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    Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    Nice suprise when I got back from my trip today, waiting for me was my new IDQV3 12's and XS65 components! SWEET. Better bet you will get a full review on them once installed.

    I will start off with the IDQ's. Many of you know I have run IDMAX's in my show car for the last year or so. They were simply amazing! They were detailed, musical and could smash your face up into a huge smile output wise even sealed. To me, they were about as perfect as a 12 could get, and I have owned a lot of subs in my day.

    So why on earth did I sell them off? Eh... Well I just do stupid crap like that. What can I say haha. I am on the 4th deck, 3rd set of subs, 3 sets of amps and 2 processors later in the car which I have had not even 2 years haha. I like change. The new IDQ's are said to have some nuts and also sound amazing.. well plenty loud for me anyways, are more sq oriented and weigh almost 10lbs per driver less than the idmax's. Now 20lbs does not sound like a lot of weight savings but when combined with the new enclosure I built that saved 34lbs, I just cut the @ss end weight of the car down by 54lbs. That is equal to approximatley 9 gallons of gasoline which varies from 5.8-6.5lbs per gallon. That is almost a full tank of gas difference in my ride! And when your into performance, that really is a huge decrease in weight.

    Another aspect of the IDQ I liked was that I can totally take the sub apart for whatever reason I want. Weather it is to repair it if I happen to nuke one, want to paint the basket to match the car or whatever reason. Just a very cool design.

    On to the IDQ. Build quality is great. The new composite basket saves weight, is functional and looks good. The basket has a good amount of venting for the coil as well. The magnet is much larger in diameter than the idmax but more shallow to focus the magnetic field more rather than try to spread it along the gap like an SPL driver. Overall the driver is very shallow compared to the evil tower of doom that is the idmax which is almost as tall as it is wide, so install of the IDQ is much more forgiving if your doing an infloor install like I have done. The max was so tall I almost could not fit it!

    Grabbing the cone like I am not supposed to, but do anyways with drivers The suspension feels much softer than the max and is very linear tension wise. Definitly a different animal in this aspect.

    Gasp, what is this? No vented pole? No way... Next thought is.. ok they had to do somthing to vent under the cap or I am goint to blow the cap right off of it. And they did just that in a much more functional way. Down around the spider are large holes in the cone itself. All these holes add up to a larger volume of airflow capability than just a single pole vent. So I thought to myself, wonder how the mechanical noise is on these as I cannot remember having a sub without a pole vent. I ran out to the car and hooked one up freeair and ran 15-25hz tones and got the driver moving. To my suprise I did not hear much at all from the sub mechanically while I was hammering away freeair. And wow could that cone move with nothing to compliment the suspension. More than I thought it would anyways and never hit bottom. I think if I pushed it a tad harder freeair she could hit bottom as there is no bump plate and it looks to have enough suspension to let the coil travel that far with ease. So the pole vent mystery was solved.

    Ok enough of my babble, on with the pics....









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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    Next up, the XS65's.

    I have searched for a LONG time for somthing to replace my aura mr6.1's. They are getting old but still perform excellent, much better than 95% of what is available today that I have found. Personally I have always like the way lightweight paper cones sound for midrange and the new XS65's feature what looks sort of like paper but is called rohashell or somthing like that. Looks very lightweight. The motor is a neo design just like my old auras as well but it looks like it uses a large neo disk? Not sure of that is the actual magnet or of it uses long verticle strips of neo like the auras. Only time will tell if they perform as good, personally I think they will perform better after hearing them on a sound board for a short time!

    The phase plug to my suprise is tooled out of solid aluminum and is heavy as heck. Thought it would be abs plastic. You can unscrew the phase plug and screw in a beefcake solid aluminum adaptor to mount the tweet braxial which is GREAT for a lot of installs. A cool feature but does not do anything functionally, is that you can feed the wire from the tweet straight down through the pole and out the side to a set of terminals which are designed only for tweeter hookup. Almost thought I had a dual coil mid for a moment until I saw no leads attached haha. Makes install easy doing it this way.

