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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    i haz some of that... it works wonders

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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by NDMstang65 View Post
    Ok that's fine, But what part of "Linearity Motor Technology" is 100% indicative of a flat response curve? So with that being said take an accelerometer, put it on a Linear Motor System equipped sub-woofer. See how 'linear' it really is. Do you listen to how linear a BL curve sounds and presents itself? Or do you listen to the sound that the moving assembly reproduces through switching electrical energy of the magnetic assembly?

    Because it is the displacement of air...that creates the sound correct? Or are you talking in 100% regards to the addage of "Ok, it has a ruler flat BL "Curve" so therefore it must be linear in response throughout a given spectrum." ?

    I'm not totally sure in which way you are looking at this. The LMS technology does indeed have a flat BL curve. However, with the suspension setup, cone geometry and how the gap is set up...begs me to ask the question of just how linear is the moving assembly through a given entire stroke through a broad band white noise signal?

    It simply boils down to are you listening to the woofer paper that says it has a flat BL curve, and assuming that it yields a 100% Linear and +/- 1dB response?

    If so you can't do that, it does not work like that. If somebody has an LMS driver i'll show it to you as I have the accelerometers to show the alleged cone assembly..is not that 'linear' (taking the word for face value meaning 100% in a line), and does lead to cone break up and distortion, and does sway back and forth. (which you supposedly can not hear right since it is very linear and linearity is a direct correlation of zero distortion and zero peaks and zero valleys?)

    Again, put yourself in an anechoic chamber. I pluck a string right in front of you with a guitar and capture the acoustical energy going past your ears that you process with a microphone array. I then put a speaker that is 100% linear with respect to a BL curve in nature from 0-20Khz and replay the track (LMS for example), that does have a 'flat' response and is described as sounding 'dead'. I then put a speaker that is not 100% linear motor however it has a 100% "flat" (+/- 3dB) response from 0-20kHz. Which one is going to sound more realistic? The one that completely ignores the actual resonance of the body of the instrument and plays it 100% flat due to the BL curve that it has and it is designed to have. Or the one who takes note of hey I've got a resonance of the body of the instrument here that was 2.8dBa @ 124Hz..I need to play that.

    The second of the two is the most accurate of the original recording; Just because something has a "Linear Motor" does not mean that it has a flat response...or an exact response of the original recording. If there is a peak there and it does not have the motor to emphasize the peak, then what's going to happen? Its simply not going to be there correct?

    Or am I mistaken?

    Edit: You simply do not listen to flat BL curves in a car...or any environment. You do not listen to "flat" response curves..anywhere for that matter. Nothing is flat, no matter what environment you put it in, unless you equalize it...

    So with that said, unless you are at the concert...your not going to get a recording any more accurate then being there.



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    wow that right there just shows how much i dont know...... *confused*
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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Lol... it's not THAT hard to understand...

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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Rumor was that Thilo had bought back up all the patents that were sold in the auction (except one minor one). I was specifically told he purchased all the patents that included the LMS style baskets. I was also told AudioPulse sold all the patents, and Thilo purchased them all himself, personally, as a way to avoid bankruptcy for the company. I guess I need to flog my information source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 80INCHES View Post
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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by Mc_Hammer View Post
    *buy*
    what ever u got the piont
    now back on topic......the smd series subs looks sexy as fuk,,,and it turns me on


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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    looks good thats for sure but ill never buy one because its an internet boner
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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by 80INCHES View Post
    what ever u got the piont
    now back on topic......the smd series subs looks sexy as fuk,,,and it turns me on


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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    damn, now you got me lookn on ebay for a audiobahn 32" sub....lol
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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    do they have any?

    ill buy it if it's not too much

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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by Mc_Hammer View Post
    do they have any?

    ill buy it if it's not too much
    nah none that ive found

    someone was trying to sell me one of those clarion 32"s recentlly, but I cant find the link now.

    I think it would be a blast to do something like that in my corvette...something goofy At least that would be more motiviating and fun than a 21" or 18"
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    :thinks back to one of the TeamPSI's dsig quotes from back in the day:

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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    yeah... 18"s = too small these days

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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by 2000LaDe View Post
    wow that right there just shows how much i dont know...... *confused*
    What is basically boils down to is you can't believe everything that's on a piece of paper.

    Just because a sub has a flat BL curve on paper does NOT mean it will have a flat response in an environment like a home theater or vehicle.

    Many factors influence that, including vehicle resonance and enclosure specs/resonance.

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    Re: New AA SMD Woofer

    Quote Originally Posted by tommyk90 View Post
    What is basically boils down to is you can't believe everything that's on a piece of paper.

    Just because a sub has a flat BL curve on paper does NOT mean it will have a flat response in an environment like a home theater or vehicle.

    Many factors influence that, including vehicle resonance and enclosure specs/resonance.
    Exactly.... you make enough different types of boxes and put the same woofer in it, and put it in the same enviroment every time and you'll learn that shit quickly.
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