Pioneer or Alpine?

[Trey803]

Pioneer

[Rich B]

pioneer for the win if you ask me. i think in terms of SQ the Pioneer and Alpine are same level but the Pioneer has BBE and that owns MX.

My old Alpine (CDA-7941) has BBE processing.

The newer models dont?

[zSnb]

As i believe, the newer model Alpines use Media Expander.

[James Bang]

im personally would use alpine, mainly because it's what i'm use to and i've had good luck on all the alpine units i've owned. i'm also loving my w200 + h701 combo.

[Rich B]

As i believe, the newer model Alpines use Media Expander.

Yech!

Sounds like Alpine has stripped out too many features in trying to hit price points that can sell in big box retailers like Circuit City.

Thats a shame.

[DsrtJeeper]

I really don't get the BBE feature on my 780 HU. It seems to be another version of the loudness feature. Bass does seem to get tighter and the music just gets louder. Using BBE can introduce distortion pretty quickly to my 5-1/4" comps.

[bri487]

My old Alpine (CDA-7941) has BBE processing.

The newer models dont?

i think they just went back to bbe

[timmay14]

Personally for the money, you get more tuning abilty with the pioneer units, than the alpine's. Alpine's Bass Engine Pro tuning was good, but they don't offer it in any new HU's, only the DVA-9965, btw MSRP is $1600. You can get almost the same if not better tuning capability with a Pioneer DEH-P880PRS for $450. Just my two cents..

[zSnb]

BBE has two different options on the unit that i have. Comp and BMX. From what i notice, Comp tends to cut out some of the higher pitched sounds that some would consider to be too harsh on the ears while the BMX adds to those frequencies to make things seem slightly more detailed.

[lincolnls]

both are good, but i think pioneer edges out in the end.

i have the pioneer avh-5700 touch screen and i love it.

one of the best things about pioneer's higher end lines is that they seem to just keep making add-ons for them.

like on mine i have XM radio, sirius radio, navigation unit add on, an ipod adapter.

and there is a ton of new stuff for it that i want to get like they have a digital surround sound processor you can add on that has time alignment, dolby 5.1 it even has a cool bluetooth add on that lets you hook the bluetooth adapter to the rear of the headunit hidden away and control contacts dialling and other stuff right from the touchscreen, also has a vehihcale dynamics processor add on that can gicve you vital stat's on your car (tach, speed and other cool stuff), rear camera, and a few other A/V things

and even the newer stuff that they make for the avic line is backwards compatiable with the avh series units, so every time a new cool add on comes out you dont have to go out and buy a new H/U just to get the new options, whihc is a plus, kinda like the play station, they still allow you to play the older games on the newer stuff, thats a big selling point that your stuff wont be useless for hte new stuff, and it shows that they stand behind there stuff as they keep making new stuff for there old H/U's

im planning on getting the digital sound processor since it has optical input and the avh-5700 has a optical output, and i already have the center channel speaker so ill be in for a nice treat when i play movies in the car, then i'm gonna get headrest monitors for the rear passengers, so they can play play station 2 that i have in there

and then im gonna add a carputer and have mobile internet, I just got the cingular blackjack with 3G technology where i can tether it to the carputer and use it as a modem. when i tethered the blackjack up to my laptop to test the speed i was able to get download speeds a little over 1.2meg a second, and a little under 450kb upload speed, so its basically a portable DSl line in my car cant wait to get it all ready to go

[DsrtJeeper]

BBE has two different options on the unit that i have. Comp and BMX. From what i notice, Comp tends to cut out some of the higher pitched sounds that some would consider to be too harsh on the ears while the BMX adds to those frequencies to make things seem slightly more detailed.

I too have Comp/BMX but never believed it to have anything to do with the BBE function. BBE is described as a totally different function. ???