    The basket on the xs65 mid is made from the same composite material that the IDQ baskets are made from. The little mids have a good amount of under spider venting from how the baskets were designed as well. Overall the fit and finish of the mids is top notch.

    The surround of the mid I found quite interesting. It is a very tall thin rubber surround. If you have ever seen ID's surrounds on there subs, picture a micro version of it. A thin surround like this can drastically increase cone area.

    Suspension wise the mid is very very stiff feeling as well as the cone. I did not move it much as I want the drivers to break in equally, just pushed each a little I promise haha! Feel wise I think I will need to run them for quite a while for break in before doing any serious tuning.

    The crossovers are very nice as well and feature a lot of adjustability. Personally I will have no need for them as they will be run active but the functionality is there and they look good enough to show off in a fancy install. A look inside shows aircore inductors and unknown poly caps with id logos on them.

    The tweet is an oddity. It is a 28mm dome which is slightly larger than the old standard 25mm dome. Would love to see detailed T/s on the dome as well response graph but none was supplied. It is a nice coated silk dome with a neo motor. Fit an finish of the dome is top notch just like the mid. It is housed in a composite case that is threaded. You screw on what looks to be a small waveguide for the tweet which also serves as a press in mount. Not sure if the mini waveguide has any function as small as it is but would love to measure it with and without the guide. You can press the tweeter grill into the mini waveguide to protect it. I think it kicks arse that I have the ability to run the tweet topless with this dome as the difference in sound a tweet produces with a grill vs. no grill is huge.. Nice touch.

    This next week the doors are being glassed to house the component set so I will be able to write a review on the drivers. I will have no idea how they will perform with the stock crossover but I imagine they will do just fine.

    On to the pics!











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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    Nice new toys you got! Makes me miss my IDMAX real bad
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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    very nice equipment, and good review
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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    Wow, very nice stuff indeed! Do you write for a living or something? Just messing...............

    I was looking at getting an IDMax myself as for some reason they were being sold like hotcakes in the classifieds section and well I didn't feel like paying over 300 smacks for a used sub or what the called new in the box. I just couldn't seem to do it, even if it was one of my favorite subs I have heard. That and like you said is like the tower of doom and don't think it would have fit in my box. My CVX plugged right in and sounds good, but man I wouldn't mind trying out one of those ID Q's. Nice looking, a lot nicer than the model before.

    Cant wait to hear a full review on both. Have fun and enjoy.

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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    wow iam jelous....
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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    haha my grammer & spelling are much to horrible to write for a living Will let you guys know what I think. I will be installing and testing the subs tommorow as they are a drop in for the max's. Will give a first impression then.

    The IDQ is also about 1/2 the price of a max along with the size and weight thing. So it will appeal to a much larger crowd of SQ junkies that like to get loud every now and again.
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    Very nice equipment, you will surely be pleased. Good luck and enjoy.
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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    Quote Originally Posted by desertheat View Post
    haha my grammer & spelling are much to horrible to write for a living Will let you guys know what I think. I will be installing and testing the subs tommorow as they are a drop in for the max's. Will give a first impression then.

    The IDQ is also about 1/2 the price of a max along with the size and weight thing. So it will appeal to a much larger crowd of SQ junkies that like to get loud every now and again.
    What did you end up buying those ID's for? Just curious as I may get something else down the road, as I change a lot too. I am happy with my CVX for now. I just know me and isn't always about getting louder.

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    Birthday present from the wife so not sure the cost.... Think it was around $240ea retail but then again I do not pay retail for anything so cannot comment.
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    Just finished my system diagram. Simplicity is bliss for me haha. Will stick it up top in the 2nd post.
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    Re: Just Got In Some New Image Dynamics Sickness! Yeah Baby!

    How did you do that graph? Pretty neato! Wow, I said Neato!

    Awesome Equipment!

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    Well I do not write for a living but part of my job is creating technical drawings that are easy to understand *LOL* They are not hard to make, just time consuming to make them look decent.
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    That looks great man! And to you for the birthday gift from the wife!
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