in some extra stuff.




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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Let me chime in.

    As you guys probably know, Geoff and I don't have a very good past. I still haven't forgiven him, because he has yet to apologize in person. I still talk with him here, treat him like a human being. But I'm no friend of his.

    But like I would for anyone on this site, I stepped up to the plate when he asked for assistance claiming that he was probably going to get screwed/scammed. I took notes on everything he said, and then I PM's Profoundwill to get his side of the story. After hearing both, it was evidently Profoundwill's fault that he sent the wrong sub, poorly packaged, thus it was his responsibility to send all his stuff back to Geoff, pay for the big 3 kit, and pay for the sub to be shipped back to himself.

    Things went alright, he finally complied and decided to do what I said was right. I am, after all, approaching this from an unbiased perspective that, if anything, would be more biased to the aid of Profoundwill given the bad past experience I had with Geoff. But then he decided that he couldn't ship first for Geoff. I began to explain Geoff's legitimacy, and I even suggested he use me as a middle-man so that I would hold Geoff's stuff until Geoff sent the sub out. The conversation ended abruptly, and here we are now.

    We all know what needs to happen. Profoundwill needs to send Geoff the amp and speakers, pay for the big 3 kit and the shipping label for the sub, and Geoff needs to send the sub after everything arrives in the condition it left his house in. Until everything happens in that exact order, this thread will stay live. It's Profoundwill's fault, albeit an ignorant accident from the start, so there is no reason why Geoff should get burned from this.

    Profoundwill, it didn't have to come to this. I know that you never meant for this to happen. I also know why you didn't want the sub back, since now you will be set back shipping for your sub, the amp/speakers, and you will have a beat up sub with mechanical noise to fix. You screwed yourself over on this one, and whether or not you meant it doesn't change the fact that it is your responsibility to consume the consequences of your actions. What you did by arguing with Geoff and I over it is now also added a ruined reputation on the leading car audio website to the plate. It will not be easy, if even impossible to regain legitimacy here. If you are a good guy though, which I know you are, you will do what's right, put the past behind you, and start over fresh.

    It's a sad situation, really. I'm sorry that you are now out probably over $100, and will have a nearly blown sub. I'm also sorry that Geoff had to be put through this right before the competition that he missed out on last year for a similar reason iirc. This whole situation would have turned out a whole lot better if you wouldn't have argued and made excuses.



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    sounds like dude had a sub with noise and wanted to get rid of it. packed it shittily knowing it would be destroyed, hoping shipping company would eat it....



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    Re: Profoundwill, return my items.

    Quote Originally Posted by double deez View Post
    Geoff is an honest guy. I don't care if you shipped in the original packaging or not, if it didn't look to be secure enough you should have taken the time to go through and added in some extra stuff.
    I forgot to add this.

    Also, I can provide picture proof of the PM's Will and I exchanged



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