New AA SMD Woofer

[bose301s]

flat? I don't think so, not to mention many of them are mastered for the average person's listening devices, ie: headphones and crappy factory car stereo's, etc

not to say that there isn't a lot of music out there that is done in excellent quality and designed to be reproduced properly, but the majority of it isn't

afterall, how many people even have systems that could justify the term 'upgraded'? Not many, and the people producing music and concerned with record sales, etc, aren't concerned with making it sound good on a well tuned, rare, high quality system

I agree and it pisses me off. Listen to "The Wall" by Pink Floyd and you will get an amazingly mastered album that isn't using any of the tricks of boosted mids and treble and boosted bass to make people like it. It really pisses me off and makes me sad about the state of music today

The perfect example of this is the loudness war. Just reducing the quality of sound so people will buy it, such a sad state of affairs.

[Rashaddd]

I agree and it pisses me off. Listen to "The Wall" by Pink Floyd and you will get an amazingly mastered album that isn't using any of the tricks of boosted mids and treble and boosted bass to make people like it. It really pisses me off and makes me sad about the state of music today

The perfect example of this is the loudness war. Just reducing the quality of sound so people will buy it, such a sad state of affairs.

yup, money, commercialism, all that matters.

Art is lost in today's society

[bose301s]

yup, money, commercialism, all that matters.

Art is lost in today's society

Yup, it sadly is, screw commercialism, let's go to communism

[dcole18]

nick, im not even trying to get into this discussion but is the 3hp+ the only LMS driver you've ever played with?

[NDMstang65]

nick, im not even trying to get into this discussion but is the 3hp+ the only LMS driver you've ever played with?

Yes, was one of the first ones if not the very first one. I'm well aware the technology has changed since then (was 5 years ago at least)...if I recall correctly it was long before the patent process or anything had even went into play. I've probably got some old cad drawings on a hard drive back home somewhere of it.

Never played with the newer 4hp version of it, which fixed most of the 3hp+ versions flaws that I did not like at the time. (Or so I am told). I haven't messed with the 4hp based one...didn't feel the need to pay big money for something I was curious about

[dcole18]

thats what i was getting at... the 4hp version is far better imo... but to each his own

[Brassler07]

im gonna get 1..

and im not nut-hugging, pole-riding, sack-sitting, d1ck dancing, etc..

I just think it will be a monster

How is Ben Troupe's Yukon doing, man, and by that I mean, how is your Pontiac doing?

[bose301s]

thats what i was getting at... the 4hp version is far better imo... but to each his own

The Soundsplinter Rl-s is a 3hp+ LMS driver isn't it?

[dcole18]

The Soundsplinter Rl-s is a 3hp+ LMS driver isn't it?

yep

[bose301s]

yep

So those have some Le and other issues? Too bad because I really wanted to try one out at some point. I definitely want to try out a LMS driver, I want to hear how LMS sounds compared to XBL^2 and just how it sounds in general, Neil praises the LMS drivers highly.

[dcole18]

the 3hp+ has issues... (hence them requiring massive sealed boxes)... the 4hp+ was designed alot better


buuut i sill lub my lms4k when its in the proper enclosure

[bose301s]

the 3hp+ has issues... (hence them requiring massive sealed boxes)... the 4hp+ was designed alot better


buuut i sill lub my lms4k when its in the proper enclosure

Ah, ok. As of now there is no way I am going to get an LMS driver any time soon, lol.

[ngsm13]

Oh god...

nG

[seedubs1]

So those have some Le and other issues? Too bad because I really wanted to try one out at some point. I definitely want to try out a LMS driver, I want to hear how LMS sounds compared to XBL^2 and just how it sounds in general, Neil praises the LMS drivers highly.

That'd be why most people don't use them in their car. Most are used in the house, as a low end monster. I just wish the adire tumult was still being produced. I heard great things about using them in home audio.

[bose301s]

That'd be why most people don't use them in their car. Most are used in the house, as a low end monster. I just wish the adire tumult was still being produced. I heard great things about using them in home audio.

Well, also because it is a 3 ohm coil and it is hard to find a car amp that would drive them hard enough.